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SO I LOST, MY STRONHOLD IS ONLY LEVEL 3, i cant do battle in my stronhold

SO I LOST, MY STRONHOLD IS ONLY LEVEL 3, i cant do battle in my stronhold

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Apr 22, 2022, 08:0604/22/22
01/11/17
4649
VJAL

If i get matched with to a level 4/5 enemy stronghold i know i lose the game anyway, they only need to spend some dust and fight in the battle of stronghold AND BAM THEY WIN 3 levels, while i need to work on getting warriors, upgrading clan, attacking invaders and ghosts. If they start battle in stronghold i need to be home and awake. This time i was awake but with help from that other clan i lost again tyvm.

I got your point, VJAL, and have forwarded it to the developers👍

Feel free to share all ideas and suggestions with me😇

Apr 22, 2022, 10:0404/22/22
03/15/19
10
John

I have played for a number of years without spending any money.  You gain the materials needed from those made available within the game.

Join a clan and ask one of the experienced players to teach you how to play.

You mean living like a parasite inside a clan depending on others to make you bigger, begging for materials etc. Nope that's not my kind of style of playing.

Apr 22, 2022, 13:5804/22/22
06/21/17
1301

Have  been considering responding since you wrote about your 2nd CvC loss, and how much you are spending.

However there has been now more imput and more to cover.

First, I was surprised about you telling us your expenditure,it provoked a range of thoughts and on how best to respond.

You are allowed to play  the game as you wish, and spend likewise,  I'm sure the owners will be grateful that you do what they like.

The actual amount is neither here or there,it will be much to many, and little to others, who have spent or continue to spend much in order to maintain their goals.

One of the things I wondered is, if you would be better of using whatever you spend on bank offers to  just upgrade rather than trying to win events, but that is impossible for me to tell.

Your  situation reflects what you are doing and the current dynamics of the game. 

 I have wondered what it would be to start playing a new account now, as any advice given  might be  outdated.

Much of the game is currently off limits till you have 1 billion poiints and even at this level, the game expects you to do so much,whereas when I started playing this was not the case.

Many events were open, and winnable, levels simpler,  CvC entrance started at 5 million, there were no sieges to worry about.

We do not know how much you have spent to get were you are, or your present progress, but I wonder how long you have been playing,given your forum account is new.

It strikes me that, you are trying to run before you can walk,by partaking in features that were introduced to continue interest for those that had been playing a long time,and had already made considerable progress,and also to a play a game alone, one designed for group cooperation, so the game might not be right for you.

It can be played solo succesfully,those that are doing so now probably have time served, been in clans which they are still engaging with, so it's maybe not optimal for you to try right now.

If you are not doing well right now,you could just not play CvC,or destroy the stronghold, but you probaably know how that works from before you built it.





Apr 22, 2022, 16:0404/22/22
03/15/19
10
xyz

Have  been considering responding since you wrote about your 2nd CvC loss, and how much you are spending.

However there has been now more imput and more to cover.

First, I was surprised about you telling us your expenditure,it provoked a range of thoughts and on how best to respond.

You are allowed to play  the game as you wish, and spend likewise,  I'm sure the owners will be grateful that you do what they like.

The actual amount is neither here or there,it will be much to many, and little to others, who have spent or continue to spend much in order to maintain their goals.

One of the things I wondered is, if you would be better of using whatever you spend on bank offers to  just upgrade rather than trying to win events, but that is impossible for me to tell.

Your  situation reflects what you are doing and the current dynamics of the game. 

 I have wondered what it would be to start playing a new account now, as any advice given  might be  outdated.

Much of the game is currently off limits till you have 1 billion poiints and even at this level, the game expects you to do so much,whereas when I started playing this was not the case.

Many events were open, and winnable, levels simpler,  CvC entrance started at 5 million, there were no sieges to worry about.

We do not know how much you have spent to get were you are, or your present progress, but I wonder how long you have been playing,given your forum account is new.

It strikes me that, you are trying to run before you can walk,by partaking in features that were introduced to continue interest for those that had been playing a long time,and had already made considerable progress,and also to a play a game alone, one designed for group cooperation, so the game might not be right for you.

It can be played solo succesfully,those that are doing so now probably have time served, been in clans which they are still engaging with, so it's maybe not optimal for you to try right now.

If you are not doing well right now,you could just not play CvC,or destroy the stronghold, but you probaably know how that works from before you built it.





Thank you for the reply, but being new in the forum doesnt mean im new in the game.

I lost already 4 CVC battles in a row not just 2, my point is that i will keep loosing if they keep

placeing me against level 4/5 level strongholds im only level 3 stronghold.

 100 Dust and bam they hold 3 bar levels in the CVC battle, thats not fair, thats my point.

Resurrecting and healing will give them another bar, depending on how much warriors i make.

Is that so hard to understand what i try to say ?? 



Apr 22, 2022, 16:1504/22/22
03/15/19
10
xyz

At the risk of upsetting some by sticking my nose in where it is not appreciated.

First I am sure that John knows much more than I do about siege of the stronghold and tactics to use in competitions so I wouldn't try to out do him on that. 

Though I would add to  your findings, and his suggestions that you probably had an unfavourable draw, and that you were not that far ahead in the categories that you were leading in, such that if you had managed to score in the category where no points were gained that your opposition couldn't have still won the match  4:3 or better, than the win on points they got from  the 3:3 draw.


All this aside,I would suggest you think carefully about upgrading the stronghold to level 4, perhaps read the posts about players regretting advancing their game progresss in general, or upgrading the stronghold.

First thing I noticed was that you wrote ''I lost'' and ''My  stronghold'' which made me wonder if that's what you meant,and you are a one man clan,if this is the true my suggestion about  not upgrading could be more significant.

A one person clan, or even a clan with few members ,could find it more difficult to win on seige battles against a clan with more members with access to larger armies.

Also currently, not just your opponent, but any clan can attack a  stronghold siege ,which is something small clans have complained about.

Whether it is just  you in the clan, or many, when the draw is made you have to consider what are your chances of winning, there's not a lot of reasons for spending a lot of effort if it looks like you are outnumbered from the outset.

Maybe you do this already, maybe you win most of your matches, and this is the first time you lost a drawn match to a clan with a stronghold siege. If you upgrade to level 4 you could find  that  more  of your opponents have siege capability, and your wins decrease in number.

Final point can you obtain enough legendary gems for the precious dust that you need?

Except I forgot to add read this Plarium post.

''Tips for activating Siege status in the Stronghold'' 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/vikings-war-of-clans/666_game-database/200927_tips-for-activating-siege-status-in-the-stronghold/

Here is something  else I just looked at that John wrote  peviously on the subject of siege  and accumulating gems for  precious dust.

https://plarium.com/forum/en/vikings-war-of-clans/582_general-questions/205577_help----2/



Getting this on my plate did not help me either.

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Apr 23, 2022, 01:0604/23/22
06/21/17
1301


I understand perfectly.

You have a complaint about the opponents you have been drawn against in the CvC.

Additionaly you are drawn against clans with siege capability.

Both are legitimate  points and have been raised by other players.

I suspect there are other reasons behind your losses.

As to strongholds,I could build one, but choose not to do so, reaching targets now is difficult and though building a stronghold would enable me to play CvC again it would do me no good, because the event would be hard, and I would probably end up loosing. 

Apr 23, 2022, 19:0704/23/22
01/11/17
4649
VJAL

Thank you for the reply, but being new in the forum doesnt mean im new in the game.

I lost already 4 CVC battles in a row not just 2, my point is that i will keep loosing if they keep

placeing me against level 4/5 level strongholds im only level 3 stronghold.

 100 Dust and bam they hold 3 bar levels in the CVC battle, thats not fair, thats my point.

Resurrecting and healing will give them another bar, depending on how much warriors i make.

Is that so hard to understand what i try to say ?? 



Greetings, VJAL! I understand your concern, and have forwarded your feedback to our specialists.

However, I also agree with John's and xyz's advices about how to play. They are really experienced players and they are trying to help you win 🤗

Apr 26, 2022, 11:2404/26/22
09/15/15
219

VJAL: "You mean living like a parasite inside a clan depending on others to make you bigger, begging for materials etc. Nope that's not my kind of style of playing". 


 I too, like John, (as Ivar says- he is a very experienced player), play without spending money and without being a parasite. I am one of the smallest members (palace level 27) in our clan but I am routinely in the top two or 3 points earners,  I am usually in the top 50 in the personal competitions, in the top 25 recently (an easy way to double the gold rewards), and one of the top contributors of rss to our stronghold ( I farm ghost towns for rss), and maxing checkpoints will give you all the boost and resources you need .  You have a choice - spend time playing the game ...or spend money so you can still grow but dont have to spend time playing the game. Unfortunately neither method will help against lv4 sh sieges, ... just wait for the cvc draws you can win.