Marcel Stokvis said:

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.

This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Why should a league agree to a state of War and give the opposition tournament points and league accomplishments. I will not agree to a War unless there is a good chance of winning. Why agree to a losing War? So many War challenges are traps.

Marcel Stokvis said:

Juglar del Viento said:

Lord Marcel

i have edited ur coment and leave a yellow lines about ur behaviour

please refrain it and try to be respecfull with other people

Regards

please do the same everytime your fellow "moderator" abuses his powers ....
I realise this puts a strain on your alloted times online but it cannot be helped

Surely even the moderators must now realise what kind of flawed person he is if he is even being investigated by Lord Oberon himself
Besides this would not have happend if you had taken the time to delete his comment from this thread in the 1st place like i ASKED

Hello, Lord Marcel.

I don't see here an example when moderator abuses his power. 

Also, I would like to remind you that according to Forum rules it's not allowed to discuss moderstors and their decisions/actions on Forum.

You can discuss it with Lord Oberon in private.

Juglar del Viento said:

Lord Marcel

i have edited ur coment and leave a yellow lines about ur behaviour

please refrain it and try to be respecfull with other people

Regards

please do the same everytime your fellow "moderator" abuses his powers ....
I realise this puts a strain on your alloted times online but it cannot be helped

Surely even the moderators must now realise what kind of flawed person he is if he is even being investigated by Lord Oberon himself
Besides this would not have happend if you had taken the time to delete his comment from this thread in the 1st place like i ASKED

Lord Marcel

i have edited ur coment and leave a yellow lines about ur behaviour

please refrain it and try to be respecfull with other people

sorry lol forgive my last question ... it was stupid.
You promoted a total deleted to moderator, we already know plarium gives deleted all about the game or its players ...

I forgot, my bad

i have edited some part of ur coment

now take this as a warning from my side. Usually i warn only a few cause i think all we are old enough for bein civilizated and kind persons

please respect another people all we are persons and we all worths a kind of respect 

if you or any other user has any kind of problem about moderators u have only one way, and this way is not insulting or despecting people. that way is pm to Lord Oberon and explain him the reasons u have.

as i said please take this as a warn

Juglar del Viento

OCTAVIAN said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, Lords and Ladies! :) 

The final reply regarding this question is that we'll not allow setting an automatic State of War status between the two Leagues.

Oracle is right, there are different reasons that led to this decision. But the main reason is that we don't want to make Leagues to enter a war as it could be against their policies. 

Also, War is not only about Battles, it's also about Diplomacy. So, you can solve such questions through negotiations.

So how can Diplomacy give you this http://prntscr.com/fwrgmf ? If all leagues refuse your war request because they can ? 

That is why you will often see friendly leagues and even a league and their training league At War and in Challenges almost constantly. They communicate and set targets. Since they are actually allied they can determine the outcome and both gain points.

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, Lords and Ladies! :) 

The final reply regarding this question is that we'll not allow setting an automatic State of War status between the two Leagues.

Oracle is right, there are different reasons that led to this decision. But the main reason is that we don't want to make Leagues to enter a war as it could be against their policies. 

Also, War is not only about Battles, it's also about Diplomacy. So, you can solve such questions through negotiations.

So how can Diplomacy give you this http://prntscr.com/fwrgmf ? If all leagues refuse your war request because they can ? 

Oracle said:

Ok lets get back to trolling and complaining. 

Lets get these topic on trek again. 

Enough complaining and trolling, arguing about ww2 history is more fun :)  (jk)

Oracle said:

donlepre said:

Just do like Germany did and attack them and force them into war lol

Most wars are lost by rushing into battle without proper intelligence. History has taught us that. Also is best to use the term ''Nazi Germany'' rather than ''Germany'' when referring to events between 1939-1945. (your choice )

Nazi Germany didn't have enough military power to win or prolong the war long enough to force surrender. Their intelligence was null. For example, They attacked  the Soviet istead of Britain. 

If they did their intel right they would have known that British Army was lacking in heavy weaponry and motor transport. They also lacked the operational concept and experience to resist a German invasion. 

Actually, if Hitler had listen to his more than competent Generals rather than do it his own way, things might have been different. Also, at the outbreak of the war Germany had no real means to do a invasion of Britain. Hence trying to break them by the air before any such could take place, but hey, there is that litle thing called "their finest hour".... 

After the cleansing of the soviet army. They wasn't really in any good shape to fight any wars either. Not exactly equiped good either. But Russia had a great ally in king winter. Just ask Napoleon :p

Gadheras said:

Actually, if Hitler had listen to his more than competent Generals rather than do it his own way, things might have been different. Also, at the outbreak of the war Germany had no real means to do a invasion of Britain. Hence trying to break them by the air before any such could take place, but hey, there is that litle thing called "their finest hour".... 

Britain was in a much worse state. They commissioned most of their naval fleet from the general populace. Thier navy was just old cargo ships equipped with guns. They had less materials than the soviet. If Hitler had attacked Britain, he would have likely won. The air strikes were also demolorizing. They would have won and the likely hood was than the USA would have stayed out of the conflict long enough for Japan to get its things together. 

But instead he chose to fight two fronts investing more resources to towards the soviet invasion. These gave the USA time to counter in France, and invade the mainland. 

Oracle said:

Gadheras said:

Actually, if Hitler had listen to his more than competent Generals rather than do it his own way, things might have been different. Also, at the outbreak of the war Germany had no real means to do a invasion of Britain. Hence trying to break them by the air before any such could take place, but hey, there is that litle thing called "their finest hour".... 

Britain was in a much worse state. They commissioned most of their naval fleet from the general populace. Thier navy was just old cargo ships equipped with guns. They had less materials than the soviet. If Hitler had attacked Britain, he would have likely won. The air strikes were also demolorizing. They would have won and the likely hood was than the USA would have stayed out of the conflict long enough for Japan to get its things together. 

But instead he chose to fight two fronts investing more resources to towards the soviet invasion. These gave the USA time to counter in France, and invade the mainland. 

Hitler had a plan to invade England, it had the name "operation sea lion" once the Luftwaffe had air superiority. Something they didn't manage + RAF bomber command took out barges intened for the invasion during night raids. The invasion plans got scratched. By this stage Britain had turned into a god damn fortress as well. 

As for gave time for the US to counter in France and invade the mainland. Yeah sorry, England wasnt there, Canada wasnt there. Free French Forces wasnt there....  oh and in addition , Polish forces and contingents from Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Greece and the Netherlands wasnt there.

and some more facts "The invasion fleet was drawn from eight different navies, comprising 6,939 vessels: 1,213 warships, 4,126 transport vessels (landing ships and landing craft), and 736 ancillary craft and 864 merchant vessels"

You know, the term Alies and Axies is due to a reason....  :p

Gadheras said:

Actually, if Hitler had listen to his more than competent Generals rather than do it his own way, things might have been different. Also, at the outbreak of the war Germany had no real means to do a invasion of Britain. Hence trying to break them by the air before any such could take place, but hey, there is that litle thing called "their finest hour".... 

Britain was in a much worse state. They commissioned most of their naval fleet from the general populace. Thier navy was just old cargo ships equipped with guns. They had less materials than the soviet. If Hitler had attacked Britain, he would have likely won. The air strikes were also demolorizing. They would have won and the likely hood was than the USA would have stayed out of the conflict long enough for Japan to get its things together. 

But instead he chose to fight two fronts investing more resources to towards the soviet invasion. These gave the USA time to counter in France, and invade the mainland. 

Oracle said:

Gadheras said:

Actually, if Hitler had listen to his more than competent Generals rather than do it his own way, things might have been different. Also, at the outbreak of the war Germany had no real means to do a invasion of Britain. Hence trying to break them by the air before any such could take place, but hey, there is that litle thing called "their finest hour".... 

Britain was in a much worse state. They commissioned most of their naval fleet from the general populace. Thier navy was just old cargo ships equipped with guns. They had less materials than the soviet. If Hitler had attacked Britain, he would have likely won. The air strikes were also demolorizing. They would have won and the likely hood was than the USA would have stayed out of the conflict long enough for Japan to get its things together. 

But instead he chose to fight two fronts investing more resources to towards the soviet invasion. These gave the USA time to counter in France, and invade the mainland. 

Um.... Where are you getting your information from?  Britain had the largest navy in the world when WW2 started.  Some of their ships were outdated, but they were by no means a pushover.    

Oracle said:

Gadheras said:

Hitler had a plan to invade England, it had the name "operation sea lion" once the Luftwaffe had air superiority. Something they didn't manage + RAF bomber command took out barges intened for the invasion during night raids. The invasion plans got scratched. By this stage Britain had turned into a god damn fortress as well. 

As for gave time for the US to counter in France and invade the mainland. Yeah sorry, England wasnt there, Canada wasnt there. Free French Forces wasnt there....  oh and in addition , Polish forces and contingents from Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Greece and the Netherlands wasnt there.

and some more facts "The invasion fleet was drawn from eight different navies, comprising 6,939 vessels: 1,213 warships, 4,126 transport vessels (landing ships and landing craft), and 736 ancillary craft and 864 merchant vessels"

You know, the term Alies and Axies is due to a reason....  :p

Remember Nazi Germany used over 4 million troops to invade the soviet. On the other side of Nazi Germany the British were withdrawing after France was conquered. These made the British very vulnerable, they had heavy machinery which made them move very slowly. They land and air strikes which were a primary reason for Britain withdrawal from France could have done a heavy blow on the slow moving Britain army. The air strikes dealt a heavy blow on Britain military and air force bases, by 1940 Britain air force were almost crippled. Those 4 million troops could have just came around and finished the job that the land and air strikes failed to do. 

In the end Britain would have lost. Then Russia could be invaded through coalition with Japan. But by negleting inteligence hittler made a grave mistake with operation torch, and had to fight on two fronts. 

lulz, I just gave you the facts and historic reasons WHY IT DIDNT HAPPEN, and you keep go on with your fantasy. 

Hitler started plan the first steps operation "Barbarossa" in July of 1940, short after the invasion of mainland Europe, but the actual invasion didn't start before June 1941. By this time, the Battle of Britain was just about over and the failure to get air superiority. + the fact the Royal Navy was a considerable power to be considered. Hammered the nails into any idea of invade England.

Operation torch came to be as the soviets wanted the allies to open a 2nd front to relieve some stress on the Russian front. This started November, 1942. But remember, there been fighting in Northern Africa ever since the outbreak of the war. Early on this was primary Italy vs  British Commonwealth forces. In and around Egypt/Libya. Hitler sent the Afrika Corps under Erwin Rommel to reinforce the Italians as they was on a verge of utter defeat. 

On your comment on Japan...  There is a little thing in the history books called  The battle of midway. 1942, a mere 6 months after Pearl Harbour. Japan lost majority of the forces they attacked Pearl with. Then in the following campaign on the Solomon Islands. Japan reached a critical mass in regard of replenish material and troops to sustain itself. 

Look, we can go round after round with your fantasy vs actual historic facts, but by now some of this should have sunk in right?