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Major Feature Update! League Fortresses!

Major Feature Update! League Fortresses!

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Feb 18, 2016, 16:1702/18/16
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It seems pretty clear:

Infirmary,

Warning system,

More milestone levels (Maybe 11, 14, 17 - I'm sure the upgrade time increases exponentially, so the interval shouldn't increase as well),

defense bonus (attacking another leagues fortress should be very risky)

defense statistics.

By the way, I hope weekly top ten players get stacks of glory points.  

Feb 18, 2016, 16:4902/18/16
Feb 18, 2016, 16:55(edited)
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Lord Oberon said:


Would it be possible to incorporate a way for more players to contribute sapphires towards upgrades? Perhaps some form of guild sapphire bank would serve this purpose. 

My Lord, this sounds good in theory, but in reality this feature will get abused by alts one way or another. 

this sounds like alts welcome but only if they pay, not see improvements in any direction as not to encourage alt, if you prefer $ 100 every 100 players instead of $ 1 every 10,000 players leads me draw conclusions= very few and short-term players

anyway nice addition but going the wrong way for f2p, this f2p (frustration-to-play) requires 1 year(31,536K seconds) to build 1 second to destroy or pay! This is the ratio 31,536K to 1.... same to:  pay to F2P

in this direction add more things (incomplete) and you will have more complaints

Feb 18, 2016, 22:5402/18/16
Dec 29, 2018, 16:52(edited)
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Alts are not permitted, but back onto the topic of a league bank for sapphires,

I think it should be allowed but with restrictions, most obvious is a 7 day rule like with tournaments... Because it was the same reason the 7 day rule was added to league tournaments.
Feb 19, 2016, 12:3202/19/16
Feb 19, 2016, 12:47(edited)
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Hey, 


serious Plarium ? League Beacon Event was 70 Glory points at all ? i would accept it when 70 from ea Member but this is really a JOKE!

Also now Solo Event there are no Glory Points. so for all small Leagues wihtout Saps investing you get not enough glory points for next level.. 

except maybe next year ;) 




Lord OberonCharacter
Feb 19, 2016, 12:5102/19/16
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As I mentioned earlier, upgrading a Fortress isn't an easy or a quick task. It's a long term challenge for an entire league to work on. 
Feb 19, 2016, 12:5802/19/16
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It's a long term challenge for 5+ years ? if you don't invest Saphires its mission impossible


Lets see we got 70 Points.. means 200 Leagues Event for 14000 Glory Points if we reach the 70 in ea Event. For Level 5 to 6 you need 16800 Points. 


have fun on the long term challenge.. 


Feb 19, 2016, 13:3802/19/16
06/21/15
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We saw all of your responses. We also understand we can see the units in our fortress. What we can't see is the total defense points there. There is no good reason to withhold that item for us. We believe there is enough sapphire purchases involved for you to give in on that one item. Why make us work so hard to determine the actual amount of units in points in our Fortress. Please add that feature for us. 

Thanks
Lord OberonCharacter
Feb 19, 2016, 13:4702/19/16
Feb 19, 2016, 13:51(edited)
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You cannot be so sure about the future amounts of Points that you will receive or the frequency of the Events and Tournaments. 

The feature has been just launched and everything about it is subject to change. 
Lord OberonCharacter
Feb 19, 2016, 13:5102/19/16
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Tommy Lee said:


We saw all of your responses. We also understand we can see the units in our fortress. What we can't see is the total defense points there. There is no good reason to withhold that item for us. We believe there is enough sapphire purchases involved for you to give in on that one item. Why make us work so hard to determine the actual amount of units in points in our Fortress. Please add that feature for us. 

Thanks

Apparently you haven't seen all of my responses. In one or two of them I mentioned that we are working on the fix that would make total defense points of a Fortress visible. 

Please rest assured that this feature will be added in one of the next updates. 

Feb 19, 2016, 16:2902/19/16
08/22/14
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A Great Add-on

Is there Tweaking that could be made, Sure

But this is a Great Start
Feb 19, 2016, 21:1802/19/16
08/22/14
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I noticed that my Allies dont Get my Spy Reports in our Herald from Spying Fortresses

Just to through that out there also :)
Feb 19, 2016, 22:1402/19/16
Dec 29, 2018, 16:51(edited)
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Lord Oberon said:


As I mentioned earlier, upgrading a Fortress isn't an easy or a quick task. It's a long term challenge for an entire league to work on. 

It may be but we feel lied to about the tournament rewards issued. Up until now every league member qualifying for the reward of a league tournament received the stated reward. Today this didn't happen we each only received a fraction of the glory points that we had been expecting. The higher the number of qualifying member the smaller fraction we each received.


This should be resolved prior to any further league tournaments.
Feb 20, 2016, 00:1802/20/16
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Please, the Community Managers are VERY aware of the complaints in the acquisition of glory points and I can only assume they have taken the information to the developers and made it a serious suggestion.  
Feb 20, 2016, 15:0902/20/16
Feb 20, 2016, 15:44(edited)
12/13/14
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When will we be getting Fortress Knockdown Tournaments?

No doubt the Glory Points and Tomes from new tournaments will help a lot.


90 Tomes from League Quests every day can soon build up, allowing us to upgrade our units quickly.

Once we get forts to level 8 and a few unit groups upgraded then the effort will seem worthwhile, but upgrading beyond level 8 may take years :)


Edit : Tomes cost 16 sapphires to buy but there is no button or slider to choose how many to buy - this is a huge omission.

Lord OberonCharacter
Feb 22, 2016, 10:1002/22/16
Feb 22, 2016, 10:11(edited)
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So 70 points for the league quest wasn't a bug. 

This amount has been revisited. You will see much bigger rewards in the future Tournaments. 

I appreciate your candor and eloquence, Lord DJMoody. 

Feb 22, 2016, 10:1502/22/16
Dec 29, 2018, 17:05(edited)
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Lord Oberon said:

So 70 points for the league quest wasn't a bug. 

This amount has been revisited. You will see much bigger rewards in the future Tournaments. 

I appreciate your candor and eloquence, Lord DJMoody. 

Huzzah! Adrenalini!
Lord OberonCharacter
Feb 23, 2016, 13:5902/23/16
Feb 23, 2016, 14:00(edited)
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Daniel Higgins aka USCG Assassin, founder of the US Gaming Clan and a valued member of the Stormfall community, has created a special tutorial video about Fortresses. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/_PyDEUM1e4E


Mar 3, 2016, 21:0003/03/16
03/01/15
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Lord Oberon said:



I think that leagues should set long term goals. Upgrading the Fortress shouldn't be immediate. It's a task for an entire league to work on. At the same time this is a realistic task worth accomplishing. 

Lord Oberon,

That sounds great in theory, but the problem is that there are "safe" zones only at lvl 5 and 8.  There are some very powerful leagues out there who may choose to attack fortresses in pursuit of their own goals.  After all, anything that isn't 5 or 8 is almost guaranteed to have lots of def sitting there...I can see that being a big kick me sign during PvP tournaments when a league is pushing hard for first.  

With the time it takes to upgrade (if you don't pay), it sounds to me like the feature is designed to force you to cash or to constantly have your hard work downgraded by stronger opponents who are hitting your stuff in pursuit of their own goals.
Mar 3, 2016, 21:1403/03/16
03/01/15
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Lord Oberon said:


I don't really see how that can be abused big time by alts.

1. Create a dozen of alts, level them up, receive Sapphires from tutorial quests.

2. Accept your alts to your league, deposit their Sapphires to the bank, kick your alts from the league

3. Repeat till the desired result is achieved.

This sounds like a time-consuming scheme but you won't believe what some players do in attempts to gain an unfair advantage. 

I'm not saying that everyone is like this, but we'd rather not risk creating an environment where such stunts would be possible. 

I can see how alt abuse could become a problem, but it seems there may be ways to reduce/prevent it without treating all players like criminals.  That is essentially what you're doing, after all.  You are saying that because a minority cannot be trusted, all of us must pay the price.  For what its worth, here is my suggestion:

There is already a mechanic blocking new members of the league from gaining league rewards for a set amount of time.  You could incorporate something similar for making contributions to a league bank.  Anyone donating would have to be a member of the league for 3 months.  Considering the limited league roster, that would drastically limit/slow that particular form of cheating.

If that is not a good enough control for the devs, then I would suggest what another poster already said:  Make donation to league bank an option you can do only when purchasing sapphires.  That would guarantee that every sapphire going into the league bank was paid for with real money.

Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Mar 4, 2016, 10:2703/04/16
09/17/15
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Red said:

Lord Oberon said:



I think that leagues should set long term goals. Upgrading the Fortress shouldn't be immediate. It's a task for an entire league to work on. At the same time this is a realistic task worth accomplishing. 

Lord Oberon,

That sounds great in theory, but the problem is that there are "safe" zones only at lvl 5 and 8.  There are some very powerful leagues out there who may choose to attack fortresses in pursuit of their own goals.  After all, anything that isn't 5 or 8 is almost guaranteed to have lots of def sitting there...I can see that being a big kick me sign during PvP tournaments when a league is pushing hard for first.  

With the time it takes to upgrade (if you don't pay), it sounds to me like the feature is designed to force you to cash or to constantly have your hard work downgraded by stronger opponents who are hitting your stuff in pursuit of their own goals.
Actually, to upgrade the Fortress to higher levels, you need to downgrade the Fortress of the same level. So, even the strongest Alliances need strong enemies. So it's impossible that there will be only a few high-level Fortresses.