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Jan 28, 2026, 07:56Yesterday
01/22/21
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unfair acquisition of champions

In 250 days, I've been getting absolutely useless legendary heroes—Rorik, Genjin, Pixniel, Shirimaina, Dili, and Grogak—as well as free champions like Alisa and Dilianna. The final blow was getting a duplicate of Genjin and that damn Razen you can craft for free!! What nonsense! What if I keep getting Sunwukong and other free Legions and useless heroes?

I've gotten some decent heroes like Elva, Jingwon, and Vixwell, but in comparison, there are far more useless heroes and duplicates. Why even add Razen to the pool of available heroes? It's killing my desire to play! Or just fix these useless heroes already.


Not to mention the multipliers for the required heroes are a drop in the bucket. There are so many heroes there that even x25 doesn't feel like a thing anymore. While four years ago, as a newbie, you could get heroes by saving up resources, now, even if you've saved up, getting the hero you need is practically impossible. As a result, the veterans already have everything, they continue to earn content and become stronger, while newbies can't escape the swamp. Take even the Assassin's Coalition: high-level players earn all the rewards very easily, while newbies simply can't reach them. As a result, newbies are stuck in the same place, while high-level players become incredibly powerful.

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Jan 28, 2026, 10:06Yesterday
10/12/21
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*shrug* They can't all be winners. I'm on my 5th year now and my champ vault probably has 40-50 legends in it that I leveled up to 50 and put away. Occationally, Plarium will dust off an old or bad champ and revamp it to try to make them playable. Plus, a dup Genjin means you can use them as champian guardians and give your other champs a boost. Or, if you want, you can grind your 2nd one and get 500 coins to buy a new champ. Personally, the first option is better IMHO.

You know what will really grind your gears? Getting a bad void champ. Uggghhhh... there are some out there that are real stinkers. Nothing quite like seeing the yellow explosion only to see that they have a 1.5 rating... =P Although in game rating can be wrong or have a rating before they were fixed.

My first Mythical was Mezomel. Her in game rating is 4.1 for arena and then 3 and less everywhere else. I thought she was garbage until I started to play around with her. I'd say her arena rating should be at least 4.8 and she's great for Nether Spider and some other areas as well. She was a lemon that I turned into lemonade.

Jan 28, 2026, 23:51Yesterday
12/16/21
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The good news is they said at some point this year they're going to bring back previous fusion champs, so people who missed out on, for instance, gnut or pythion will have a chance to get them

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jan 28, 2026, 23:57Yesterday
06/24/19
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MooredRat


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The good news is they said at some point this year they're going to bring back previous fusion champs, so people who missed out on, for instance, gnut or pythion will have a chance to get them

We hope anyway.  No idea what ones or how they'll pick them. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jan 28, 2026, 23:57Yesterday
06/24/19
4086
hybrithe

*shrug* They can't all be winners. I'm on my 5th year now and my champ vault probably has 40-50 legends in it that I leveled up to 50 and put away. Occationally, Plarium will dust off an old or bad champ and revamp it to try to make them playable. Plus, a dup Genjin means you can use them as champian guardians and give your other champs a boost. Or, if you want, you can grind your 2nd one and get 500 coins to buy a new champ. Personally, the first option is better IMHO.

You know what will really grind your gears? Getting a bad void champ. Uggghhhh... there are some out there that are real stinkers. Nothing quite like seeing the yellow explosion only to see that they have a 1.5 rating... =P Although in game rating can be wrong or have a rating before they were fixed.

My first Mythical was Mezomel. Her in game rating is 4.1 for arena and then 3 and less everywhere else. I thought she was garbage until I started to play around with her. I'd say her arena rating should be at least 4.8 and she's great for Nether Spider and some other areas as well. She was a lemon that I turned into lemonade.

Just gets worse as you progress too.  End game even if you pull a new champ odds are you'll have no actual use for them. 

Jan 29, 2026, 00:166 hours
01/31/20
2119
hybrithe

*shrug* They can't all be winners. I'm on my 5th year now and my champ vault probably has 40-50 legends in it that I leveled up to 50 and put away. Occationally, Plarium will dust off an old or bad champ and revamp it to try to make them playable. Plus, a dup Genjin means you can use them as champian guardians and give your other champs a boost. Or, if you want, you can grind your 2nd one and get 500 coins to buy a new champ. Personally, the first option is better IMHO.

You know what will really grind your gears? Getting a bad void champ. Uggghhhh... there are some out there that are real stinkers. Nothing quite like seeing the yellow explosion only to see that they have a 1.5 rating... =P Although in game rating can be wrong or have a rating before they were fixed.

My first Mythical was Mezomel. Her in game rating is 4.1 for arena and then 3 and less everywhere else. I thought she was garbage until I started to play around with her. I'd say her arena rating should be at least 4.8 and she's great for Nether Spider and some other areas as well. She was a lemon that I turned into lemonade.

Even worse than a bad void lego is a dupe of a bad void lego....

I was pulling voids on a Marichka boost a while back, and hit gold.  I was excited for about 2 seconds, but out popped a dupe of Ursuga.  I don't even use my first Ursuga. For a void lego, she is desperately in need of a buff.

Jan 29, 2026, 00:216 hours
Jan 29, 2026, 05:55(edited)
01/31/20
2119

Lizards were crazy for me on pulling useless dupes: 2 Rhazin, 2 Skull Lord, 4 Roxam, 3 Dracomorph....

For the longest time, the only Lizard I used anywhere outside of Faction Wars was Pythion. Then I pulled Sulfuryion, so now there are two.      

Jan 29, 2026, 05:121 hour
01/22/21
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hybrithe

*shrug* They can't all be winners. I'm on my 5th year now and my champ vault probably has 40-50 legends in it that I leveled up to 50 and put away. Occationally, Plarium will dust off an old or bad champ and revamp it to try to make them playable. Plus, a dup Genjin means you can use them as champian guardians and give your other champs a boost. Or, if you want, you can grind your 2nd one and get 500 coins to buy a new champ. Personally, the first option is better IMHO.

You know what will really grind your gears? Getting a bad void champ. Uggghhhh... there are some out there that are real stinkers. Nothing quite like seeing the yellow explosion only to see that they have a 1.5 rating... =P Although in game rating can be wrong or have a rating before they were fixed.

My first Mythical was Mezomel. Her in game rating is 4.1 for arena and then 3 and less everywhere else. I thought she was garbage until I started to play around with her. I'd say her arena rating should be at least 4.8 and she's great for Nether Spider and some other areas as well. She was a lemon that I turned into lemonade.

Yes, I understand, that's why they play for me too, but at their best. But it feels like the odds of getting bad heroes and free ones are much higher. I even calculated how many free heroes there are and the odds of getting three free champions in a row (like I did), plus duplicate Razen and Genjin. It's a very slim chance, so I think the chances of getting decent champions are lower. I've watched many bloggers and their discoveries – most often, the same ones appear, including Alisa, Dillian, and the drops are very similar. This kind of result can only happen if the odds are unequal.

Jan 29, 2026, 05:161 hour
Jan 29, 2026, 05:20(edited)
01/22/21
2

I statistically calculated the successful discoveries of bloggers (I studied more than 100 discoveries, 10-20 sacred fragments each) and, on the other hand, calculated the number of good heroes and the probability of obtaining them based on calculations. The numbers showed that there is a strong deviation. That's why I came to the conclusion about the unfair acquisition of heroes, both from my experience and from the experience of others. I take into account the effect that we can only notice bad discoveries, but in my conclusion I used only the obtained numbers.

Jan 29, 2026, 06:0832 minutes
01/31/20
2119
evfilbox

I statistically calculated the successful discoveries of bloggers (I studied more than 100 discoveries, 10-20 sacred fragments each) and, on the other hand, calculated the number of good heroes and the probability of obtaining them based on calculations. The numbers showed that there is a strong deviation. That's why I came to the conclusion about the unfair acquisition of heroes, both from my experience and from the experience of others. I take into account the effect that we can only notice bad discoveries, but in my conclusion I used only the obtained numbers.

If you are seriously suggesting that Plarium has set the odds of pulling bad/old/free/fusion Legos higher than the odds of pulling new/good/meta Legos, then you'd best come with some serious statistical analysis including data from the data-miners that look behind Palrium's curtain.  Otherwise, you are just gonna be dismissed as a member of the Tin Foil Hat Brigade.