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Plarium Nerfed the Champion duel Tournament. AGAIN

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Sep 10, 2020, 06:0309/10/20
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Plarium Nerfed the Champion duel Tournament. AGAIN

You now need an estimated of more 9000 points to get a level Holy bond. This is from the traditional 7060 points. 




Not only that, but the drop rate of bonds has been criminally reduced. 




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Sep 10, 2020, 11:4609/10/20
07/10/14
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Just to be correct is just under 8540 (a bit less than 9000).

They randomly changed the even't offer/package to 40 recharges, which is back to 400 now. But the event is now increase in emerald / recharge cost so that a single package is no longer enough to finish the event.

I think it's clear they are trying different configurations to try and push more revenue. The only silver lining is that the current configuration may therefore be different next time.

I do think, they believe we are stupid and don't notice what they are doing.

At the moment:

- They brought us the champions quest event to try and make it cost money for people to finish the moon quests.

- the last two weeks they removed the combination of events that had made holy bonds / Grade V champs very reasonable to cbtain without spending money.

- and now this tweaking with the duel event

I don't believe these things are co-incidence. It seems they are trying to experiment around the edges to squeeze more money out of the game.

It's a risky approach. The game is already one of the most aggressively montitised games in it's genre. Playing with things risks causing unhappiness, alientation of players and can lead to reduced player numbers.

The only reliable long term way to improve profitability is to add quality new content that attracts and retains more players and encourages them to increase their avg hours played per week.

AlinaCommunity Manager
Sep 10, 2020, 13:0509/10/20
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Oracle said:

You now need an estimated of more 9000 points to get a level Holy bond. This is from the traditional 7060 points. 




Not only that, but the drop rate of bonds has been criminally reduced. 


Hello, Oracle! Thanks for sharing it here. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised you've only noticed that the number of points was changed. Because we've also added a bit more rewards. Please look closer 
Sep 10, 2020, 13:1709/10/20
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FYI the rewards of value to players are the holy bond and the Grade V and the hunt item.

Yes the recharges and emeralds are useful as they make a contribution to the cost of running the event. But people don't play the event so they can get back a fraction of what it costs, they play it for Holy Bond and Orb.

So what matters in the rewards is unchanged. People will just see more cost for the same reward (in fact less reward in this one as the hunt item is only 2 days and more often than not it 7 days).

PS anything that isn't Grade V related now is of little to no value to most people (the point in the game where the non-coiners had to scrabble with blue and purple champs is long gone due to the champ event combo's over the last 3/4 months).
Sep 10, 2020, 16:0209/10/20
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Alina said:

Hello, Oracle! Thanks for sharing it here. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised you've only noticed that the number of points was changed. Because we've also added a bit more rewards. Please look closer 

I only need a holy bond. I will be very happy to play the tournament for no other rewards other than the holy bond. The only help you could have provided is adding another Holy bond after the one at 7060 points, and selling a package that will enable layers to complete the tournament and get the holy bond.

Remove all the other rewards, and just leave the holy bond at 7060 points.

BiohazarDModerator
Sep 13, 2020, 19:0609/13/20
10/04/13
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DJ Moody said:

FYI the rewards of value to players are the holy bond and the Grade V and the hunt item.

Yes the recharges and emeralds are useful as they make a contribution to the cost of running the event. But people don't play the event so they can get back a fraction of what it costs, they play it for Holy Bond and Orb.

So what matters in the rewards is unchanged. People will just see more cost for the same reward (in fact less reward in this one as the hunt item is only 2 days and more often than not it 7 days).

PS anything that isn't Grade V related now is of little to no value to most people (the point in the game where the non-coiners had to scrabble with blue and purple champs is long gone due to the champ event combo's over the last 3/4 months).
Yeah, if they added an extra grade V orb or two to the rewards I'd be fine with the points increase.  The lower level stuff like epic bonds isn't really useful anymore since I already have maxed out purple champs.  
AlinaCommunity Manager
Sep 14, 2020, 10:5609/14/20
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Oracle said:

Alina said:

Hello, Oracle! Thanks for sharing it here. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised you've only noticed that the number of points was changed. Because we've also added a bit more rewards. Please look closer 

I only need a holy bond. I will be very happy to play the tournament for no other rewards other than the holy bond. The only help you could have provided is adding another Holy bond after the one at 7060 points, and selling a package that will enable layers to complete the tournament and get the holy bond.

Remove all the other rewards, and just leave the holy bond at 7060 points.

Thanks! Unfortunately, it won't go. One more thing I forgot to ask you. Have you noticed anything else during the tournament?
Sep 15, 2020, 22:0709/15/20
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Alina said:


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Thanks! Unfortunately, it won't go. One more thing I forgot to ask you. Have you noticed anything else during the tournament?
Hi Alina... i had the impression i did those points much faster...maybe it s just me but i never missed a duel champ (won 99% of them) and i know exactly how it works.
BiohazarDModerator
Sep 15, 2020, 22:5609/15/20
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Constantin Catalin said:

Alina said:


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Thanks! Unfortunately, it won't go. One more thing I forgot to ask you. Have you noticed anything else during the tournament?
Hi Alina... i had the impression i did those points much faster...maybe it s just me but i never missed a duel champ (won 99% of them) and i know exactly how it works.
I didn't notice any difference in point scoring speed, they did increase the tournament time from 3 days to 4 though.  
AlinaCommunity Manager
Sep 18, 2020, 09:3609/18/20
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Constantin Catalin said:

Alina said:


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Thanks! Unfortunately, it won't go. One more thing I forgot to ask you. Have you noticed anything else during the tournament?
Hi Alina... i had the impression i did those points much faster...maybe it s just me but i never missed a duel champ (won 99% of them) and i know exactly how it works.
Hello, my Lord! Yep, that's right! Now it's a bit easier to earn points; you're very attentive. I'm glad you've noticed it 
Sep 18, 2020, 16:2009/18/20
02/20/17
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Alina said:


Constantin Catalin said:


Alina said:



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Thanks! Unfortunately, it won't go. One more thing I forgot to ask you. Have you noticed anything else during the tournament?
Hi Alina... i had the impression i did those points much faster...maybe it s just me but i never missed a duel champ (won 99% of them) and i know exactly how it works.
Hello, my Lord! Yep, that's right! Now it's a bit easier to earn points; you're very attentive. I'm glad you've noticed it 

велике спасибі-Thank you !!

 
Sep 19, 2020, 11:0509/19/20
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4 Days is not a benefit. 

FYI the sensible way to attempt to complete the event is by auto solo-hunt. An extra day doesn't change that and make it possible to complete manually - it would have to be many more days for that.

So the extra day just:

- increased the length of auto-hunts you will have to run to win your group (i.e increasing the cost by 33%).

So that is a double whammy to the cost securing the only valuable rewards also having gone up.

And back at you - what else changed in the event Alina (because what is stated so far in the thread aren't the only changes). Do you know the answer to that?


Sep 20, 2020, 01:1309/20/20
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It feels like they adjusted the solo-hunt prize drop rate upwards. Whether it's related to the champ used or not, I'm just guessing. Next time I'll use a rank 7. 
Sep 20, 2020, 17:1109/20/20
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Alina said:


Constantin Catalin said:


Alina said:



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Thanks! Unfortunately, it won't go. One more thing I forgot to ask you. Have you noticed anything else during the tournament?
Hi Alina... i had the impression i did those points much faster...maybe it s just me but i never missed a duel champ (won 99% of them) and i know exactly how it works.
Hello, my Lord! Yep, that's right! Now it's a bit easier to earn points; you're very attentive. I'm glad you've noticed it 

I don't know if this is true or not. I start the hunt immediately on Tuesday and expect to have completed the required points by Thursday morning. This is when I noticed the changes. So I am not sure. 

If there was an increase in critical points chances, then great. But I didn't notice it. I only care about the Holy bond. The other rewards are not necessary.

I get my hunt activators from the league brawl. Which is a perfect 2 days? The time needed to complete 7060 points. As for small rewards like orbs. Orbs are important when you have champions. I don't.

So maybe I will care about orbs when I have a druid and a calivier. 
Sep 20, 2020, 17:2409/20/20
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These changes have drastically changed my spending pattern. Now I have to look into buying sapphire packs in order to increase the level of my Shrine of Summoning to increase champion performance. This could take months, if not years of saving sapphires. 

After doing that, then I can work on getting necessary grade 5 champions. 

Let's hope this tournament is not fixed, and better ones will be implemented in the futeure. 

AlinaCommunity Manager
Sep 21, 2020, 11:3309/21/20
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DJ Moody said:

4 Days is not a benefit. 

FYI the sensible way to attempt to complete the event is by auto solo-hunt. An extra day doesn't change that and make it possible to complete manually - it would have to be many more days for that.

So the extra day just:

- increased the length of auto-hunts you will have to run to win your group (i.e increasing the cost by 33%).

So that is a double whammy to the cost securing the only valuable rewards also having gone up.

And back at you - what else changed in the event Alina (because what is stated so far in the thread aren't the only changes). Do you know the answer to that?

Hello, DJ Moody! No, that's it. I've already listed all changes in this thread. Cheers!
AlinaCommunity Manager
Sep 21, 2020, 11:3409/21/20
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Oracle said:

These changes have drastically changed my spending pattern. Now I have to look into buying sapphire packs in order to increase the level of my Shrine of Summoning to increase champion performance. This could take months, if not years of saving sapphires. 

After doing that, then I can work on getting necessary grade 5 champions. 

Let's hope this tournament is not fixed, and better ones will be implemented in the futeure. 

Hello, Oracle! Yep, that's right! The event isn't fixed. There might be some changes in future. Cheers! 
Sep 21, 2020, 12:0009/21/20
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Yeah there was another massive change. Limad hit the mail on the head.

The bugged points drops got fixed.

The avg points per send should be 1. And with a lvl 40 champ and it's critical chance of 40%, that should increase by 0.4 per send. So in total using a top champ should have yielded 1.4 points per spend on average. In reality something was bugged and you only got around 0.9 per send.

That got fixed at the same time they changed the event around. You get the proper amount of points now.

BiohazarDModerator
Sep 21, 2020, 15:5209/21/20
Sep 21, 2020, 15:53(edited)
10/04/13
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DJ Moody said:

Yeah there was another massive change. Limad hit the mail on the head.

The bugged points drops got fixed.

The avg points per send should be 1. And with a lvl 40 champ and it's critical chance of 40%, that should increase by 0.4 per send. So in total using a top champ should have yielded 1.4 points per spend on average. In reality something was bugged and you only got around 0.9 per send.

That got fixed at the same time they changed the event around. You get the proper amount of points now.

Oh cool.  If that's the case then the tournament should take about the same number of sends as before when using a level 40 champ.  Will have to wait until the next one starts to test it though.  
Sep 21, 2020, 20:2709/21/20
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I forgot I had taken these screenshots from last time. Just sharing in case anyone finds them useful. Prize drop rate of about 1.5 per hit using the auto-hunt. 




Sep 23, 2020, 21:1609/23/20
Sep 23, 2020, 21:48(edited)
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Looks like the Duel is back the the original number of prizes required for now. I played reasonably hard over the last couple of days - about 1500 prizes were gained manually - and I ended up with about 900 emeralds more than I started with. That's without buying the 350 / 400 refresh package. Good to see the 7 Day hunt back. Pity there's still only 1 Orb on offer though. 

I guess if the first reward for the next Duel is 200 energy, then it might be a sign that it's going to need 8500 prizes to finish. 

And the prize drop rate seems to be holding up. 1.46 this time.