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Jan 30, 2026, 02:5601/30/26
Jan 30, 2026, 03:10(edited)
01/22/21
10

I looked at Farbstoff, but it doesn't have the content I need. RSL Helper and HH Website are just tools that also don't contain the information I need. You're again talking about mythical people who have all the information, but you're citing a content creator who doesn't provide that information. You're also offering me tools, but that's a completely different conversation. Why all this nonsense if there's no answer to my question, only assertions about people I can't find? Join whom?


It's like me saying you can find a gold bar at certain corporations, but they're unlikely to give it to you, and you're unlikely to find them. What is your comment about?


I'm asking for specifics. If there aren't any, there's no point in arguing. I can only use the private information I have, which is what I used to base my calculations on. I repeat, if there are specifics, please add them to the chat. This empty talk won't resolve the issue. 

Jan 30, 2026, 03:0501/30/26
01/22/21
10
WileyMan

I am not a data miner or a CC.  I am just a highly engaged player.  I am also not a Plarium Apologist and have had a couple of my own Plarium Conspiracy moments.

You purport to have watched a lot of Content Creator videos as part of your "analysis".  If that is the case, then either you aren't paying attention or you don't understand what they are saying.  The big CCs periodically gain access to data that has been data-mined straight out of the game, with and without Plarium's official consent.  That is how Farbstoff is able to keep RSL Helper up-to-date, and how the HH Website is able to populate the data for the Raid Stages Tool.  Furthermore, users of RSL Helper and the HH Optimizer give permission to aggregate their user data, which gives both of those entities immense statistical resources of their own.  

If what you are insinuating is even remotely true, they would likely already know it, or have the resources to investigate it.  If you care enough, go join their Discords, but you won't find them on the Forum.

You seem to be misunderstanding the main question.

1) I watched a bunch of videos of openings, calculated, and got a strange result indicating that some champions appear more often.

2) I'd like to find a fact-based refutation here, or data that I could also calculate and obtain a neutral result.

3) If my result repeats, I simply don't see the point in using the casino, because at this point, it's no longer enjoyable for me.

I don't make conspiracy theories, but I can draw my own conclusions based on the data

Jan 30, 2026, 03:4601/30/26
12/19/19
7115

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dthorne04Moderator
Jan 30, 2026, 04:1301/30/26
12/30/20
8143
Trips

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a penny for your thoughts :)

at least ones that won't get you banned

Jan 30, 2026, 09:2801/30/26
Jan 30, 2026, 09:35(edited)
01/22/21
10

Now I know what you look like) 

If you consider the people who made the calculations, even if they're incorrect, to be conspiracy theorists, you don't understand what that word means. My advice to you is to research what conspiracy theorists are, otherwise you look like a schoolchild who just learned a new word.

You've turned out to be a big conspiracy theorist yourself. Keep telling stories about bloggers and the people you know who have all the information. 

Jan 30, 2026, 09:4001/30/26
Jan 30, 2026, 09:42(edited)
01/22/21
10

Anyway, here's my selfie so you can show it to everyone and tell them I have a huge grasshopper behind my back.

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jan 30, 2026, 19:0801/30/26
06/24/19
4270
evfilbox

Anyway, here's my selfie so you can show it to everyone and tell them I have a huge grasshopper behind my back.

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I appreciates the domed flat earth in the background.  No discernible ice wall though so it must be fake. 

Jan 31, 2026, 16:5701/31/26
14

When a gaming platform impliments a "mercy system", because their RNG is so low, then you know they are ripping people off. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jan 31, 2026, 20:3701/31/26
06/24/19
4270
Deleted

When a gaming platform impliments a "mercy system", because their RNG is so low, then you know they are ripping people off. 

So it would be better to not have a mercy system? 

Feb 1, 2026, 01:3202/01/26
14
ShortOnSkillz

So it would be better to not have a mercy system? 

It would be better for a mercy system to not be necessary. That's the entire point of my comment. Changing the RNG to allow for better odds would not dilute the game at all. It's just a scam to sell shards. 

Feb 19, 2026, 16:5802/19/26
Feb 19, 2026, 17:39(edited)
02/01/26
2

Nothing but rares from the last 6 ancient shards and a rare from void. Your rate is f'n horrible. No wonder people leave. I won't be spending like that anymore.

Feb 20, 2026, 03:4602/20/26
10/17/22
133

Pulling shards particularly sacred was exciting until mid game. After that for me it's the least interesting part of playing raid.currently have 42 sacred that I couldn't give a toss about because 80% of those will just be Crap.

There are far more interesting things to do in the game than getting more legendary champs, i much prefer playing around trying to improve the rubbish I've accumulated. 

Feb 25, 2026, 21:0202/25/26
02/01/26
2
Ant

Pulling shards particularly sacred was exciting until mid game. After that for me it's the least interesting part of playing raid.currently have 42 sacred that I couldn't give a toss about because 80% of those will just be Crap.

There are far more interesting things to do in the game than getting more legendary champs, i much prefer playing around trying to improve the rubbish I've accumulated. 

There's a reason us lowbie new players can't move up past silver arena brackets. I have one single legendary that every single person gets for free just logging in. 99 percent of the bought shards are crappy rares and the few epics just can't compete at gold.

Feb 25, 2026, 22:5302/25/26
12/19/19
7115
dthorne04

a penny for your thoughts :)

at least ones that won't get you banned

Just saw this. No idea what tin foil theory i was laughing it.

But my thoughts are the % work exactly as stated. Play the long game and u get champs proportional to the expenditure (time and/or money).  

@wiley will say my "luck" is on the high end of the variance spectrum.   And he might be right 😀


ShortOnSkillzModerator
Feb 26, 2026, 16:3102/26/26
06/24/19
4270
Trips

Just saw this. No idea what tin foil theory i was laughing it.

But my thoughts are the % work exactly as stated. Play the long game and u get champs proportional to the expenditure (time and/or money).  

@wiley will say my "luck" is on the high end of the variance spectrum.   And he might be right 😀


I dont know about quantity but youre surely in the 95th percentile on quality you snake.  🤣

Feb 26, 2026, 17:3802/26/26
12/19/19
7115
ShortOnSkillz

I dont know about quantity but youre surely in the 95th percentile on quality you snake.  🤣

Quantity is aided by knowing how to play efficiently/optimally.  I'd say im in that top percentile of knowledge unfortunately mid at implementation. Laziness is a bitch.

My mythical "luck" on obtaining quality is definitely good as that is still small sample stuff.

For souls, my strategy to go against the grain and use coins mostly on stones outside of Marius tier champs means I open a bunch more stones and increase my luck that way.   

I'd wager the average Joe wastes 95% on stupid soul purchases. 

Yolo on stones I'm convinced is the smart play.  2x or guaranteed events only of course.


Feb 27, 2026, 22:5602/27/26
12/06/25
1

yes indeed, the random in this game is the worst I have ever encountered) out of the large number of epic heroes I have 12 legendary stones, duplicates of the juryman, the seneschal, and others... for some reason 2 valkyries do not drop out to people, but various slags do) legendary champions drop out rarely and 80 percent of the time they will be bad legendary champions.

Feb 28, 2026, 16:1702/28/26
10/23/25
47
Orion 95

yes indeed, the random in this game is the worst I have ever encountered) out of the large number of epic heroes I have 12 legendary stones, duplicates of the juryman, the seneschal, and others... for some reason 2 valkyries do not drop out to people, but various slags do) legendary champions drop out rarely and 80 percent of the time they will be bad legendary champions.

Agreed. I don't have many good legendary champs but somehow I pulled duplicates on 2 of them. Last thing I need as a new comer is duplicates when my champ bank is slim and yup I've recieved a few worthless legendary champs as well for hundredsof dollars. Makes it hard to even want to give this game another dollar. Very upsetting. 

Plarium to keep the whales/big spenders/pros happy keeps adding more n more legendary champs making the odds for us new comers even worse for getting the best legendary champs that they have and we need. 

Chance rates are to low imo but as said they aren't looking to change it they make to much money from it. But they could atleast make duplicate odds even less for us new comers so we can get a better variety first. Once we have 100 legos like the pros then duplicates will be more likely and then needed. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 1, 2026, 01:0803/01/26
06/24/19
4270
Trips

Quantity is aided by knowing how to play efficiently/optimally.  I'd say im in that top percentile of knowledge unfortunately mid at implementation. Laziness is a bitch.

My mythical "luck" on obtaining quality is definitely good as that is still small sample stuff.

For souls, my strategy to go against the grain and use coins mostly on stones outside of Marius tier champs means I open a bunch more stones and increase my luck that way.   

I'd wager the average Joe wastes 95% on stupid soul purchases. 

Yolo on stones I'm convinced is the smart play.  2x or guaranteed events only of course.


Not getting an itchy finger definitely helps.  Im with you on the stones though.  Saving essence takes far too long.