I don't often read here and I have never  Posted here before and unlikely to again

We have seen this over and over again in PTOF

Coiners Rule if you are not a coiner then so be it you die !

Obviously Coiners are very Important to Plarium that's all that matters other players well you take pot luck ! 

When you have a 100,000 ships coming at you plus 100s of Dreadnaughts as a non coiner you have little hope  no matter how hard you work

and to have that come at you over and over well ?? What's left , what choice do you have .

However don't get me wrong my gripe is not with Coiners its with Plarium for allowing such Imbalances  and encouraging it !!!

Our BH is at a state of war . With Hanse another bunch of coiners and typical bullies Stand over Merchants ! A real bunch of Thugs though not all in their BH  are of that Ilk , some of them are enjoying discussions with our members but the ones that are those thugs couldn't play a tactical game if their lives depended on it  .

Put them on a equal footing and you will out play them and over run them every time

However  Plarium doesn't give a continental about Balance why should they ?????

 If Plarium was .serious about balance they would bring  bring back the disintegration rule if  your haven did not produce enough Rum to satisfy the number of troops you had . Did you ever wonder why they stopped that ?? LOL

Anyway we play within our means  . We harass we annoy we do all in our Power to be a pain in the proverbial .

That's all we can do but our crew are enjoying it . We don't give a continental about the point system hahaha

Every morning Hanse  awakes to more attack notices and every day we are in their faces and we have no intention, at this stage of stopping or going away  .

So Plarium  what do you want ?? Only a game where coiners Play ?? Oops silly question LOL

Plariums ideal world !!

But hey without us who would the coiners have to show how "mucho and powerful they are ?" ( though not all coiners are of that ilk there are exceptions though they are few and far between )

If we where to get paid in Rubies for participation our  BH would be miles ahead  since our war began we have had 100 % participation everyday at least we have  Hanse that much to thank them for.

Your doing a great JOB Plarium Keep it UP !!!

I just wonder how much longer players will put up with this shite ?

Garjon

You picked a fight with bar far the most powerful Brotherhood, in Pirates Bay.

Hanse

Wisdom obviously went out with last year’s Christmas tree.

Good Luck

Sorry just a slight correction :) We didn't pick the fight !

They did as I said nothing but a bunch of Thugs

We are a middle sized B H  and have never had issues like this before just so you understand they wiped out our Bastion level 9

I thin k

They took it down by using a 50000 Jugs 50000 SOls  only way they could prior to that they had been beaten back every time

But they weren't happy with that then they proceeded to continue attacks and reduce it to level 5 . If there was any type of spirit in the game then they ignored it

So we fight we are not going to be dictated too by a bunch of Bullies and thugs even in a computer game .

We are doing our best to keep them annoyed so they don't think about doing it too someone else .

Navigator said:

Wow, this thread starts to give me a clear picture of why some BHs hv the upper hand for sure.  But, doesnt this mean tht certain BHs who are "on the outside" so to speak, but high in the rankings, could themselves do a massive alliance to take down Sorci, Rual, HC, and their cabal?  Where r the BH leaders for those obvious powerful BHs, mine being one of them, why arent they banding together?  Since every No 1, No 2, or No 3 ranked BH has been taken down hard in the past 6 months, isnt it time for Sorci to get whacked?  Hello ? 

I have no idea how many Brotherhoods are in The Alliance of Peace

However for me, if the put there egos to one side, joined up into say 2 or 3 brotherhoods, and put as much time into playing the game, as they do spamming and talking rubbish in parrots, they might have a few ideas about the tournaments and such.

There is some good players spread out in there, and I am sure there is a lot of players up for a good fight, with no nonsense.

anyways~~~~

Hello dear fellas,

I read so much nonsense here - e.g. we dealing with Rual 

I can just let that stay uncommented...

But some things written here had to be answered:

Garjon said:

Sorry just a slight correction :) We didn't pick the fight !

They did as I said nothing but a bunch of Thugs

We are a middle sized B H  and have never had issues like this before just so you understand they wiped out our Bastion level 9

I thin k

They took it down by using a 50000 Jugs 50000 SOls  only way they could prior to that they had been beaten back every time

But they weren't happy with that then they proceeded to continue attacks and reduce it to level 5 . If there was any type of spirit in the game then they ignored it

So we fight we are not going to be dictated too by a bunch of Bullies and thugs even in a computer game .

We are doing our best to keep them annoyed so they don't think about doing it too someone else .

Garjon, you got that totally wrong and it shows me that your leader is not telling the truth to you guys...

It was members of your brotherhood that had attacked our havens unprovoked - we responded and warned your leader.

We then attacked your bastion during an event FOR POINTS ONLY... 

We did not get beaten; these first attacks were for our members to collect the minimum point for the event - I finished it then with 50k juggs.

After that I personally send a letter to Jongar to explain our actions  and told him that if the attacks by your guys on our smaller members dont stop we would come back everyday and make your bastion level 5 again.

He laughed me in the face and told that he doesnt care about losses and he doesnt care about loosing his bastion, he told me that he wanted war and we just accepted. THAT is how it was - so dont spread the word Hanse was the aggressor - it was the other way around.

I even reached out to  advicers to inform them about their leaders words...they also did not listen.

Your leadership wrestled with the wrong brotherhood - 

we do not destroy others for no reason but if we are attacked and in this case exp. been asked to do it...

Attalar said:

After that I personally send a letter to Jongar to explain our actions  and told him that if the attacks by your guys on our smaller members dont stop we would come back everyday and make your bastion level 5 again.

He laughed me in the face and told that he doesnt care about losses and he doesnt care about loosing his bastion, he told me that he wanted war and we just accepted. THAT is how it was - so dont spread the word Hanse was the agressor - it was the other way around.

I even reached out to all your advicers to inform them about their leaders words...they also did not listen.

So as usual we have one of the Trouble makers in pirates Bay, linked to The Alliance of Peace, Lying to his members, having an ego the size of the moon, then when they get beaten up, complaining in the forum about being bullied, and about Honest Players wishing to play the game spending money on their entertainment.

Grow some hair on your manhood Brethren AOP!

Thumbs down to you.

You guys do realize Hanse is easy to deal with. Leave them alone they leave you alone. For a big BH to have a simplistic motto like that its pretty fair. 

Having briefly tangled with them, can say from experience they are pretty reasonable. To each their own. 

IMO, Presidios are a vanity show. They show some area as "yours", so you get to feel mighty when that area is big. Not unlike obsession that many men have with the size of something else. ;-)

Okay you guys really are seriously delusional

Attalar you are full of it mate seems you cant help yourself

I saw the attack notices I saw how many times you were repulsed till you sent your MIGHTY FLEET , some people do have problems with size LOL  .

 I then know we sent nukes against your BH and you said as Jon shared the mail if you don't stop Nuking your BH you  will destroy our Bastion . So you did

Don't try making excuses and sounding like the aggrieved Party

If any one in our BH was attacking your members you should have communicated it to our leader . You didn't .

Plain and simple mate you are what you are don't try and disown it . You have little or no respect within many Bhs in the game as a individual player  

As a player you want to take me on , Limit the amount of ships you have lol as I said I am not a coiner and don't intend to be that's why Plarium loves you and your BH LOL

Oh and special note for  Nikita "sorry to burst your Bubble too little one"  The Brethren is not a member of the Alliance of peace though we do know players within their midst as we also know other players in many other BHS just have a look at our Diplomacy screen if you doubt what I say :)

PS oh and as for not caring about loosing his Bastion ???? Why do you think Jon is so pis sed lol

He doesn't care about the point score that for sure how could you against Hanse ??? Seriously bring back the Decay Law and we will see how Mighty Hans is :)

If they can maintain their Fleets with that in place Fair enough but Id seriously doubt it lol

Dearest Garjon,

I wont start an open discussion here about who is right or not.

Somehow we (and others) think it is the other way around.

Just two things:

"If any one in our BH was attacking your members you should have communicated it to our leader . You didn't ."

I did. I told him that the attacks on your bastion by our guys were the answer. Dont hold me for granted if your mighty leader doesnt share ALL his mails - LOL

"I saw the attack notices I saw how many times you were repulsed till you sent your MIGHTY FLEET , some people do have problems with size LOL ."

They were doing just the minimum for event point.

If you do have the reports: study them. You wont fight a huge fleet there. Minimum point only for our guys. Our main target was another one at that time.

And you wont find ME there...

When I attack a bastion, it falls...

IF we are bullies - how smart is it, to attack a bully who has warned you doing so when you are not capable of fightig him...?

Go ahead, continue your spamming attacks, we dont care - if you feel good about it. 

In Serbia we have a saying - Do NOT play with a Bear  

Nightmare said:

In Serbia we have a saying - Do NOT play with a Bear  

twinkle said:

Well you could always do as the others have done. 20 BHs have gone past the forbidden level 14. 

HC - rual

EURU - rual

Rual - rual

Sorciverdi - rual

Pilgrim Slayers - deal?

Children of the Sea - deal(protected by rual)

Hanse - deal?

Navy Seal Fleet - deal?

Dragon Fire - deal?

Pirates United - deal?

Fluch der 7 - deal?

Pirates Paradise - deal? probably

Piraterie Francaise - deal? probably

Filibusta - deal? 

Leyendas Piratas - deal?

vaincre ou mourir - deal? probable

Death Squadron - deal? 

The Pirate Horde - deal? good chance

INSELRATTEN - deal? maybe

Stortebeckers Erben - deal?

5 of you are controlled by our glorious ruler shiv. What about the rest, what did you have to agree to do to keep your level 15+ bastion with or without presidios?

if nothing more some of us have our names , and who are you ?

obviously another ''no one''  who hide behind just created alt to be able to talk and ask stupid questions

who want a piece of EURU/Rual/Hell Cats/Sorci family knows where to find us

Well you could always do as the others have done. 20 BHs have gone past the forbidden level 14. 

HC - rual

EURU - rual

Rual - rual

Sorciverdi - rual

Pilgrim Slayers - deal?

Children of the Sea - deal(protected by rual)

Hanse - deal?

Navy Seal Fleet - deal?

Dragon Fire - deal?

Pirates United - deal?

Fluch der 7 - deal?

Pirates Paradise - deal? probably

Piraterie Francaise - deal? probably

Filibusta - deal? 

Leyendas Piratas - deal?

vaincre ou mourir - deal? probable

Death Squadron - deal? 

The Pirate Horde - deal? good chance

INSELRATTEN - deal? maybe

Stortebeckers Erben - deal?

5 of you are controlled by our glorious ruler shiv. What about the rest, what did you have to agree to do to keep your level 15+ bastion with or without presidios?

Hello all...

It is becoming increasingly clear that the presence of bullies on this game are working [almost effortlessly] to try and ruin this game for every player regardless of size or level for that matter.

First, there is what I call a concerted effort to make sure that smaller BHs NEVER are allowed to raise the level of their Bastion.  Why game managers permit this is quite beyond me.  What is needed, is level controls.  As a BH [regardless of size] raises it's BH to say, 10 from level 5, once at 10 it should be allow it lock in place.  The same process for level 15, allow it to lock in to 15.  No BH should be allowed to completely take down any BH [or keep them down as some cases be] from the level that they achieved.

Now, don't tell me Plarium, that you don't know who these bullies are?  Look at the behavior of the Pirate Horde [as example] and it stands out clearly.  How about the Hell Cats, or EURU, or RuAL ... just to toss out some-examples.  
 

In the real world of the 17th - 18th century the pirates banded together to fight the Spanish.  Not each other...

Captain James T. Kirk, Enterprise 1701-A, All The Kings Men BH

Years ago, on the now deleted Kabam forum, I wrote a long post on how useless Presidios are, with a list of suggestions to make them more interesting. Nothing ever happened and they are equally useless today as they were then.

IMO, Presidios are a vanity show. They show some area as "yours", so you get to feel mighty when that area is big. Not unlike obsession that many men have with the size of something else. ;-)

Given that there is nothing really worth fighting (Fireships, charts, and whirlpools - IMO - made haven hits completely uninteresting, treasure islands are wastes of units, targets only give useless relics,...), Presidios are also a nice taunt to get hit where your power is concentrated, for those who want to fight. Those who don't want that can easily play Farmville by simply spending down and turtling (or upgrading their harbours with etchings), without really losing anything important in the game.

One possible advantage of Presidios is that they put your BH higher in the list of BHs, making it more likely for you to get more and better new members.