Shocker they did something that makes this game suck more. Plarium does nothing but make this game 

Me too i have lots of issues in mech arena,my radar is bugged i don't see enemy mechs in my radar.even with no radarplayruim 0ls fix this :(.

Do you feel supreme? Just because your brain needs to spend to be in the top 500? The support I gave in PLARIUM, you can't even dream of it in 2 lives. Obviously in another PLARIUM game, here I don't see the point, the game is poorly managed, and spending to be in the top 500, WHE', I really don't care. A game should demonstrate the skills of the person, not of the latest weapon... or of the newly arrived mech, obviously more powerful. no friend, being in the top 500 just because you support WISELY (?)... ...you lack the sense of pure fun.. it's more fun to steal a Ferrari, with a less expensive car, than with a car of equal value, that's the real fun, you don't need to spend crazy amounts of money to be better, but in MECH ARENA, you are constantly analyzed by the AI, and you can see it on your screen when this happens... and it penalizes you if you are better than those who spend, because spending does not mean having skill.. how does it penalize you? by giving you higher level opponents and STRONGER BOTS.. you've been playing for a short time friend and being in the top 500 means nothing at all, because I've killed thousands of the top 500. and it makes me laugh to see them fall on the intellectual level when they find someone who uses his brain, and not his muscles, i.e. THE SUPREME WEAPON... . for this you are monitored and penalized when necessary...

I have to say that the game is getting more and more mediocre and stupid with each passing day. No balance yet. Weapons are now impossible, mechs more powerful than any weapon, too many paralyzing weapons, too many paralyzing mechs, too many weapons that all by themselves make a real dormitory now, I remember the time they made the ray that planted itself in the walls, pierced them and flushed out anyone who was hiding... BUT THEN THEY MADE ALL WEAPONS AND MECHAS, THAT CAN QUIETLY STAY HIDDEN in cover OR safe on the ROOFS... AND WIN... laughable stuff... Today 1 game and I left, a real disaster as always, no desire to play 2 games, the usual hangar manipulators, AI, BOTs, and all the garbage that follows, tournaments that make you fall asleep, the usual prizes from here we have an overflowing inventory, nothing real new when it comes to the game itself. HANGAR S. I've played it 3 times since it came out, and I'll never get back in, and I don't care if they fix it, also because the game is a mess, I don't think they'll be able to do anything else, because if they've been incapable up until now, I don't expect anything else. There's no such thing as new stuff. Because it's always the same. All things considered, it was nice at first, I spent the right amount on it. But it didn't last long, luckily for me, I saved a lot of money.

Sejujurnya saya memiliki masalah dengan sistem match dalam permainan, meskipun ini sudah beberapa Minggu lalu, tapi saya masih terus memikirkan hal itu, dimana lawan saya semuanya menggunakan mod ada robot sedangkan exp saya sendiri bahkan tidak memenuhi syarat memasang mod, saya minta setidaknya perbaiki match dalam permainan DNA permudah mendapat sumber daya seperti credit atau koin-A, karena mengumpulkannya sangat sulit. Ketika membuka 1 peti pertempuran hanya mendapat Antra 1 hingga 5 koin-A, bahkan juga sering tidak mendapatkannya sama sekali. Itu saja dari saya, terimakasih 🙏🙏

Ok lets please not make an offtopic.. I came here to forum to express exactly very similar thoughts as an author of this topic and I came to forum and not feedback or support page because: 

I want to hear back from creators how they are going to deal with this or what plans they have to deal with this issue? 

About me: 

1) I have not read any forum guidances what I am supposed to post here and what not, otherwise I would put a lot of screenshots at least.. I would also express it in a lot harsher words, because the problem is not light, it is rediculous to the point when I'm considering to change game.

2) I am only playing for about 2 months, I really really loved the first month of the game, the game is a great success (if you can keep players it has great future), I spent about 3$ on the game which I had accumulated in google points so it was really free to me, but I would not mind to spend money on a game if I felt it was worth it, usually I don't and prefer not to just to keep competition fair to everyone, I like hard and difficult games and challenges. I am happy to play against paying people, this is why game exists, to get money from players, if there was no paying players there would be no game. I reached 3rd season league division and I never lowered my hangar until yesterday, so I have experience of both playing with full hangar and a lowered one.

3) I totally don't care if new players are given legendary bots, pilots, guns, they would still be harmless with them, it's when such bots are in expert hands it breaks balance, and unfortunately I'm not sure why these giveaways are necessary at all, new players don't care about it much, I didn't, but old players creating 5 accounts just to get these bots into their hangars.. not sure why you would want that? To show that your player base is increasing to investors? Makes sense..

The HUGE issue with lowered hangars:

1) It makes new players quit. I wanted to play this game with my very young son and I created a second account for it, so we both start in same division with same low level guns etc. He likes to go together, heal each other etc.. And in 10th division with 10k health robots and basic guns we were often meeting enemies from 1st seasonal league with 70k health Dreadnoughts and quashers that we could spend whole round hitting them and they would still kill us. When you just start a game in 10th division you dont want to be destroyed right when your robot appears on map, or it will highly demotivate you. He is not playing this game anymore it was enough to humiliate him. And as a father this is a -1 point for your game, because eventually I will want to play together with him, and it will not be this game as the damage is done. No matter how much I love the game (for now).

2) It forces old player to lower hangars to be competititve. I tried to lower my hangar as advised in chat and it did work, I got weaker enemies, so lowering hangars does take effect, anyone can do it. The problem exists and proven. 

I didn't do it unfair, I put low level guns and low level robots, no epic or legendary mechs or weapons. Even bots were stronger than me, but I enjoyed the game much more, I will be honest, even occasionally meeting dreadnaughts with quashers it was more fun to me. 

The problem is everyone or 99% does it unfair, they put 4 low level bots with 2 stars and then one robot like Dreadnought or Citadel or Nomad and they go humilitate kids in 10th divisions to the point of no willing to play. They go to tournaments and achieve 45000 points when it would take me to achieve same if I played 48 hours non-stop with normal hangar. My achievement was about 4000 to take 6th place or so in grandmaster league. And the top2 players with 45k and 25k points were in top500 of the game and in their hangars of course was a dreadnought or nomad with rediculous weapons where other bots would be 2 stars 8 energy. So if I ever want to be competitive with them I would need to do the same, I don't want to, I refuse it, I am not going to play like this, I would use swear words If I could, I feel very very unhappy about it, I just can not use right words for it as I will get banned. The point is when I reach 1st seasonal division and if I ever want to go to top500 I would have to play with 1 bot.. I will not, so I will lose interest in the game in about a month and leave. Basically to summ up.. you should not allow divisions to cross each other to solve this.. 10th division should never meet a top500 player. Does it only make sense to me?

Other obvious issues in the game.

1) The Bots. For about a month I played happily thinking Im playing with real enemies, until I switched to 10th division with my kid and realised the names are the same just different guns... I get 8 bots in 5v5 games and they also tick to stay in team.. what the hell... I want to play with real people.

a) savants etc. in 3rd seasonal division they get armed to the latest fashion or to say to the teeth.. geminis , savants, etc.. you just get a huge mess on the map as it all gets fired from all directions on the map.. that is just personal preference, but maybe lowering guided weapons for bots would make sense.. Weirdly I seen bot with mortars walking back and forth, doing nothing, I assume maybe they were not given instructions how to use them.. :) but artillery and guided on bots makes game a bit messy..

b) basically too many bots... really too many.. with better guns than me but thats fine.. they also run forward and push you out like you never on their way.. in short bots spoil experience. 1 or 2 is fine but not 80% of the 5v5.. and no ticking for them to stay in team PLEASE

Potential ideas.

rooms with NO bots with higher waiting times I would rather have 2-3 minutes waiting time and play with real humans but there is no such waiting room.. 

torunaments with no epic or legedary weapons or robots. This would show a true skill of players.. the paying people could still have more legendary implants etc.. I assume no harm with some people having stronger shotguns.. 

replace disconnected players with bots. if player disconnected it could get -50 score for the game and he would be replaced with bot after 20-30 seconds of inactivity. that is where bots would be really useful. because I'm sure if there was a room with no bots this would be the issue with players not playing.. 

It has never 

And no reply from developers :) 

The guy with weaker hangar just killed 35 and never died two games in a row, well at least with this power he is not going against 10th devision, so respects to him

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They will never change all i do is loose now, most matches are bots or whales with there drop hanger accounts its not fun anymore 

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I have never heard so much whining and complaining in my life..sore losers... seriously? Take your lose (L) and move on. Work on your team ranking up of mechs and weapons . I dont get it if you lose everyone is cheating but if you win never hear anything .. feels like im surrounded by immature kids... dude put your big boy pants on and get your team better...I dotn care if I lose friends over this dont need friends that piss and whine every time they lose... enough...if you dont like it leave no one is holding you hostage.. all I got to say

Sincerely 

I.C. REDRUM

I agree. I have been playing this game for many years now. It used to be fun, and I fell in love with the game. The game is now ruined for me. What made it fun was that every mech and weapon had its strengths and weaknesses, so you had to find the right combination and strategy to win, but now every mech has shields and health upgrades.

In games, players were matched with players of similar squad strength, but now the match combination is terrible, which has ruined my experience. I had many matches where I was against opponents who were totally out of my league, and I was outmatched.

I would have to start looking for other similar games that are still fair and fun.

Redrum, you don't have any friends to lose anyway, I would reply to you properly, but this topic is not about you.. 

I am trying to prevent this 5 mech hangar game to become a 1 mech hangar game, if developer are not going to do something about it, everyone will put 1 strong mech and 4 weak ones and the whole battle will be about 1 mech. Why bother with 5 bots hangar? We are not stupid, we are trying to keep it honest and fun, but the rules will eventually lead to 1 mech hangars, lost players, and lost may be lost forever. 

It's difficult to balance things, but something needs to be done, 

1) I would suggest to do the matchup based only on the strongest robot, but this is not going to fix anything, as example why its not going to fix anything, here you go -> the new player installs game it likes to spend, it buys 100$ mech and a 100$ weapon and a pilot and mods.. and he faces experts in 1st seasonal league with same robots and guns get annihilated like a bug in no time, quits and never spends again. It's a loss of money for the game. This will not work out well. 

Lets be honest, the game exists only because developers can earn money, they are not charity, we are just a player base for money spenders, we are needed because without us there will be no money spenders too, developers need to find ways to satisfy both. Clearly, ideal would be for a new player who spends money to get some satisfaction of the guns.. or he will not spend, and clearly for non spenders it would be good to not fight against super armed to the teeth enemies where they can not even scratch them, how to achieve that harmony and happines? Well why don't we all talk about it?

2) In theory the divisions system should work very well, you earn your way up, you are considered stronger if you are winning.. doesnt matter if you have gemini or longarms or autocannons, if you are winning then you are with equals, it's simple.. but it's not. If we base everything on just divisions then imagine a situation.. a new player comes in, he is in 10th division, he buys dreadnaught, buys gemini, buys pilots, mods and here we go... he annihilates some newbies one by one.. in 10th division he is with 6 stars dreadnought, 16 and 10 gemini.. and he is not alone! there are tens of them.. and newbies with 2 stars paragons just quit the game because there is no balance.. at all. No.. that doesn't work either..

3) So what can we do... we could use Tiers of unlocked mechs and weapons! But that is just exactly the same as 1st bulletpoint.. The spender installs the game, buys lot of wepons, unlocks lot of tiers and gets put against 1st seasonal league experts with exactly same weapons. Quits and never comes back.. because this is not balance either..

The conclusion

There is no need to look for a super complicated formula for total stars, power of hangars, power of inventory ... it will be cheated one way or another..  There should be a super complicated formula though that includes all above.. How about considering players division, hangar power and unlocked tiers. We dont need to modify existing formular too much, we should just add few filtering rules:

1) NEVER EVER EVER PUT 1st seasonal division against 10th division newbies. It's so freaking simple, do not do this, never. ever. DO NOT. what about 9th division? No, NO.. bad idea.. which division is fine against top500 then? Well let's decide? In a perfect world I would say that a 1st seasonal division should only be allowed to fight first seasonal division! If they want to make a hangar power 700, they are very freaking welcome to do it, they will fight exactly the same 700 power hangar of the first seasonal division!!!! Not 10th... it's just idiotic.

Potential problems with this? Maybe.. I am not a God to determine perfect rules.. nobody is.. The clearest disadvantage I see is waiting times for the fight (If this was all human players vs human players).. but we are already getting 8 bots out of 10 players.. what can get worse? 

1a) So this limitation could be softened.. lets say if person hangar is 2000 power then a matchup is looking for +-1000 power to search for players. We could add points to the hangars depending on their division.. so lets say power of hangar is 2000, but his division is 10th.. it means his power is multiplied by .. 1 so his power of hangar is 2000.... 

if player in 1st division has hangar power of 2000 then it's multiplied by 2 or something.. 0.1 for each division maybe? So he will result in power of 4000 and will not be matched to the 10th division with same power.. so by this rule 10th division would meet 5th division with eual hangar strength.. because 5th division would be 2000*1.5 = 3000 and woud fall under +-1000 matchup 

In my opinion that would make it fairer, but it would still allow cheating.. one way or another.. it would just make game bearable for newbies.. that would not help others much. But that would be an improvement..  a new spending player would fight against new spending players and not oldies with same guns.. he would be able to enjoy the game at least until 1st division.. 

Which makes me wonder.. would it be all about divisions? maybe there should be 200 of them :) and not 20.. 

It's very difficult to balance the game without hurting some group of existing players.. but little steps could be done..

I personally am quite happy that I discovered lower hangars, I'm tired to play with super strong weapons, it's becoming quite repeatetive and boring.. it's a lot cooler to take a shotgun and have a proper fight.. I would be upset at this point if I was unable to fight against normal weapons.. which cap at about 2000-2500 hangar power.. and I can adjust my hangar power according to my liking.. in which case I think I would still be happy if i was fighting against same power of my own division... 

2) I also think there might be no need to improve anything and do filtering if maybe you could add more types of battles.. How about a room where players are only allowed to join if their mechs or weapons are less than "epic"? or maybe a room where you can use any mech, but only weapons that are less than epic?  A room that chages every few days to allow you only specific mech or only specific weapon, lets say everyone is with Slingshots and Autocannons... ? and they get 5 lifes, or neverending lifes like in Tournament.. 

It's just an example of a battle type, it can be anything... it's just my wish for those, but it doesn't have to be.. imagination is the limit.. the disadvantage is will be less human beings in control points, and other games.. but like I said we already getting 8 bots out of 10 people.. I can't see much more harm than that.. I would not mind to wait longer than 15 seconds.. to get a better experience. As a new starter it was cool, I didn't even understand that enemies are bots.. so maybe this additional battle types would appear only after specific division or a month in the game or something..

It seems developers care about things.. they constsatly change things and asking for feedback, so I just hope to help make this game better for everyone.. and not to moan..