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May 15, 2018, 20:3505/15/18
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Medivh said:


Oracle said:


Alina Phoenix said:



The majority of players, mostly veterans, are in the view that any sort multiplier feature will negatively affect the game balance. There have been many post both in the forum and on FB of players from Plarium.com voicing that they don't need this feature implemented. Did Plarium receive this concern. 

It is immediately clear that the said player complaining about this feature is doing so because he is bored, not that he want this feature, which will not benefit the game implemented. 

Maybe we should have a referundum, to see if we really need this kind of feature before it is implemented

Bonuses are multipleier, and the bigger your units the more incriment is added. a 100 million defense might grow to 150 million, but a 150K defense does not add any incencetive when bobuses are added


Good evening Lord! Pardon me, but I couldn`t understand you at 100%. If you refer to me as bored of the game, you are completely wrong. Because I am daily online with my league, having fun ingame. I wanted to point out that if Plarium wants to keep us playing the game, sooner or later they will have to do something - to introduce a new feature(s), and I believe the time has come. I`ll give you another reason why I insist and why I really hope Plarium will introduce new features to us, is that I am playing since late 2015 and so far I`ve seen gaming improvement in the stuff Plarium has implemented, but if we have to be honest....we haven`t seen anything new on our servers from kinda long time :)

New content is fine as long as NOT, new over powered pay to win items adding to the gap between the average joe and the big spenders. Here have a new feature, oh wait it come with a price tag of 10 bucks, and if you want to want to do it again, another 10 bucks please... keep it coming...  pay up.... MONEY.... for the purpose of balance..... If you think a good new feature is a straw into your wallet that keep sucking.... then I pity you :/


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May 16, 2018, 01:4405/16/18
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Medivh said:

Oracle said:

Alina Phoenix said:



The majority of players, mostly veterans, are in the view that any sort multiplier feature will negatively affect the game balance. There have been many post both in the forum and on FB of players from Plarium.com voicing that they don't need this feature implemented. Did Plarium receive this concern. 

It is immediately clear that the said player complaining about this feature is doing so because he is bored, not that he want this feature, which will not benefit the game implemented. 

Maybe we should have a referundum, to see if we really need this kind of feature before it is implemented

Bonuses are multipleier, and the bigger your units the more incriment is added. a 100 million defense might grow to 150 million, but a 150K defense does not add any incencetive when bobuses are added


Good evening Lord! Pardon me, but I couldn`t understand you at 100%. If you refer to me as bored of the game, you are completely wrong. Because I am daily online with my league, having fun ingame. I wanted to point out that if Plarium wants to keep us playing the game, sooner or later they will have to do something - to introduce a new feature(s), and I believe the time has come. I`ll give you another reason why I insist and why I really hope Plarium will introduce new features to us, is that I am playing since late 2015 and so far I`ve seen gaming improvement in the stuff Plarium has implemented, but if we have to be honest....we haven`t seen anything new on our servers from kinda long time :)
Exactly, we've all seen that every time a new feature is implemented the game gets considerably better and more fun.  Thanks for your suggestion, lord. 
May 16, 2018, 06:0105/16/18
May 16, 2018, 06:19(edited)
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BiohazarD said:



Exactly, we've all seen that every time a new feature is implemented the game gets considerably better and more fun.  Thanks for your suggestion, lord. 

Keep going in that direction and soon Plarium will require you to swear on oath that the earth is flat, and Alina is the North pole of this ''earth''.

You can't ignore all evidence out there. No evidence suggest that the game has got better with new features, contrary evidence show, beyond any doubts,  that the game has gotten worse with new every new added feature. 

Maybe you're ignoring all those complaining people in KoK chat, maybe you take DJ, like me, as a mere complainer. Cause he is the guy who has been posting here for years showing how the game has got worse. 

You're beyond saving, hope those 9K sapphires are worth it. 

djmoody said:

From what I have seen and read, champions are:

- ridiculously overpowered (bonuses that multiply on top of all other bonuses) 

- top rank ones are only going to be owned by coiners (except for a handful of very lucky players that get stupidly rare drops)

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-discussion/102093_upcoming-debacle/

May 16, 2018, 06:1105/16/18
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Medivh said:

Good evening Lord! Pardon me, but I couldn`t understand you at 100%. If you refer to me as bored of the game, you are completely wrong. Because I am daily online with my league, having fun ingame. I wanted to point out that if Plarium wants to keep us playing the game, sooner or later they will have to do something - to introduce a new feature(s), and I believe the time has come. I`ll give you another reason why I insist and why I really hope Plarium will introduce new features to us, is that I am playing since late 2015 and so far I`ve seen gaming improvement in the stuff Plarium has implemented, but if we have to be honest....we haven`t seen anything new on our servers from kinda long time :)

This Statement is false

 I wanted to point out that if Plarium wants to keep us playing the game, sooner or later they will have to do something - to introduce a new feature(s)

There is no evidence that Plarium need to keep players playing the game, this clause, even though you threw it to entice some emotions, is largely false. Contrary, Plarium upper management, has been making statements since 2014 that they don't believe in PC based game, and they are going to follow the money and migrate to the world of mobile gaming, and has been doing so for years. They cut bug management team on Plarium.com by up to 80%, got rid of many support team personnel and cut back on forum spending and CMs. They are taking over 2 years to complete a unity migration, because most of their developers are making new mobile games. 

The only evidence is that features are implemented to cut back gamers number, and make money.


May 16, 2018, 12:2805/16/18
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Lord Oracle, nice to see you're active on Forum again 

Let me reply to the concerns you brought up here:

You can't ignore all evidence out there. No evidence suggest that the game has got better with new features, contrary evidence show, beyond any doubts, that the game has gotten worse with new every new added feature. 

Have you ever thought how often we tell about the positive feedback we had regarding this or that service? I'm not talking about games only, but about any service you receive or use in your real life. I don't think it happens too often. And it's not only about us, but about the majority of people.

Negative emotions give us stronger motivation to come and talk about things we don't like. 

I don't ignore there are negative comments regarding Champions, but there are positive ones as well. Here you go with the example:



Yes, they are not so often because people used to keep some positive emotions to themselves. That's why when reading feedback regarding this or that feature, you caт draw conclusion it's only the negative one.

There is no evidence that Plarium need to keep players playing the game, this clause, even though you threw it to entice some emotions, is largely false. Contrary, Plarium upper management, has been making statements since 2014 that they don't believe in PC based game, and they are going to follow the money and migrate to the world of mobile gaming, and has been doing so for years. They cut bug management team on Plarium.com by up to 80%, got rid of many support team personnel and cut back on forum spending and CMs. They are taking over 2 years to complete a unity migration, because most of their developers are making new mobile games. 

We're working on the new engine for our games to be ready when Flash will stop working. Isn't it one of the main evidence we don't plan to close our browser games? 

Why would we create a separate team who is working on this engine if we shifted focus to mobile games?

Plarium is a big company and we can afford developing mobile direction and keep on working on plarium.com games.

I understand you want to show us you have a lot of inside information (like the number of our developers and our main focuses), but please let's avoid sharing false information and giving reasons for other players' confusion.


Keep going in that direction and soon Plarium will require you to swear on oath that the earth is flat, and Alina is the North pole of this ''earth''.

And I just can't go by this new role you're going to give me :) I'm ready to take it with all solemnity


May 16, 2018, 12:4205/16/18
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Alina, well, you know... If Plarium created a poll and then made it pop up when players login to the game and asked question regarding customer satisfaction, view on features and such and then published the results of such a poll for all to see, we would have a rather greater view of the actual picture than comments from the "fanboys" and the ones on the more negative side (which I probably belong in, but I do give credit where credit is due when I see something I belive is good). 

The reality of things is, its the "silent majority" that never have their voice heard, it come down to the loud voices of the NAY and JAY crowd who often find their ways to things like forums and other social media. Activity on forums and social media in general when it come to games does reflect the population as whole though. Decline in use have a great impact, because the "silent majority" that never get involved they just fade out, no one really notice for most parts. The most vocal ones tends to be the ones hanging in the longest, hoping for changes to rekindle the fire, but without the silent majority that is needed to make the fire going, there wouldn't be anything to rekindle.




May 16, 2018, 14:2205/16/18
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I will say honestly we can't really complain about features we haven't seen yet but Plarium's history of making most new things for the benefit of spenders is what taints our opinions.
May 18, 2018, 08:5105/18/18
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Gadheras said:



Alina, well, you know... If Plarium created a poll and then made it pop up when players login to the game and asked question regarding customer satisfaction, view on features and such and then published the results of such a poll for all to see, we would have a rather greater view of the actual picture than comments from the "fanboys" and the ones on the more negative side (which I probably belong in, but I do give credit where credit is due when I see something I belive is good). 

The reality of things is, its the "silent majority" that never have their voice heard, it come down to the loud voices of the NAY and JAY crowd who often find their ways to things like forums and other social media. Activity on forums and social media in general when it come to games does reflect the population as whole though. Decline in use have a great impact, because the "silent majority" that never get involved they just fade out, no one really notice for most parts. The most vocal ones tends to be the ones hanging in the longest, hoping for changes to rekindle the fire, but without the silent majority that is needed to make the fire going, there wouldn't be anything to rekindle.

Hello, Lord Gadheras!

To tell the truth, I really liked your idea of making a poll that will appear either during game loading or once it's loaded.

Next week I will have meeting with my Team Leader and I'm going to discuss this idea with her. I think it can be a great source of the additional statistics in the number value. Like rate this update from 1 to 10, and if you want to leave any other additional comment, you're welcome to post on Forum (like to the Game discussion thread).

May 18, 2018, 08:5705/18/18
02/29/16
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roadstar Pitbull said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Lord Oracle, nice to see you're active on Forum again 

Let me reply to the concerns you brought up here:

You can't ignore all evidence out there. No evidence suggest that the game has got better with new features, contrary evidence show, beyond any doubts, that the game has gotten worse with new every new added feature. 

Have you ever thought how often we tell about the positive feedback we had regarding this or that service? I'm not talking about games only, but about any service you receive or use in your real life. I don't think it happens too often. And it's not only about us, but about the majority of people.

Negative emotions give us stronger motivation to come and talk about things we don't like. 

I don't ignore there are negative comments regarding Champions, but there are positive ones as well. Here you go with the example:


Yes, they are not so often because people used to keep some positive emotions to themselves. That's why when reading feedback regarding this or that feature, you caт draw conclusion it's only the negative one.

There is no evidence that Plarium need to keep players playing the game, this clause, even though you threw it to entice some emotions, is largely false. Contrary, Plarium upper management, has been making statements since 2014 that they don't believe in PC based game, and they are going to follow the money and migrate to the world of mobile gaming, and has been doing so for years. They cut bug management team on Plarium.com by up to 80%, got rid of many support team personnel and cut back on forum spending and CMs. They are taking over 2 years to complete a unity migration, because most of their developers are making new mobile games. 

We're working on the new engine for our games to be ready when Flash will stop working. Isn't it one of the main evidence we don't plan to close our browser games? 

Why would we create a separate team who is working on this engine if we shifted focus to mobile games?

Plarium is a big company and we can afford developing mobile direction and keep on working on plarium.com games.

I understand you want to show us you have a lot of inside information (like the number of our developers and our main focuses), but please let's avoid sharing false information and giving reasons for other players' confusion.


Keep going in that direction and soon Plarium will require you to swear on oath that the earth is flat, and Alina is the North pole of this ''earth''.

And I just can't go by this new role you're going to give me :) I'm ready to take it with all solemnity


Is that part of Plarium's 'official' stance?? "We can count on those that do not post/reply."


Care to comment on how that is going? From the forum view point it is on the edge of being a complete failure.

And as to mobile games, that was a major point of purchase for the current owners.

Multiple teams is not the real issue,,, seemingly competent teams or members is. How many things were screwed up with the last update verses the "improvements".

I could comment of your 'fridged promotion', but I'll let others fill in the blanks for themselves.

Hello, Roadstar!

> Is that part of Plarium's 'official' stance?? "We can count on those that do not post/reply."

No, it's not part of our official stance. My point was that those who have something negative to say are usually more eager actually come and say. Still, our analytics can see not only feedback posted on Forum but also the actual interaction of players with the feature. And very often despite negative feedback we have on Forum/in the Group, players' interaction with the feature is very high. 

May 18, 2018, 14:0105/18/18
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I dont think any update is going to fix what people are talking about. The problem is people who try to play the game dont get credit. Only the big spenders get the credit cause they out buy what is possible in game.


If Plarium would limit the spending, it be the only balance to game and cut off items that could be bought. There is no real game progression to give credit to who actually "plays" game.
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May 19, 2018, 18:0005/19/18
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roadstar Pitbull said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, Roadstar!

> Is that part of Plarium's 'official' stance?? "We can count on those that do not post/reply."

No, it's not part of our official stance. My point was that those who have something negative to say are usually more eager actually come and say. Still, our analytics can see not only feedback posted on Forum but also the actual interaction of players with the feature. And very often despite negative feedback we have on Forum/in the Group, players' interaction with the feature is very high. 

So, based on that...500 million troop attacking a beacon.

Is that 500 players at 1 million each or 5 at 100 million each.

A very big difference...
What?  When was there a battle with 500 million troops?  I'd like to see that one. 
May 21, 2018, 02:0205/21/18
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we wont see any new features until after flash is gone. why would they waste their time writing all that code when flash is outta here in 18 months. 


have we had any confirmation that the devs are indeed working on a platform for PC gaming? and that that platform includes stormfall?


I know Alina has said so... but is there anywhere else we can refrence?  anyone have a link to news article, game review, press kit, etc?



May 21, 2018, 03:4805/21/18
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roadstar Pitbull said:


IronApex said:


we wont see any new features until after flash is gone. why would they waste their time writing all that code when flash is outta here in 18 months. 


have we had any confirmation that the devs are indeed working on a platform for PC gaming? and that that platform includes stormfall?


I know Alina has said so... but is there anywhere else we can refrence?  anyone have a link to news article, game review, press kit, etc?



The sparta forum,, most of it is under "beta",,,, what has not been deleted already...

Well, just because something reach a beta, or a testing stage, it doesn't  necessary mean it come to completion, based on results in the testing. Like project become more costly, time consuming etc than expected returns. yada yada yada..


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May 21, 2018, 08:0905/21/18
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IronApex said:

we wont see any new features until after flash is gone. why would they waste their time writing all that code when flash is outta here in 18 months. 


have we had any confirmation that the devs are indeed working on a platform for PC gaming? and that that platform includes stormfall?


I know Alina has said so... but is there anywhere else we can refrence?  anyone have a link to news article, game review, press kit, etc?



You think they're not going to add any new features to the game for a year and a half?  Somehow I doubt that. 
May 21, 2018, 15:0105/21/18
May 22, 2018, 07:35(edited)
07/25/15
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BiohazarD said:


IronApex said:


we wont see any new features until after flash is gone. why would they waste their time writing all that code when flash is outta here in 18 months. 


have we had any confirmation that the devs are indeed working on a platform for PC gaming? and that that platform includes stormfall?


I know Alina has said so... but is there anywhere else we can refrence?  anyone have a link to news article, game review, press kit, etc?



You think they're not going to add any new features to the game for a year and a half?  Somehow I doubt that. 

Well if they are beta testing the new engine now, why should it take year and a half before the switch to it? Also, if you phasing out a platform, when working on a new, it make no sense what so ever to introduce new features and upgrades to a old platform, with exception of bug fixes and maintenance. Adding new features that you have to port over is not very economical in the sense of development. 


also looking at their youtube...


They pretty much state that themselves.



May 21, 2018, 18:1505/21/18
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Why do all think flash will die?  

This is just competition. Each company has its own stand-alone product.  

May 21, 2018, 22:3505/21/18
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the soul of mellowness said:


Why do all think flash will die?  

This is just competition. Each company has its own stand-alone product.  

Because the creators of flashplayer not developing it any further and stopping release security fixes and so forth.


https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/

May 22, 2018, 11:5705/22/18
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Hello, everyone!

Lord GADHERAS is right. After news about Flash destiny was released, devs started to think about the new engine and movement of our games to it.

I can't give you any signed in papers where all devs of the company put their signatures and made an oath they're working on the new engine.

But I can tell you about their current tasks and priorities. We have one separate team who is working on the new engine and you can see from Sparta that the process of movement is going.

Why would it take so long?

Because first, they need to move all players from Spart to WebGL, fixing all reported bugs during this process, and only then start to move Stormfall players to the engine.

As for the new features, devs don't plan to add them now as it's not logical to move them back and forward from the old engine to the new one. It will be easier to add them to WebGL at once.

May 22, 2018, 13:4805/22/18
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Alina Phoenix said:


Hello, everyone!

Lord GADHERAS is right. After news about Flash destiny was released, devs started to think about the new engine and movement of our games to it.

I can't give you any signed in papers where all devs of the company put their signatures and made an oath they're working on the new engine.

But I can tell you about their current tasks and priorities. We have one separate team who is working on the new engine and you can see from Sparta that the process of movement is going.

Why would it take so long?

Because first, they need to move all players from Spart to WebGL, fixing all reported bugs during this process, and only then start to move Stormfall players to the engine.

As for the new features, devs don't plan to add them now as it's not logical to move them back and forward from the old engine to the new one. It will be easier to add them to WebGL at once.

The new feature is already on the game : Lots and lots of Packages to coin and Bigger BG TAX.

As I can see PLARIUM is getting greedy !

GG

May 22, 2018, 13:5305/22/18
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Alina Phoenix said:


Hello, everyone!

Lord GADHERAS is right. After news about Flash destiny was released, devs started to think about the new engine and movement of our games to it.

I can't give you any signed in papers where all devs of the company put their signatures and made an oath they're working on the new engine.

But I can tell you about their current tasks and priorities. We have one separate team who is working on the new engine and you can see from Sparta that the process of movement is going.

Why would it take so long?

Because first, they need to move all players from Spart to WebGL, fixing all reported bugs during this process, and only then start to move Stormfall players to the engine.

As for the new features, devs don't plan to add them now as it's not logical to move them back and forward from the old engine to the new one. It will be easier to add them to WebGL at once.

Wouldn't then a better response to the questions about beacons, to be it will be looked at once the game ported to new engine. And then be hold accountable for doing just that, rather than the bs about analyze data? :p


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