I am not sure what problem you were trying to fix,  why was it even changed to begin with. 

Good afternoon, all I can say is it's far too easy to get into Diamond.

Many greetings

Devilking said:

One more time it´s official. 

Plarium don´t know how to make a fair brawl ranking. 

Diamond ranking from 661.100 - 17,7 mio. points !!!!! come on guys. Thats just a joke or? Is it so difficult !!!! 2 weeks ago i wrote how it would be fair for ALL leagues. But now it´s more than a joke. It is just a blame for plarium. 

Thanks for doing nothing 

Devilking

Hello, Devilking!

Thanks for sharing your point of view. Diamond Tier is the highest tier, so it's supposed to be difficult to get there. How many points do you think a League should have to be able to get to the Diamond Tier? Thanks! 

The highest reward in diamond is by 4,5 mio. points. That should be the mark for leagues that will play in diamond. 

But it should not be points that says who is in diamond or not. 

Plarium should make the division of the individual Trier according to the ranking. top50 leagues in diamond, 51-150 in gold, 151-300 in silver, 301-500 in bronze, ....

The first 3 of each Trier then move up to the next higher Trier for the next week. So it would also be possible for smaller leagues to advance to higher Trier and the division would be fair.

That´s what would be fair for all leagues.

Imperator said:

Good afternoon, all I can say is it's far too easy to get into Diamond.

Many greetings

Hello, Imperator!

Alina said:

Devilking said:

Plarium don´t know how to make a fair brawl ranking.

Diamond ranking from 661.100 - 17,7 mio. points

Hello, Devilking!

Thanks for sharing your point of view. Diamond Tier is the highest tier, so it's supposed to be difficult to get there. How many points do you think a League should have to be able to get to the Diamond Tier? Thanks! 

You are making this far too complicated by examining the points .... which are different every week, for every server and facebook servers too, so it will always be impossible to set fair targets for everyone

You need ONE simple rule - The Top 3 should be promoted and the Bottom 3 should be demoted

Ignore the points because they have no meaning

BiohazarD said:

Alina said:

Devilking said:

One more time it´s official. 

Plarium don´t know how to make a fair brawl ranking. 

Diamond ranking from 661.100 - 17,7 mio. points !!!!! come on guys. Thats just a joke or? Is it so difficult !!!! 2 weeks ago i wrote how it would be fair for ALL leagues. But now it´s more than a joke. It is just a blame for plarium. 

Thanks for doing nothing 

Devilking

Hello, Devilking!

Thanks for sharing your point of view. Diamond Tier is the highest tier, so it's supposed to be difficult to get there. How many points do you think a League should have to be able to get to the Diamond Tier? Thanks! 

That's the issue is it's currently too easy to get into diamond tier, so small leagues are ending up in it then having no chance of winning against the much larger leagues in it.  I think a good cutoff for diamond tier would be in the 4-4.5m range.  

And still nothing happens. 

First Alina (Mod) wrote: 

DIAMOND TIER IS THE HIGHEST TIER, SO IT´S SUPPOSED TO BE DIFFICULT TO GET THEIR 

Secound BiohazzarD (Mod) wrote:

IT´S CURRENTLY TOO EASY TO GET INTO DIAMOND

Last message from Alina:

THEY WILL CHANGE NOTHING AT THE MOMENT !!!!!

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Suddenly we can say - Plarium is just looking for our money and will do nothing for it. that´s fakt now. 

Wrong. That´s it with money in the game. For me and for sure also for a lot of other players. 

My suggestion could easily be applied to any plarium game and it would be easy to handle. and it would be fair for ALL leagues. but 591k points for DIAMONT Tier !!! Really. I think it would be possible that our league and most of the other leagues would make 600k points just with troops production also when all player from a league will be off for the next 48 hours !!!!!!!! 

SeanChan2002 said:

Diamond Tier is the highest tier, so it's supposed to be difficult to get there. How many points do you think a League should have to be able to get to the Diamond Tier?

For me it 20 leagues in diamond worked pretty well. 

It took about 5m points to get in diamond on my server. By intention or by chance this pretty much put the divinding line just about where I would subjectively put the split between the "top leagues" and the next leagues. 

So it worked very well in splitting ppl into groups of similarly competitive leagues.....  until it got changed for reasons that have never been clearly explained.

Wesley Pringle said:

I do empathize with non-coining players but the fact is even non-coiners have made it into upper level leagues Because they are steady contributors and those that do are able to excel due to the rewards that are generated from being active in the league Quest and Contest.

You are making a massive assumption that the only healthy way for the game to work is if for people to have to work their way into existing big coining leagues.

What about learning and playing and then through the skill, knowledge and experience gained, rising to the top as a team if it turns out you are very good at the game?. Things are so unbalanced you don't even recognise that as an option. That says a lot.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought the Brawl was originally based on power points. Go back to that, maybe? Power points seemed like a fair enough way to assign leagues to an appropriate Brawl level. 

You can fix the brawl issues noted by simply reducing the number of leagues in each tier back to it's original level e.g. Diamond equals top 20 leagues from the prior brawl.

They could add a new coiner tier above diamond tier ... rather like the Elite coiner tier in pvp tournaments

This would breath new life into the Silver, Gold and Diamond tiers on all servers overnight

They could also extend the pvp element by including all combat (perhaps giving half points like the original league duel did)

Wesley Pringle said:

It's really not a practical solution to have twenty leagues to a brawl level in all the servers that would require many more levels with rewards decreasing at each level it would actually reduce the units and rewards earned at each level of completion for many more leagues than it does now.

Sometimes simple solutions are not the answer for complex issues  

I'm not sure about it. 

The old system (see below) didn't reduce brawl rewards for smaller leagues, as you want to claim, it increased them. That is why people from smaller leagues make the complaints they did/still do. 

Below is the original Gold and Platinum brawl reward system.

A league in gold clearing say 2.4m could take home more reward than a league in platinum doing 3.5m.

A league in gold doing 1.2m would clear more than a league in Platinum doing the same point.

Yes the individual level rewards are SLIGHTLY lower in gold, but you could clear more levels for the same points so you got a bigger overall reward

On a side note:

"Sometimes simple solutions are not the answer for complex issues"  - I don't really believe in it.

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Devilking said:

One more time it´s official. 

Plarium don´t know how to make a fair brawl ranking. 

Diamond ranking from 661.100 - 17,7 mio. points !!!!! come on guys. Thats just a joke or? Is it so difficult !!!! 2 weeks ago i wrote how it would be fair for ALL leagues. But now it´s more than a joke. It is just a blame for plarium. 

Thanks for doing nothing 

And here once again - how it would be fair for all leagues !!!!!

Plarium should make the division of the individual Trier according to the ranking. top50 leagues in diamond, 51-150 in gold, 151-300 in silver, 301-500 in bronze, ....

The first 3 of each Trier then move up to the next higher Trier for the next week. So it would also be possible for smaller leagues to advance to higher Trier and the division would be fair. auto clicker

Devilking

Diamond Tier is the highest tier, so it's supposed to be difficult to get there. How many points do you think a League should have to be able to get to the Diamond Tier?

Alina said:

Hello, my Lords!

First of all, I would like to note that there are not so many Leagues in the Diamond Tier from what we can see. Also, we don't think that it's too easy or too hard to get there. We consider it to be fair at the moment (our assumptions are based on the analysis of the previous League Brawls).

Besides, the more points you have, the better your rewards are. The sense here is to compete with the other League and, of course, it's a pleasure to beat your opponent, however, even if you don't, you still get your rewards. 

At the moment we're not ready to change anything here. We do hope for your understanding. 

Can we simplify this thread (A LOT)

It's got nothing to do with points.... that is just a symptom of the problem.

Originally there were 20 leagues per tier in the brawl.

Either intentionally or as a bug (because it has subsequently flipped back to 20 and then back to 100, so it might be a bug) there are now 100 or more.

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The impact of this is pretty much every sensible league in the game is now bunched in Diamond Tier. The only leagues not in Diamond are tiny ones with just a couple of members.

Presumably the concept of Tiers is to try and pit leagues of similar sizes and activity levels against each other. That way everyone feels a chance of competing in their Tier and has something to work for and enjoys the event.

Having virtually all the active leagues in the game in the same Diamond Tier is making for completely one-sided match ups. You have the top leagues in the game scoring 10m points per brawl. And you have tiny mom and pop casual player leagues in the same tier who score only 500k.

The old Tiers were pretty good at breaking up the leagues into similar leagues. Diamond cut-off was about 5m points and had most of the major leagues in it. Gold went from 1.5-3.0m and had what most people would define as the next rung of leagues in it. Leagues of similar size and potential got pitted against each other.

You might as well get rid of Tiers altogether now, given the impact the change has had. And that is bad because I think Tiers was a good idea.

Hello, my Lords!

First of all, I would like to note that there are not so many Leagues in the Diamond Tier from what we can see. Also, we don't think that it's too easy or too hard to get there. We consider it to be fair at the moment (our assumptions are based on the analysis of the previous League Brawls).

Besides, the more points you have, the better your rewards are. The sense here is to compete with the other League and, of course, it's a pleasure to beat your opponent, however, even if you don't, you still get your rewards. 

At the moment we're not ready to change anything here. We do hope for your understanding. 

Devilking said:

One more time it´s official. 

Plarium don´t know how to make a fair brawl ranking. 

Diamond ranking from 661.100 - 17,7 mio. points !!!!! come on guys. Thats just a joke or? Is it so difficult !!!! 2 weeks ago i wrote how it would be fair for ALL leagues. But now it´s more than a joke. It is just a blame for plarium. 

Thanks for doing nothing 

Devilking

Hello, Devilking!