turbomaster74 said:

I am the Chief of UNITED LEGION and a Nords Moderator. And of course a special thanks to our intelligence officer ;-)

This is so funny, how you are acting so proud. Aren't Moderators supposed to follow the Plarium TOS? I think it's time to come clean and tell us. Do you, forcefull, kitsune and novastorm have alts in other clans? I have none and never did, of course. You can answer honestly... mods should be trusted to play by the rules, right? 

??? I have not hit your hold nor any Obs. And i am in a clan that does not hold any Obs - and thats the way we want it. I have seen your messages to others in screenshots that are all over the internet lol. I see your fictions written here. Of course you would project upon others :-) you are a BAD fiction writer lol

Quite funny how the same people cheering on the likes of pipo and scorpdog when they were taking obs down in 1 shot are now saying that they are ruining the game.

Fact is, Malice and Vanguard were built on the back of these 2 "coiners", yes others worked very hard but are we honestly saying that without these 2 people, Malice/Vanguard would have achieved all they have in the game?

Every clan who gets anywhere in the game has what is referred to as a "hammer", SRS had SilverLord, Drifters have Rak, Uni have Bag of Hurt... Why was it ok for pipo and scorp to do what they did when in malice and vanguard and now its not ok?

I have not complained about the coining. But while Pipo and Scorp were a big part, their backs are not what built us. They were just what gave us the crazy hits. It was our organization amongst eachother that built us. Our ability to rally and wipe other peoples coiners, when clans had not yet figured out how to play smart.

Look, please try not to make a mistake and blame Pipo2 for what happened. The ‘mate’ was just playing within game rules frame setup. And if you allow an example, try to imagine a human society (and every gaming community can be considered a reflection on basic society principles) in which, by defined rules (laws), one can do everything one desires as long as he/she pays a corresponding fee for their actions. In other words, theft, rape, murder is absolutely legit as long one has money to pay for it. Now, don’t go and make a mistake and call upon of morality of each individual from that society to refrain themselves from such harmful activities. Individual morality was never the sound building block of society, and therefore we do have rules (law) in the first place.

Finally, we all are here because we love this game’s concept, its art, playability and social interactions we have build within it, but I’m afraid this kind of unbalance, allowed by game rules would eventually destroy it.

because at the time, when Malice and SRS and Vanguard and Drifters - when these clans where built and getting names built up for them selves, there was no obelisk, defense wasn't as what we have now, 

nothing is wrong with what Pipo did, it's a combat game right? but how can anyone out there compete with that?

and then call it at that? 

Pip did what he did to show is @ss and did a great job at it, i have nothing against Pipo, hell i wish i had his credit card for one day

But nobody on that server has a chance against him, not when him alone can take *2* NOT 1 but *2* heavy defended Obelisk!!! that we intentionally we took out of our other Ob's and built those 2 to be well defended, 

You are not getting what we are saying here, we have no beef UNI they did an awesome job working as a "team"

we have no beef against Vanguard for working as a "team" and every other clan out there for there work in trying to take them down

as they worked as a "team" 

I am getting what you are saying, you aren't getting what I am saying.

There was a time when Pipo took 1 ob in 1 shot and Scorp took another in 1 shot, I may be mistaken but I believe the obelisks were drifters... everyone was happy and saying good job when this happened. 

I am just tying to understand why it is different now? Why was it ok for the wallets to win then and it isn't ok now?

Ideally I would like the game to be more balanced but the fact is it isn't, and we all choose to play knowing so

You are mistaken about the OB's they were not Drifters, I remember the event. Just like when Pipo hit us, I thought it was amazing to see, but I do not remember being proud of it and I did oppose many of them. I also said constantly Pipo was in danger of destroying the game even when with us..did I not?

BeMoreDog said:

I am getting what you are saying, you aren't getting what I am saying.

There was a time when Pipo took 1 ob in 1 shot and Scorp took another in 1 shot, I may be mistaken but I believe the obelisks were drifters... everyone was happy and saying good job when this happened. 

I am just tying to understand why it is different now? Why was it ok for the wallets to win then and it isn't ok now?

Ideally I would like the game to be more balanced but the fact is it isn't, and we all choose to play knowing so

This is a example what i mean....

you think this is okay???

Pip is on a war of himself, when he accomplishes his goals what makes you think he wont turn on any of the rest of the clans out there?

The guy likes combat he likes the control of killing and having that complete control, he has shown already to us he will

go to great measures to get what he wants.....

So in all means have fun when he has nothing else of Malice and SOL to hit, 

lets hope the giant doesnt get bored lol

the point is Pip is contentiously doing it over and over, Scorpdog didn't continuously hit out of spite of what offense he had 

I mean at this point any more i really don't care what Pip hits he is going to do it anyway, ruin the game for all i care, eventually that is what is going to happen, he is going to keep going,

This thread wasn't to rant about pipo but to show the team work of the map wars in nords done by all the clans,

Uni, had some great attacks going so did Vanguard, i rather see these attacks in here then a guy that has ego issues just saying

fififo said:

again people divert around my point... The large percentage of people were ok with 1 shot hits back then... Still, nobody answers the question of why was it ok then and not now. I did say I may be mistaken regarding it being Drifters but I was there for the event, 2 obelisks were taken down in quick succession, 1 by pipo and 1 by Scorpdog. 

I have yet to hear someone say Scorp was wrong in doing it! My point is, if you are going to look upon what he did in outrage, then at least be fair about it and say others who did the same were wrong too. Is that not fair??

I also said others did contribute as far as malice and vanguard are concerned, what I am saying is, the achievements gained would not have been so high had scorp and pipo not been a part of it.

Get off your alt when posting BeMore.

And I ask again..did I not warn and state Pipo was in danger of destroying the game? There is no diversion and there is no hypocrisy.We are both talking around the same time frame. You are saying we said nothing, that is untrue. 

angelique said:

http://prntscr.com/95a1gp

I am looking at this screenshot.  In this View it shows what the leaders sees when the Obelisk is hit.  It looks like somebody was missing some troops from the obelisk hit.  I wonder where they were.  Possible bunkered in Catacombs.

http://prntscr.com/961dde

http://prntscr.com/961e1m

It might be called balancing our defense by having my troops in another OB:) Nice try though.

How desperate are you guys? Now trying to offer Solstice an alliance if they turn against us? Setup an alliance of VAN/UNI/5th & Sol? Sad really, we get turned on because we would not turn on Solstice and now you try to get Solstice to turn on us? Which they basically told you all to F*** OFF!

This is not Balancing  this is withdraw

http://prntscr.com/95a1gp

That kite needs to be flew somewhere else for being the leading defender.  It looks like Malice clan was used for Meadran's bidding.  Sorry Malice underlings.  If your leader wont risk the same.  I don't know what to tell you.

turbomaster74 said:

angelique said:

http://prntscr.com/95a1gp

I am looking at this screenshot.  In this View it shows what the leaders sees when the Obelisk is hit.  It looks like somebody was missing some troops from the obelisk hit.  I wonder where they were.  Possible bunkered in Catacombs.

Look at the XP gained.  Thats the proof.

desperate much Turbo??

i mean really?????

You seems to have your boxers in a knott for malice leaders,

of all players, im surprised it's you!!!!!

 unless you are the voice for the other clans?

I mean we found out Meg is also *STORM of Vanguard

which claims she hasn't hit anyone and isn't on a side lol

You guys clearly need to have a meeting, get your stories worked together,

so when you come in the forum you don't look desperate for *ATTENTION*

I think a good part of the issue (and it's been mentioned several times in this thread), that the game is unbalanced...and that's all due to Plarium (AGAIN) and their scheme in getting more money.

As Plarium is a business for making money by using different..Various tactics .....this is smart on their end.

If anything, Us as Players ...all we have to do (all of us) is not Spend any  more money on Anything. That's how to balance the game, don't spend a dime... But we will anyway.

Agreed Starless.