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May 13, 2026, 22:354 days
10/25/25
9
slobbyknobby

All games now are manipulated by AI? So that just makes it acceptable? Also is this what mobile game players deal with regularly?

Never said it was acceptable, I'm actually on your side of this. I think your anger is in the way of understanding what I'm saying. 

May 14, 2026, 11:583 days
12/23/23
16
Velocity

Hello, we’ve read your message.

We understand you’re very frustrated after a long set of matches like this. However, match outcomes are not “forced” in the way described. The system does not target individual players or predetermine wins and losses.

What you’re experiencing is a combination of matchmaking, team composition, bots, and performance differences between matches, which can sometimes create streaks that feel very one-sided, especially during rank transitions.

We’re not ignoring your feedback, and your reports and concerns about matchmaking balance and bot behaviour have already been passed on to the team.

Thanks for deleting my comment and covering up my response. You had been avoiding me for 2 weeks and I flagged you down multiple times to answer important question.

I wrote on this post already I know those all losses aren't a coincidence. If it was, my allied bots all being outperformed by the worst performing enemy would be a statistical anomaly. Instead it's more than 90% of my recent losses. If I'm not being forced to lose then why are bots deliberately getting in my way and pushing me into danger.

I've in years past recorded forced losses. Multiple youtubers have uploaded videos where they're clearly being forced to lose. I know it can happen. You've done it before. It looked exactly like how it's shown here. The losses aren't forced. You're lying

You may be telling the truth it doesn't target individual players, or maybe not I need to gather more information. But it definitely does pre-determine a losing side. Telling me it doesn't is clearly a flat out lie. 

May 14, 2026, 21:373 days
12/23/23
16
Velocity

Hello, we’ve read your message.

We understand you’re very frustrated after a long set of matches like this. However, match outcomes are not “forced” in the way described. The system does not target individual players or predetermine wins and losses.

What you’re experiencing is a combination of matchmaking, team composition, bots, and performance differences between matches, which can sometimes create streaks that feel very one-sided, especially during rank transitions.

We’re not ignoring your feedback, and your reports and concerns about matchmaking balance and bot behaviour have already been passed on to the team.

You said the outcomes aren't forced. I call you a liar and I repeated what I said in my post to tell you I already explained how the matches are indeed forced. And you ban me for making "public accusations of staff lying".  It's not an accusation if it's demonstrably true.

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Pictured above is a match from a tournament today, and all the hangars of every player involved. Notice how all the stronger players are on one side while all the weaker players are on another?

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And this is from yesterday. Another match all my allied bots are performing worse than the worst performing bot on the enemy team.

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AND IN THIS ONE WHERE ONE OF MY ALLIED BOTS DID LITERALLY NOTHING

YOU WANNA TELL ME THAT THIS ISN'T PROGRAMMED TO HAPPEN?! YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THAT?! I HAVE EYE'S AND I'M NOT STUPID! I DIDN'T ACCUSE YOU OF LYING! YOU JUST LIED!

SO WHY AM I BEING FORCED TO LOSE? AND WHY ARE YOU LYING ABOUT IT?! AND CAN YOU FREAKING STOP?!

I'd like to have multi-perspect match replays so I can see just how this team is cheating us with the AI.

May 15, 2026, 01:003 days
12/23/23
16
Velocity

Hello, we’ve read your message.

We understand you’re very frustrated after a long set of matches like this. However, match outcomes are not “forced” in the way described. The system does not target individual players or predetermine wins and losses.

What you’re experiencing is a combination of matchmaking, team composition, bots, and performance differences between matches, which can sometimes create streaks that feel very one-sided, especially during rank transitions.

We’re not ignoring your feedback, and your reports and concerns about matchmaking balance and bot behaviour have already been passed on to the team.

My best mech is 4 stars legendary. I keep getting matched against players with 6 star legendary who can kill all my mechs with 1 ability too. You mean to tell ne I'm not being targeted to lose. You're straight LYING

May 15, 2026, 02:353 days
12/23/23
16
Velocity

Hello, we’ve read your message.

We understand you’re very frustrated after a long set of matches like this. However, match outcomes are not “forced” in the way described. The system does not target individual players or predetermine wins and losses.

What you’re experiencing is a combination of matchmaking, team composition, bots, and performance differences between matches, which can sometimes create streaks that feel very one-sided, especially during rank transitions.

We’re not ignoring your feedback, and your reports and concerns about matchmaking balance and bot behaviour have already been passed on to the team.

This is a 3 year old youtube video. Like mixfant gaming says there's no rea for 1 side to be so much worse off with AI than another. In this video the enemy AI even cheated and spawned at a beacon that wasn't yet captured. Proving that if the game determines you should lose it will make you. https://youtu.be/hJmv0Qw5ReY?si=K4ysC28bFhiu4eYc

And the battle from this video, the issue that I keep repeating. All his ally bots performed worse than the worst performing bots on the enemy team.

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His AI are clearly sabotaging you can watch them do it in the battle and again that shouldn't be happening, especially not with any amount of regularity. But it does BECAUSE YOU FORCE THE LOSSES! THE EVIDENCE IS LITERALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY EYES! IT'S RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOURS

May 15, 2026, 08:062 days
01/23/26
180

im sure there is no programmed AI to make you lose, they are just crap at their jobs, the code does not work as intended, thats why we get random bots with random weapons making unfair matchmaking and spawning from non captured points. If they were good we would see the evidence then we could consider that they managed to program a great AI that makes you lose, but i think its far above their skillset

May 15, 2026, 14:142 days
04/27/26
9
Velocity

Hello, we’ve read your message.

We understand you’re very frustrated after a long set of matches like this. However, match outcomes are not “forced” in the way described. The system does not target individual players or predetermine wins and losses.

What you’re experiencing is a combination of matchmaking, team composition, bots, and performance differences between matches, which can sometimes create streaks that feel very one-sided, especially during rank transitions.

We’re not ignoring your feedback, and your reports and concerns about matchmaking balance and bot behaviour have already been passed on to the team.

ROFL... Right...! Bots aren't being used to manupliate the matches outcome? My last 5v5 match... 

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May 15, 2026, 14:192 days
02/04/24
26
ROFL!

ROFL... Right...! Bots aren't being used to manupliate the matches outcome? My last 5v5 match... 

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Still better than any of the matches I had

May 15, 2026, 14:212 days
02/04/24
26
Papa

im sure there is no programmed AI to make you lose, they are just crap at their jobs, the code does not work as intended, thats why we get random bots with random weapons making unfair matchmaking and spawning from non captured points. If they were good we would see the evidence then we could consider that they managed to program a great AI that makes you lose, but i think its far above their skillset

Then can you tell me how they made it so that frequently every AI on one team performs worse than the worst performing AI on the other?

May 15, 2026, 15:282 days
May 15, 2026, 18:47(edited)
01/23/26
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(1) we as humans tend to notice the bad and ignore the good.. we pay attention to bad things but take good things as given.

(2) when one team is losing to another it scores worse, thats the reason you lost actually, you made less kills. If you have less total kills, then divide them into 5 and each player will kill less than each enemy player... so 29 in screenshot the losing team vs 32 kills on winning team.. so thats extra 3 kills to spread between winners team bots.. and given that human made most kills in losing team make bots look even worse. Is he expecting every bot to play at his level? then he would have 5-6 kills and bots would take 5-6..If one player outperforms everyone by so much, the bots look bad.. they cant materialize many kills from thin air.. so in reality the team difference is just 3 kills.. but we see it as bots on winning team were twice better because of how numbers were spread.. etc.  its purely visuals and our perception.  

(3) they cant do basic things right, you think they can do something advanced properly? if there was godlike AI thingy and it was coded as crappy as everything else we would notice some huge spike that was very noticable and irrational (as example, you receive a-coins, they appear immediately at the top bar, then they get reduced back for 1 second, then they appear on your account top bar again, with such coding even at interface there is no chance they have super advanced system to make you lose. They are inconsistant and sloppy, tournaments counts your games as 0/8 played but hangar showdown cpunts it as 10/10 games remaining.. one goes forward, other goes backward.. and its just basic graphical interface.. there is no chance they can do poor things and then great things in contrast...)

You can blame them yes.. matchmaking sux yes but there is nothing that makes you lose on purpose. 

May 15, 2026, 15:552 days
02/04/24
26
Papa

(1) we as humans tend to notice the bad and ignore the good.. we pay attention to bad things but take good things as given.

(2) when one team is losing to another it scores worse, thats the reason you lost actually, you made less kills. If you have less total kills, then divide them into 5 and each player will kill less than each enemy player... so 29 in screenshot the losing team vs 32 kills on winning team.. so thats extra 3 kills to spread between winners team bots.. and given that human made most kills in losing team make bots look even worse. Is he expecting every bot to play at his level? then he would have 5-6 kills and bots would take 5-6..If one player outperforms everyone by so much, the bots look bad.. they cant materialize many kills from thin air.. so in reality the team difference is just 3 kills.. but we see it as bots on winning team were twice better because of how numbers were spread.. etc.  its purely visuals and our perception.  

(3) they cant do basic things right, you think they can do something advanced properly? if there was godlike AI thingy and it was coded as crappy as everything else we would notice some huge spike that was very noticable and irrational (as example, you receive a-coins, they appear immediately at the top bar, then they get reduced back for 1 second, then they appear on your account top bar again, with such coding even at interface there is no chance they have super advanced system to make you lose. They are inconsistant and sloppy, tournaments counts your games as 0/8 played but hangar showdown cpunts it as 10/10 games remaining.. one goes forward, other goes backward.. and its just basic graphical interface.. there is no chance they can do poor things and then great things in contrast...)

You can blame them yes.. matchmaking sux yes but there is nothing that makes you lose on purpose. 

Here's the thing though in 85-90% of those matches I got the most kills. My bots got less kills.

My bots also aren't just getting less kills they're doing less damage. So much less that my best allied bots are getting less than the worst opposing bots.

I don't happen to take my wins as given. Or maybe they are given unjustly just like the losses. Because I sometimes win but get less kills than my opponent and then look and all my allied bots performed better than the best performing bot on the enemy team.

You want to tell me with this happening with such consistency you don't view that as the least bit suspicious?

And as for the comments about the interface, you know they have different people working on that vs the AI, right?

May 15, 2026, 18:272 days
01/23/26
180
MythDeath

Here's the thing though in 85-90% of those matches I got the most kills. My bots got less kills.

My bots also aren't just getting less kills they're doing less damage. So much less that my best allied bots are getting less than the worst opposing bots.

I don't happen to take my wins as given. Or maybe they are given unjustly just like the losses. Because I sometimes win but get less kills than my opponent and then look and all my allied bots performed better than the best performing bot on the enemy team.

You want to tell me with this happening with such consistency you don't view that as the least bit suspicious?

And as for the comments about the interface, you know they have different people working on that vs the AI, right?

it might be suspicious at times, but rather i would question the system that does the matchmaking and gives out the weapons to both teams bots.. i dont think anything happens in the end or middle of the game

if there is a force that makes everyone lose then tell me why it avoids a lot of people? look this guy: 92971814 


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why did magical AI allow him to win 4433 games out of 4532? 99% win rate? 

May 15, 2026, 18:492 days
02/04/24
26
Papa

it might be suspicious at times, but rather i would question the system that does the matchmaking and gives out the weapons to both teams bots.. i dont think anything happens in the end or middle of the game

if there is a force that makes everyone lose then tell me why it avoids a lot of people? look this guy: 92971814 


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why did magical AI allow him to win 4433 games out of 4532? 99% win rate? 

Most people with those win rates are SP tankers. Try as the bots might they can't make that person lose. The game cheats but so do they.

And yeah maybe it's bots having worse weapons. That means the matchmaker gave one side all worse bots still. That is forcing players to lose. But even then it would be hard to believe it's coincidental that they all just so happened to get less points.

I have witnessed manipulation directly in the past watching AIs deliberately avoiding capturing an important beacon while it's free. Sometimes I watched them dawdle and do nothing. All while the enemy AI were capturing all the beacons and killing everything. I've watched allied AIs turn their backs to enemy AI with a loaded magazine to die to them. I've watched allied AI rush out into the open to all get killed in quick succession by an enemy AI.

Now if you look at a bot they act properly but it seems they still try and sabotage behind your back. I could probably see each and every exact manipulation if we had multiple perspective match replays. But I know the manipulation is happening because there's proof of it in the past and none of the shit that's happening now adds up to feeling any different.

May 15, 2026, 18:522 days
01/23/26
180

you overthinking it by imagining that bots are too smart, they are unfixable retards thats why they dont capture empty control points, i seen it too, its very annoying.. 

May 15, 2026, 20:132 days
02/13/21
143
MythDeath

Most people with those win rates are SP tankers. Try as the bots might they can't make that person lose. The game cheats but so do they.

And yeah maybe it's bots having worse weapons. That means the matchmaker gave one side all worse bots still. That is forcing players to lose. But even then it would be hard to believe it's coincidental that they all just so happened to get less points.

I have witnessed manipulation directly in the past watching AIs deliberately avoiding capturing an important beacon while it's free. Sometimes I watched them dawdle and do nothing. All while the enemy AI were capturing all the beacons and killing everything. I've watched allied AIs turn their backs to enemy AI with a loaded magazine to die to them. I've watched allied AI rush out into the open to all get killed in quick succession by an enemy AI.

Now if you look at a bot they act properly but it seems they still try and sabotage behind your back. I could probably see each and every exact manipulation if we had multiple perspective match replays. But I know the manipulation is happening because there's proof of it in the past and none of the shit that's happening now adds up to feeling any different.

And between that and bots a lot of people are loosing a lot and some can't get dailys or events done

May 16, 2026, 23:04Yesterday
02/04/24
26
Papa

you overthinking it by imagining that bots are too smart, they are unfixable retards thats why they dont capture empty control points, i seen it too, its very annoying.. 

But the bots do capture control points. It's just sometimes the bots on 1 side would deliberately avoid it. That's what I said. I get what you're trying to say, but if you were right I could just make up for them stupid bots not capturing control points by doing so myself. But if I did they would get re-captured by enemy AI, while allied AI continued to deliberately avoid them. It's programmed