Some of you may like the Tournaments and rewards, and some may not. But I hope that you like the idea in general. We tried to create something interesting and unusual for youYou tried to find a way to put more coin into Plarium's coffers. That was all.
My Lords,
We're speaking about something brand new. Let's give it a chance.Nemanja said:
My Lords,
We're speaking about something brand new. Let's give it a chance.
I give anything a chance, but I resovle to common sense regarding participate in something or not. For me its very simple.
Do I stand to gain something from it and will I be better off afterwards than before. And if the answer is. NO, I just wont take part. I value my time and effort Nemanja. Its kinda like work, you work x hours, and if you got nothing to show for it. then better find something else to do.
I think many players share your opinion, Gadheras! Everyone has his own understanding of what is worth participating, and what is not. Our devs just try to give as much opportunities as they can. but the choice is always yours
I give anything a chance, but I resovle to common sense regarding participate in something or not. For me its very simple.
Do I stand to gain something from it and will I be better off afterwards than before. And if the answer is. NO, I just wont take part. I value my time and effort Nemanja. Its kinda like work, you work x hours, and if you got nothing to show for it. then better find something else to do.
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Gadheras said:
I think many players share your opinion, Gadheras! Everyone has his own understanding of what is worth participating, and what is not. Our devs just try to give as much opportunities as they can. but the choice is always yoursI give anything a chance, but I resovle to common sense regarding participate in something or not. For me its very simple.
Do I stand to gain something from it and will I be better off afterwards than before. And if the answer is. NO, I just wont take part. I value my time and effort Nemanja. Its kinda like work, you work x hours, and if you got nothing to show for it. then better find something else to do.
yes, now make us some opportunities where we will be better off after complete them, than before we started please -)
You had a countdown for the Battleground and PvP tourneys and the PVP did not come online. Only the BG tourney is on. Not only you guys create all sorts of tournaments where players are bound to loose more than what they are to gain you can't even stick to your own announcements. Way to go Plarium.
roadstar Pitbull said:
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Some of you may like the Tournaments and rewards, and some may not. But I hope that you like the idea in general. We tried to create something interesting and unusual for youNO,,,your planners are nuts. Too many running at once and no rewards worthwhile.
quick, unleash your credit card, revive your units, go again, and again and again..... uhm.... I dont know the whole thing seems so... hopeless.
Meanwhile another place...
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Some of you may like the Tournaments and rewards, and some may not. But I hope that you like the idea in general. We tried to create something interesting and unusual for you
by the fed back although i dont think any of palarium team actually listen ,it seems fairly clear that the majority do not like these tournaments
as many have said they are pointless to the vast majority of players ..when palarium have these tournaments ,they are a surge for a money grab .that is very clear to majority of players
problem with that is the money players that these are aimed at are a minority ..any product or sales targets do not market for the minority as they well know there chances of survival or selling the product is already doomed .of the 1k plus leagues i would bet 10% will participate to some degree
the majority will not .. is this good marketing for the game ?Tastiger said:
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Some of you may like the Tournaments and rewards, and some may not. But I hope that you like the idea in general. We tried to create something interesting and unusual for youby the fed back although i dont think any of palarium team actually listen ,it seems fairly clear that the majority do not like these tournaments
as many have said they are pointless to the vast majority of players ..when palarium have these tournaments ,they are a surge for a money grab .that is very clear to majority of players
problem with that is the money players that these are aimed at are a minority ..any product or sales targets do not market for the minority as they well know there chances of survival or selling the product is already doomed .of the 1k plus leagues i would bet 10% will participate to some degree
the majority will not .. is this good marketing for the game ?
doesn,t the topic say pvp and bg.?
without pvp this game is a total pit of boredom..
Tastiger said:
doesn,t the topic say pvp and bg.?
without pvp this game is a total pit of boredom..
lord tastiger
pvp tournaments are running right now
the thing is if you run both BG and pvp events together and each have 5 heats it will be chaotic and the servers may not handle it
Lord Turok,
participating in tournaments or not is personal choice since they are not obligatory.Nemanja said:
Lord Turok,
participating in tournaments or not is personal choice since they are not obligatory.
Doesn't really answer his question of HOW though.
Lord Gadheras,
if you look closely you will find both in that post... a question and an answer.Nemanja said:
Lord Gadheras,
if you look closely you will find both in that post... a question and an answer.
He raises a very much valid point. "how can we compete in all of these tournaments? it takes months to rebuild armies"
We are getting one tournament after the other throw into our faces. The only option you really have to "recharge" between is spend a lot of coins. You are right, its not obligatory to take part and you free to chose if you want too. But the whole thing gets rather pointless when less and less people able to take part as their armies is spent.
We are not given enough rest in between, even those that want to take part, they end up not able to, without spend a fortune to rev units.
at this stage of the game's decay, there isnt much else to do.Lord Turok,
participating in tournaments or not is personal choice since they are not obligatory.
The heat system is terrible, why have so many things running at the same time when the tier system for PVP and BG in one event over 3 days was fine, to me this seems like another attempt to reduce rewards and complicate something that wasn't broken
Nemanja said:
Lord Turok,
participating in tournaments or not is personal choice since they are not obligatory.
True, they are not obligatory.
However if Plarium wants to make money in a sustainable way from this game, they need to provide a) interesting gameplay and b) a POSITIVE incentive to spend money, preferably regularly. Part of this is providing tournaments in which the majority of players both can and want to participate.
As it stands, the current excess of tournaments in which most players either cannot or do not want to participate either because they are not appropriately tiered (a level 50 can clearly not compete against level 80's or 90's) or provide insufficient reward for troops or time invested will serve only to further discourage players from participating.
It would be better to provide fewer regular tournaments which reward players for competing either with a slight profit or maybe a small overall loss, but with better quality units than they can make, or can be made. Tiering for the top prizes could either be based on level/ pvp points/ bg points or on previous performance in the competitions. Tiering for the rewards could be selected from options - you may want to commit fewer troops and select smaller reward increments with lower tier troops such as cavalry, or commit larger amounts of troops per unit rewarded to get better quality units such as occult, eldritch and legendaries.
The core of regular tournaments such as battleground and pvp could be supplemented with other LESS FREQUENT tournaments on rotation. Provision of regular and predictable tournaments which players can work towards and which reward effort encourages game participation, player retention and ultimately spending. Without participation and player retention, player spending and ultimately game profitability is lost.
Camulos said:
...It would be better to provide fewer regular tournaments which reward players for competing either with a slight profit or maybe a small overall loss,...
When I started playing you could yellow bar BGs for exp in experience tournaments an kill them for points in battleground tournaments. Which was a synergy between tournaments you are talking about. First they changed battleground tournaments in a way that it doesnt work anymore and lately they nerfed yellow barring. You can see the trend, dont you?
