Pardon Me I have a question. I thought I knew a lot with regards to beacon, till I receive these question form one of my F online

 If a beacon can safely be hit at X amount safely and must be soften to to a value greater or equals X amount. Why would one need to soften it if it has Y amount.  

for example if a beacon has 68 mil defense, a few heavy softening are required to bring back the defense back to nearly 50 mil. If these is true then any softener must have offense capable of bringing down some defense right? and the value is calculated from the initial defense found in the beacon using the D= O+D\D right, or any other online calculator? if these is true. then is means running offense lower than the offense capable of causing harm in a beacon is a suicide run? if these is true then...

If so then Emperors need a 120 mil+ softener to run down a 250-450+ million defended beacon. But the looks of screenshot gathered from my intel, there we several hits most lower than 20 mil in offense. 

even if we are to assume that Destiny had some 750 mil defense, which an intel has recently shown. Why would Emperors need softeners of they have 1.5 billion offense, and there was a 90% free revival. 

I am very confused. Maybe the formula need modifications. Maybe all is not at it seem 

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Well i gladly take that loss and more. Thats the diffrens between me and others..

I dont cry about loosing troops .

I dont let anyone dictate what i will do and when. 

This was started by me and everything was agreed before lauch-- meaning all ur words about emps saving their troops is not true.. If u see all the attacks u also see many soften from them as well.

Yes the hammer is last.. Whats new in that? 

They helped us taking Destiny Beacon down so that they saved some of the hammer only makes me happy..

test said:

Unforgiven failed to properly defend and level up 3x edge beacons during spawn and what is now more than a month afterwards.  That is a massive differene between 2 leagues using up nearly 100% of their players offense to take down one of our beacons and it getting posted about moments later.

To this day, Unforgiven have still failed to even level up a single edge beacon...how sad.

Why would we bother when Destiny are busy around the clock STILL ponging those edge beacons. How petty. 

Lets see how you like a taste of your own medicine.

Trentos said:

test said:

Unforgiven failed to properly defend and level up 3x edge beacons during spawn and what is now more than a month afterwards.  That is a massive differene between 2 leagues using up nearly 100% of their players offense to take down one of our beacons and it getting posted about moments later.

To this day, Unforgiven have still failed to even level up a single edge beacon...how sad.

Why would we bother when Destiny are busy around the clock STILL ponging those edge beacons. How petty. 

Lets see how you like a taste of your own medicine.

I don't think they are that bothered about it - btw I didn't see any Unforgivens hitting Destiny just Ratcoms and Emps - their losses are also revived so basically minimal loss to kill a heck of a lot more offense (after revival)

If Destiny actually cared about beacons they would have taken back more of their edge a long time ago - the game has changed - why bother? better to hold two the way they have and watch the offense die as it hit them

I think Destiny should drop their beacons all together and enjoy playing the offense game

lords and ladies 

i know everyone wants to make a point and to prove it 

but if that point is in anyway undermining the other person then please keep it to yourself or be banned your choice 

final warning LOL cant believe that the guys involved are captains and marshals of top leagues 

see now that was a good offense with zero insults for more lessons PM me :))

Jezebel said:

because Emps wont take big losses on their hammer but they would gladly let Warhawk take that 10 million loss (after revival) to save their own troops, i have seen all the hits and Emps hammer never went in until there would be next to no losses for them after revival

These is where it doesn't make sense. You throw in 10 million you get 9 million back. A couple of 5+ hits I saw that is over 50 million loss in offence, Emperors hammer go in 1.5 billion losses loss less than 100 mil, gain back 90 million. loss 10 million. 

exxxe said:

lords and ladies 

i know everyone wants to make a point and to prove it 

but if that point is in anyway undermining the other person then please keep it to yourself or be banned your choice 

final warning LOL cant believe that the guys involved are captains and marshals of top leagues 

see now that was a good offense with zero insults for more lessons PM me :))

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

because Emps wont take big losses on their hammer but they would gladly let Warhawk take that 10 million loss (after revival) to save their own troops, i have seen all the hits and Emps hammer never went in until there would be next to no losses for them after revival

These is where it doesn't make sense. You throw in 10 million you get 9 million back. A couple of 5+ hits I saw that is over 50 million loss in offence, Emperors hammer go in 1.5 billion losses loss less than 100 mil, gain back 90 million. loss 10 million. 

Why would the leagues commit a senseless suicide. These doesn't make sense

I have seen the hits I can guarantee that 10% of Warhawks army that he sacrificed exceeded 6 million+ not to mention the rest of the "softeners"  - also by the time Emps used their hammer there was next to nothing in it - I could have taken it myself :)  So yeah even after revival there were major losses for the softeners and almost nothing for the "hammer" that never gets used unless next to no losses are incurred - shame they built/bought such a big army they are afraid to incur some minor losses and will let their "friends" suffer the brunt of them

they were NOT 10 million softeners 

Warhawk75 said:

LOL we only lost 10% and was worth it... All ur long time dont come back ;)..

I dont claim its my plan alone. But im the one starting the approch and talking to diffrent leagues no matter u belive it or not.. And since we needed bigger hammer i knew Emps were in.

Dont try to twist my words . I will not work im smarter than that ;).

You can do ur crying alone.. U pretend to be alltime great and noone could take u down .. Well u have been proven wrong!! And other leagues know this by now.. 

U are not as strong as u used to be.

And honestly truth is better.. At least one of us know what that means.. U dont know that meaning of that word.. 

And that u cant even reconize other triump says a lot about how ***************

I know it hurt u to see ur protected Beacon go down.. Now ppl know it can be done and u are not safe anymore lol... I would cry too if i were u

hey jez 

those guys need one of your song breaks :))

this is for you Warhawk :)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3Vdo5etCQ

oh come on test you serious 

what is this then 

http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/leagues/33777_emps-leadership-goes-rogue-and-fellowship-pays-the-price- 

yes i deleted the first one but after your editing here it is still out there 

nope you wont get a ban for winning you will just get ignored lol ( its a joke laugh ) :)))

but on a serious note 

sorry for your losses and good luck 

exxxe said:

oh come on test you serious 

what is this then 

http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/leagues/33777_emps-leadership-goes-rogue-and-fellowship-pays-the-price- 

yes i deleted the first one but after your editing here it is still out there 

nope you wont get a ban for winning you will just get ignored lol ( its a joke laugh ) :)))

but on a serious note 

sorry for your losses and good luck 

Since we're getting techincal, you deleted the first one and the second one.   

And it wasn't until you got called out for censoring the forums that you finally allowed the third thread one to be left up.  

So yeah, I do have one up, but you took down not just one, but two posts / threads of mine that didn't have any personal info and were battle reports.

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brunsonthomas said:

Why is it that several of you dominate with your opinions and do not care that your posts can inflame other players to do things not in their best interest. Free edge Beacons indeed! Only if you want to lose all your defense in one hit or you can talk the Balur league into letting you keep it for a few days! Correct me if I'm wrong.

the beacons are not well defended if that has changed i would sure hope someone attempting to hit them would send a test hit before going all in

the game has changed brunson people who are tired of it are trying to have some fun - i don't blame them 

Trentos said:

Jezebel said:

this thread may as well get locked since the original intent was to flame unforgivens and its gone way beyond that now

I am in agreement with Jezebel on this matter. The beacons in the opening post were never free, and never will be. Destiny have wasted a month ponging them at a significant loss of offense/defense (as early as today). They seem to have some unhealthy obsession with them? Wierd to say the least. 

The original attempt to flame was amateur at best, and the poster cannot help himself but resort to schoolyard insults if anyone else responds. If you tell him how it is, he'll go crying to the teacher and get your posts edited. So may as well move on, and let Test and Exxxe take their constant back and forwards offline.

I also agree that the beacon massacre is ruining the beacon game. Just look at the Eastern edge of the map - it is a wasteland. But still opportunities for easy PvP/XP as the uncoordinated try to stack with defense.

well don't be mistaken about my comments - those beacons were never defended for a long time so the intent of the flame was to show that they weren't - i am not so sure it was a waste of time if they are getting pvp from it, if someone lost offense there then they didn't test hit them first or the Unforgiven leadership has finally decided their defense would better serve the league on the beacon than in their own castles for pvp

i think the flame started out well - all the other stuff has taken from it - I have had posts removed also and I didn't like it so I can see why someone would get peeved - test included - test has always backed his posts with screen shots and proof of what he is saying so I am not sure what you mean by all of that

as for the beacons - anyone who holds one better stack it right and level it up to level 5 if they intend to keep it - anyone who tries to hold too many beacons is going to lose big - its a mistake that some leagues are learning the hard way - I don't even know why they bother at this point, DE means nothing in terms of your troops with all the bonuses etc that are available now - as for reducing food consumption - if you raid its not an issue

but here we go again .... off topic

brunsonthomas said:

Jezebel said:

brunsonthomas said:

Why is it that several of you dominate with your opinions and do not care that your posts can inflame other players to do things not in their best interest. Free edge Beacons indeed! Only if you want to lose all your defense in one hit or you can talk the Balur league into letting you keep it for a few days! Correct me if I'm wrong.

the beacons are not well defended if that has changed i would sure hope someone attempting to hit them would send a test hit before going all in

the game has changed brunson people who are tired of it are trying to have some fun - i don't blame them 

I don't blame them either but baiting inexperienced leagues is just another form of bullying. If the Beacons were really free and the inexperienced leagues allowed to grow until they could survive major battles that is one thing. Baiting them into a trap for your own enjoyment is not. Surrendering Beacons to Balur in protest. What has that gained anyone?

what is gained by the beacon massacre events? its ruined the game 

brunsonthomas said:

Why is it that several of you dominate with your opinions and do not care that your posts can inflame other players to do things not in their best interest. Free edge Beacons indeed! Only if you want to lose all your defense in one hit or you can talk the Balur league into letting you keep it for a few days! Correct me if I'm wrong.

the beacons are not well defended if that has changed i would sure hope someone attempting to hit them would send a test hit before going all in

the game has changed brunson people who are tired of it are trying to have some fun - i don't blame them 

song picks for today dedicated to exxxe :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYjZK_6i37M

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