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11 серп. 2016, 17:1911.08.16
11 серп. 2016, 17:21(edited)
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lwonderly said:

I stand corrected. The rules read tiers and I read levels. My mistake. My apologies to UE.
I also read it the same way, but still how is it determined which tier a league is in?  League achievements?  League ranking? How is it determined?
11 серп. 2016, 17:4211.08.16
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the league rankings are screwed up because of the fortresses. there are leagues who are ranked much higher than they should be, all because they have a level 8 fortress. 


the ranking system has been screwed up for a while. now you have leagues in tiers that are way out of their league. 
11 серп. 2016, 21:5011.08.16
11 серп. 2016, 21:52(edited)
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Jezebel said:


lwonderly said:


I stand corrected. The rules read tiers and I read levels. My mistake. My apologies to UE.
I also read it the same way, but still how is it determined which tier a league is in?  League achievements?  League ranking? How is it determined?

League ranking


V 1-50

IV 51-100

III 101-150

12 серп. 2016, 08:1612.08.16
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IronApex Turok said:

the league rankings are screwed up because of the fortresses. there are leagues who are ranked much higher than they should be, all because they have a level 8 fortress. 


the ranking system has been screwed up for a while. now you have leagues in tiers that are way out of their league. 
Leagues were divided into Tiers according to their Ranking position, not Fortress level.
12 серп. 2016, 08:1812.08.16
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Fortuneteller said:


Same happened to us. Our flag was taken by a league owning multiple beacons. how is that 1 level below?
It depends on your Rankings. Most likely you are in the same Tier, or they are 1 Tier above. If you're 100% sure that they are more than 1 Tier above and they've captured your Flag, you may contact our Support Team and they will check if everything is right.
12 серп. 2016, 08:5512.08.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Fortuneteller said:



Same happened to us. Our flag was taken by a league owning multiple beacons. how is that 1 level below?
It depends on your Rankings. Most likely you are in the same Tier, or they are 1 Tier above. If you're 100% sure that they are more than 1 Tier above and they've captured your Flag, you may contact our Support Team and they will check if everything is right.

Couldnt it be a way for Plarium to figure out a leagues military power. and rank the leagues acordingly to that? At least when sorting them in tiers for tournaments like this.



12 серп. 2016, 09:2612.08.16
12 серп. 2016, 09:26(edited)
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Fortuneteller said:


Same happened to us. Our flag was taken by a league owning multiple beacons. how is that 1 level below?
It depends on your Rankings. Most likely you are in the same Tier, or they are 1 Tier above. If you're 100% sure that they are more than 1 Tier above and they've captured your Flag, you may contact our Support Team and they will check if everything is right.
The league in question is 141 and we are 241. shouldn't we be two tiers below? please, let me know. thanks!
12 серп. 2016, 11:2512.08.16
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Fortuneteller said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Fortuneteller said:


Same happened to us. Our flag was taken by a league owning multiple beacons. how is that 1 level below?
It depends on your Rankings. Most likely you are in the same Tier, or they are 1 Tier above. If you're 100% sure that they are more than 1 Tier above and they've captured your Flag, you may contact our Support Team and they will check if everything is right.
The league in question is 141 and we are 241. shouldn't we be two tiers below? please, let me know. thanks!
My lady if you are sure that they are more than 1 Tier above you and have your Flag please send ticket to Help Desk 
12 серп. 2016, 13:4912.08.16
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I suppose if the tier system had be explained in the first place there would not have been this confusion.  Since this is a Fortress Challenge ... silly me the assumption was that the fortress level would determine what tier you were in.
12 серп. 2016, 15:1912.08.16
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Aries said:


Fortune Teller.. you were NOT Cheated..NO Ticket is necessary Only Tier 4 and 5 are restricted to 50 members, that was so  a #5 team couldn't attack anyone below #100 and make it fair.. Tier 3 consists of leagues ranked from 100 to 200, Tier 3 is leagues ranked 200 to 300 and tier 1 is every one else.  SO as you can clearly see a team ranked 150 can take a flag from team 250.   ( Tier 3 attacking Tier 4 )    This was all in the Preliminary information that was posted by Plarium Days before the contest started. ( how tiers would be determined )  Then once it began the INFO window clearly talks about how to see what Tier YOUR  Teams flag is in and how to see what Others Flags are. They even provided a Table of team to chose from in order from top to bottom

The key to these Contests is Planning and execution. When we are told days in advance of a new Contest. you must take the time to read what they say and not go blindly forward after the fact.

UE read the info carefully.. we planned  and when the contest started we executed our Plan. Other teams that  didnt loly gag also did well

Hi Aries, never have I said that we were cheated on. I was simply asking about the exact level range of the tiers. Here I have to say you were wrong, this was not disclosed. It was said that the number of the flags reflect the tier you are in but as far as I'm concerned no league levels were linked to the tiers.

You are talking about planning ahead but, the information was provided could not prepare us who to expect an attack from. I know how to see what tier I'm in, but that was not my question at all! Most of the information you are giving me was published after the event started. 

I feel you are trying to depict a wrong impression of us so I have to say that we did not go blindly into the tournament... we knew the things from the forum. 

It is also easier to prey on lower level leagues... but wait there are not many tier 1 leagues with a level 3 fortress... as they had been mostly downgraded before the tourney. so it seems easier for a tier 3 to find a tier 2 and a tier 4 to find a tier 3 than a tier 2 finding a tier 1. It would only be fair if every tier had equal size of 'fishing water' but, it looks like the further up in the food chain you are the more opportunities you may have. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you and your league are doing just fine. I'm just not so sure this tourney was thoroughly thought out & balanced.

12 серп. 2016, 15:2612.08.16
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Aries said:

The key to these Contests is Planning and execution. When we are told days in advance of a new Contest. you must take the time to read what they say and not go blindly forward after the fact.

UE read the info carefully.. we planned  and when the contest started we executed our Plan. Other teams that  didnt loly gag also did well
Which part of that plan envolved attacking your ALLIES?
12 серп. 2016, 18:5112.08.16
12 серп. 2016, 19:18(edited)
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If you all think this tournament is insane, then try playing on Untamed Lands or Kabam servers

There aren't enough active leagues with level 3 Forts - they were all smashed as soon as they appeared.

Almost all flags are in the hands of top 7 leagues

Class IV top ten comprises ONE league, who have grabbed all of the Class III Flags (34 flags but not any Class IV)

We are left with 16 pages filled with leagues without any flags




15 серп. 2016, 13:2315.08.16
15 серп. 2016, 13:29(edited)
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Why would anyone ever want to attack a well defended fortress? The whole idea of raising the attack limit is insane

What we need is a better way to DEFEND our forts otherwise they will remain empty forever


This is what happened when 3 idiots decided to attack our fort - http://prntscr.com/c5yvsj


They lost heavily, but so did we

Because of this attack I was finally able to convince my league to pull ALL defense from the fort, never to return.


Epic battles do not create an epic wargame - it just causes epic losses for everyone

This is NOT the definition of Hardcore MMO
16 серп. 2016, 14:0916.08.16
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Thank you all. I have passed your feedback and ideas regarding this Tournament to our devs.
22 серп. 2016, 09:0322.08.16
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IronApex Turok said:


a level 8 fortress provides 153k worth of influence points.  the only way to get that amount of points is by taking on multiple beacons in high territory areas. 


So for those with few to no beacons, Fortress makes up a significant portion of their ranking points. 
You're right. Many players were asking us to add something for those who can't capture the Beacons. And the Fortress is that kind of feature. It's free to build, could be free to upgrade if you succeed in Tournaments and Missions, and it has 2 safe levels which don't require any Units to protect. 
23 серп. 2016, 23:5623.08.16
23 серп. 2016, 23:57(edited)
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


IronApex Turok said:



a level 8 fortress provides 153k worth of influence points.  the only way to get that amount of points is by taking on multiple beacons in high territory areas. 


So for those with few to no beacons, Fortress makes up a significant portion of their ranking points. 
You're right. Many players were asking us to add something for those who can't capture the Beacons. And the Fortress is that kind of feature. It's free to build, could be free to upgrade if you succeed in Tournaments and Missions, and it has 2 safe levels which don't require any Units to protect. 

You really like to play words game. While you win, only.

You claim that you made fortress for those who can't have beacon. Did you? It seems that you made fortress for every league not just for those who can't have beacon, because, as opposite, you will disabled effects of fortress for those who have beacon(s).

So you DIDN'T make anything for smaller leagues, but made another point where differences are obvious. Beacons as only beacons are free, and leveling up is free, too. For most of fortress leveling up is possible only for sapps, specially if you are smaller league. With no benefit compared to the bigger leagues.

I'm not talking about fortress, whether it is justified that they exist, I'm talking about your mantra about gesture towards small leagues, and your good will to help smaller leagues. Please don't help us more, we're more OK yesterday than today, than we will be tomorrow.

24 серп. 2016, 16:0224.08.16
24 серп. 2016, 16:05(edited)
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


You're right. Many players were asking us to add something for those who can't capture the Beacons. And the Fortress is that kind of feature. It's free to build, could be free to upgrade if you succeed in Tournaments and Missions, and it has 2 safe levels which don't require any Units to protect. 

Too many smaller leagues built their fortress with no idea how much it was going to cost to upgrade, so they ended up with level zero fort and absolutely no benefit - What are you offering these leagues?

.... or maybe you should muzzle the big leagues who love to play whack-a-mole with weak forts - give level zero to level 3 permanent protection.

Help weak leagues to grow and you will earn our respect for a change
25 серп. 2016, 07:5425.08.16
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Snowgoon said:

Too many smaller leagues built their fortress with no idea how much it was going to cost to upgrade, so they ended up with level zero fort and absolutely no benefit - What are you offering these leagues?

.... or maybe you should muzzle the big leagues who love to play whack-a-mole with weak forts - give level zero to level 3 permanent protection.

Help weak leagues to grow and you will earn our respect for a change
They can collect the necessary Resources in Tournaments.
26 жовт. 2016, 03:3426.10.16
26 жовт. 2016, 03:37(edited)
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Well. sounds like a fun game !


Lots of losses and no gains.


No reason to play it, our fort will remain undefended at our safe zone. Let the hurricane of losses pass through for other people.And for those who really want to see this work. why not make it a volunteer program. Since not everyone is interested.

Enjoy !
26 жовт. 2016, 05:4626.10.16
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I believe that KT will once again be sitting this out.  


For the rest of the people, can you please post the rules again?

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