I call for a vote of no confidence!

So a guy that does not know how to lift a siege is a moderator ?!!!????!!!!!!???

I am sorry you guys feel that way. It wasn't my attention to make you feel sad. But to amuse you a little I did break DV siege. 

But unfortunately, I will still not fight KT members. As I have made a promise not to, besides they'll just destroy me😎. 

I am sorry you guys feel that way. It wasn't my attention to make you feel sad. But to amuse you a little I did break DV siege. 

But unfortunately, I will still not fight KT members. As I have made a promise not to, besides they'll just destroy me😎. 

Oracle said:

I am sorry you guys feel that way. It wasn't my attention to make you feel sad. But to amuse you a little I did break DV siege. 

But unfortunately, I will still not fight KT members. As I have made a promise not to, besides they'll just destroy me😎. 

That choice is longer yours, it has now been made for you.
Your appointment to moderator, the abbuse of power (min of 2-3 posts of mine were deleted today) your views and opinions of KT voiced on these forums have painted a very large target on your castle.
After this latest debacle by plarium (yes appointing you as moderator) has made it clear to me I should be leaving for real this time.

BUT, my castle isnt going anywhere and if I will gladly log in once a day just to raid/siege you :)

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

Marcel Stokvis said:

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

You have shared private correspondence, that I have full rights over without my consent. I would love to share Private correspondence that include KT and co, that I have since the last 3 month here, with your permission. Just little letters, and stuff, nothing biggy. 

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

You have shared private correspondence, that I have full rights over without my consent. I would love to share Private correspondence that include KT and co, that I have since the last 3 month here, with your permission. Just little letters, and stuff, nothing biggy. 

"Private" messages are the property of both parties involved.  ie if you send someone a mail they're allowed to share it with whomever they choose because it's theirs too.  It's a good idea to not send anything via in game messages that you wouldn't want being shown to others. 

That was a PM between me and Dave, and I respect KT privacy and haven't showed their league chat, and other illicit behavior to the puplic.

That is why i would rather have DV approval to post all PM that involves KT from 3 months till now. So what say you DV, should I show the puplic what goes on in-game, all the stuff, just laid out. 

Just between me and KT/ Me and Friends about KT

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

You have shared private correspondence, that I have full rights over without my consent. I would love to share Private correspondence that include KT and co, that I have since the last 3 month here, with your permission. Just little letters, and stuff, nothing biggy. 

"Private" messages are the property of both parties involved.  ie if you send someone a mail they're allowed to share it with whomever they choose because it's theirs too.  It's a good idea to not send anything via in game messages that you wouldn't want being shown to others. 

I completely agree with you Bio.

I've lost count of how many times Exxxe deleted my posts which showed an SS or a "private correspondence" (even though at the same time the Chronicles allowed the posting of SS's and "private correspondences").  

Wish those same rules applied to me when I was posting....

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Sky is currently up to 20 likes so far, wonder how many it will take?

test said:

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

You have shared private correspondence, that I have full rights over without my consent. I would love to share Private correspondence that include KT and co, that I have since the last 3 month here, with your permission. Just little letters, and stuff, nothing biggy. 

"Private" messages are the property of both parties involved.  ie if you send someone a mail they're allowed to share it with whomever they choose because it's theirs too.  It's a good idea to not send anything via in game messages that you wouldn't want being shown to others. 

I completely agree with you Bio.

I've lost count of how many times Exxxe deleted my posts which showed an SS or a "private correspondence" (even though at the same time the Chronicles allowed the posting of SS's and "private correspondences").  

Wish those same rules applied to me when I was posting....

The rules do apply, although we must honor privacy in the forums, to some extend we will not allow some PM to be showed. But I have not deleted and will not delete any correspondence between me and DV/KT even if my permission for such correspondence was not asked. 

I try at time to change the content of a screenshot, like the one of Anarchy, rather than delete it. I have not in all my experience banned a member, and I will continue these here. 

I am not the first Moderator and will not be the last to be attacked in these nature after being ''chosen'' to be a Mod. But that doesn't mean that I am a bad person. 

djmoody said:

Oracle said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

You have shared private correspondence, that I have full rights over without my consent. I would love to share Private correspondence that include KT and co, that I have since the last 3 month here, with your permission. Just little letters, and stuff, nothing biggy. 

I think we have posted enough rebuttals of this for the issue to be dead now.

The outside world considers e-mails to be received without any duty of care for who you then subsequently share them with. The legal precedence is that the sender knows the medium allows for easy and quick sharing, so there is no can be no reasonable expectation of privacy. A quick google will show US legal cases where this precedence was set.

We don't have to follow the outside world here if we don't want to. But the vast majority of the community has voiced that it would like there to be no restrictions to sharing in game mails, as long as they purport to the game. What everyone is completely agreed on is that mails that are about people's private lives, whether it be intimate details of their lives or simply real life data, like addresses are wholly unacceptable to share.

Part of this game is intrigue and politics. Some people play the game as trustworthy people, some scheme. But if you aren't allow to share evidence of the latter how will there be any balance to the game? You can be untrustworthy as you like, with the knowledge that a mod will come along and delete the evidence for you. Above all the points already raised, that scenario is just STUPID.
 

I totally agree with you, and I was in the front line in that regards, fighting moderators to show screenshots, And I have made 1-3 articles discussing the rules that apply in those regards, and have explained what can the rule be applicable to and not be applicable to. 

Oracle said:

djmoody said:

Oracle said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

This should be fun ... I wonder, what do you expect to hear if anyone at all bothers to show up?

http://prntscr.com/f2romy

You have shared private correspondence, that I have full rights over without my consent. I would love to share Private correspondence that include KT and co, that I have since the last 3 month here, with your permission. Just little letters, and stuff, nothing biggy. 

I think we have posted enough rebuttals of this for the issue to be dead now.

The outside world considers e-mails to be received without any duty of care for who you then subsequently share them with. The legal precedence is that the sender knows the medium allows for easy and quick sharing, so there is no can be no reasonable expectation of privacy. A quick google will show US legal cases where this precedence was set.

We don't have to follow the outside world here if we don't want to. But the vast majority of the community has voiced that it would like there to be no restrictions to sharing in game mails, as long as they purport to the game. What everyone is completely agreed on is that mails that are about people's private lives, whether it be intimate details of their lives or simply real life data, like addresses are wholly unacceptable to share.

Part of this game is intrigue and politics. Some people play the game as trustworthy people, some scheme. But if you aren't allow to share evidence of the latter how will there be any balance to the game? You can be untrustworthy as you like, with the knowledge that a mod will come along and delete the evidence for you. Above all the points already raised, that scenario is just STUPID.
 

I totally agree with you, and I was in the front line in that regards, fighting moderators to show screenshots, And I have made 1-3 articles discussing the rules that apply in those regards, and have explained what can the rule be applicable to and not be applicable to. 

The whole theme of the convo was not about that( I would have deleted the correspondence If I believe the rules to be otherwise). 

You deleted howmany of my posts since being made a mod just a few days ago?
You are the last person that should be allowed to even think of the word trustworthy ...

Oracle said:

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

You have shared private correspondence, that I have full rights over without my consent. I would love to share Private correspondence that include KT and co, that I have since the last 3 month here, with your permission. Just little letters, and stuff, nothing biggy. 

"Private" messages are the property of both parties involved.  ie if you send someone a mail they're allowed to share it with whomever they choose because it's theirs too.  It's a good idea to not send anything via in game messages that you wouldn't want being shown to others. 

That was a PM between me and Dave, and I respect KT privacy and haven't showed their league chat, and other illicit behavior to the puplic.

That is why i would rather have DV approval to post all PM that involves KT from 3 months till now. So what say you DV, should I show the puplic what goes on in-game, all the stuff, just laid out. 

Just between me and KT/ Me and Friends about KT

You didnt just admit to using alts to see our league chat now did you?
Cant imagne you have many friends in game that pass stuff to you, lol

So no, you do not have my permission to abuse this game and post screenshot of our leaguechat, that would be against the rules you know.
But to not leave you standing that all alone and empty handed, I'll give you a leaguewide http://prntscr.com/f2yp64

Yes I realise you moved your castle but if you open your map move just a tad down and to the right .... et voila.
That dome wont be up forever, lol and I will be right there when it does.

I think Oracle will make a great Moderator.

He has a sense of humor...which seems to be lacking around the forums.

I kinda agree with my old mate Knightmare on this. Oracle could make a good mod. Who knows? We have already seen mods run out of town due to loud, influential voices. I say give him a chance

As for DJ's post, I agree 100%. This is where moderation is really needed:

"What everyone is completely agreed on is that mails that are about people's private lives, whether it be intimate details of their lives or simply real life data, like addresses are wholly unacceptable to share"

What I cannot believe is that Biohazard retained his moderator status after posting business IP addresses to further his league/allies BS.

sofar 22 players support the vote of no confidence ... 2 players spoke up for you.
Looks like a done deal to me ...

Do we get a farewell party for King nOOb?