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Jun 24, 2020, 07:3706/24/20
Jun 24, 2020, 07:38(edited)
03/10/15
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leo i think even the crickets left, bored because of the silence of an answer
Jun 24, 2020, 07:5306/24/20
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Some crickets follow but when there's nothing new to tell it's best to be mute, it's no proverb but it should be.



algunos grillos seguimos pero cuando no hay nada nuevo que contar lo mejor es estar mudo, no es ningun provervio pero tendria que serlo

NancyAdmin
Jun 24, 2020, 08:5506/24/20
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Archons, I've just received an answer from our game designers regarding this suggestion and would like to share it with you. 


We've been thinking a lot on this topic and came to the conclusion that the availability of such a Guardian may devalue other PVP Guardians. Many of you have been working hard on leveling up and upgrading such Guardians and it would be unfair towards these players to implement a Coalition Attack Guardian. 


We understand how important Coalition attacks are to you. That's why we don't reject an option that one day it would be possible to select one of the existing Guardians and send it in a Coalition attack. If you would like to see such an improvement, feel free to create a separate thread in the Suggestion section and share your thoughts about it with us. 


Your understanding is much appreciated. 



Jun 24, 2020, 12:0706/24/20
Jun 24, 2020, 12:12(edited)
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can you explain me how it is unfair suddenly?


so we can understand as you want us to do....


if you dont mind, its better to keep here the discussion. so we have all explanations from the last two years , closing this post with no other discussion, would make like if there no intention to discuss it, and i am sure its not what you want, as you said in your post.


we are all trying to understand why plarium killed coalition attacks,  what we find unfair its that only one person benefit of the guardian and not the others in the attack, while the defense, can benefit of all guardians..... as we proven in the past, this petition was made as it is very unfair...

NancyAdmin
Jun 26, 2020, 14:3906/26/20
07/09/19
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Fortuna T.I.A. said:


can you explain me how it is unfair suddenly?


so we can understand as you want us to do....


if you dont mind, its better to keep here the discussion. so we have all explanations from the last two years , closing this post with no other discussion, would make like if there no intention to discuss it, and i am sure its not what you want, as you said in your post.


we are all trying to understand why plarium killed coalition attacks,  what we find unfair its that only one person benefit of the guardian and not the others in the attack, while the defense, can benefit of all guardians..... as we proven in the past, this petition was made as it is very unfair...

There are actully two reasons. The first one I've already mentioned. 


the availability of such a Guardian may devalue other PVP Guardians. Many of you have been working hard on leveling up and upgrading such Guardians

By unfair I mean that if we were to implement a Coalition attack Guardian, all other PVP Guardians, whose specialization relates to an attack, would lose their value in the game for these players. It goes without saying that hey put lots of time, effort, and resources into the development of these Guardians. 


The second reason implies some technical peculiarities and restrictions in the development of such a Guardian. 


The best decision, in this case, would be to create a new thread where players could share their ideas on how we may improve the coalition attack feature with the help of existing Guardians.  

Jun 27, 2020, 14:3906/27/20
03/11/15
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Ridiculous off the wall solution again Nancy, are you playing another game on another planet than us. We dont want a coalition attack guardian another reason to spend monies at plarium. We want our own personal guardian to go with our own personal army that we send from designated members city to be be realized on said designated target. Dont understand after all these years why you still dont get it. I will just go and bang my head against another wall I guess.
Jun 27, 2020, 19:2706/27/20
05/15/15
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the availability of such a Guardian may devalue other PVP Guardians. Many of you have been working hard on leveling up and upgrading such Guardians

This is what Plarium does all the time....


As soon as something doesn't make enough money anymore it is made less worth and something new is invented.

For example golden guardians. All coiners are full of  golden 99% guardians now, so it is made available to the non-coiners too.

I'm a non-coiner and i didn't get a golden guardian for quite a while, but in the last 1-2 months i got some of them.

Strange thing is that i just got golden guardians for emporias and elysian ones and i've heard the same thing from others.

Jun 28, 2020, 10:1306/28/20
11/05/15
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Nancy said:



We understand how important Coalition attacks are to you. That's why we don't reject an option that one day it would be possible to select one of the existing Guardians and send it in a Coalition attack. If you would like to see such an improvement, feel free to create a separate thread in the Suggestion section and share your thoughts about it with us. 


Your understanding is much appreciated. 



to be honest Nancy I think this is what we have all been waiting for, the ability to send existing attack guardians in a coalition attack instead of just the person launching it, non of the players I have spoken with wanted a brand new guardian for this 
NancyAdmin
Jun 30, 2020, 13:3206/30/20
07/09/19
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I see your point, Archons. Like you mentioned, this suggestion was created for almost 2 years and most likely a miscommunication occurred at some point. I will forward your feedback one more time. Thank you for your patience and understanding. 
Jul 2, 2020, 00:2607/02/20
Jul 2, 2020, 00:38(edited)
03/10/15
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so now is a miscommunication? OMG


moortee, where do you think we had the miscommunication ? has nancy realise you also gave your opinion agreeing with us since the start (as you are a player)


nancy your explanations are wrong and incomplete , showing lack of knowledge of the game mechanics. Not allowing  this change has broke the coa attack, we come here to help and we are talked back like children ...


the fact that you don't understand how serious it is is worrying, have you really play the game?



and no new thread, as the matter is still not sorted, explanations given are even more unclear.... and no need as you said in other threads to open new ones. 



Jul 2, 2020, 00:4107/02/20
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morteeee said:


Nancy said:



We understand how important Coalition attacks are to you. That's why we don't reject an option that one day it would be possible to select one of the existing Guardians and send it in a Coalition attack. If you would like to see such an improvement, feel free to create a separate thread in the Suggestion section and share your thoughts about it with us. 


Your understanding is much appreciated. 



to be honest Nancy I think this is what we have all been waiting for, the ability to send existing attack guardians in a coalition attack instead of just the person launching it, non of the players I have spoken with wanted a brand new guardian for this 

thanks moortee, the LAST THING any real player want is another guardian, 20 are too many.  to be sincere if they say first that it is unfair but offer a new guardian? making it fair if you have to buy a new one? 

no new guardians, we need to sort the ones we have first, as moortee said we need to be able to get the bonus of the sending one (that would be unfair) or each player with its own in a coa attack....
Jul 23, 2020, 23:3007/23/20
05/05/16
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WHT, I skimmed through but my eyes can't believe it.


unfair is for us currently.


we spent a lot of time and/or money to acquire and upgrade our capital offense guardian only to be told we can not use it. The defender is able to use all their +150 capital defense guardians to defend but we can't use our to attack. I ask, how is that fair in any universe?


do you guys not grasp this?
Aug 12, 2020, 22:1708/12/20
02/14/18
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Fortuna T.I.A. said:

but, have you not inform them of this error already?


its been in fb for a while, so the logic says that it should have come to us corrected, dont you think?

1.-

i should be able to send the guardian that i want as reinforcement

2. 

if i send a coa attack i should be able to choose the guardian of my collegues the same i can choose their troops/ champs... as they work the same way




this has created another unbalanced situation between defence and attack ingame. do really devs play this game? why they dont talk directly with real players... it would be all so easy and simple...

Hello! The mod team (including myself) did deliver this issue as soon as the feature showed up. But, for now, is how things still are working. I always advise my teammates to make hits on their own for PVP in pans. For a coa attack, better to send from the city that has the best guardian so the owner can take advantage. 
Aug 15, 2020, 23:0508/15/20
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whats the point in carrying on this discussion to its proper conclusion, sorry run out of brick walls to bang my head against.
Aug 16, 2020, 20:0408/16/20
05/05/16
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vanesamei said:


Fortuna T.I.A. said:


but, have you not inform them of this error already?


its been in fb for a while, so the logic says that it should have come to us corrected, dont you think?

1.-

i should be able to send the guardian that i want as reinforcement

2. 

if i send a coa attack i should be able to choose the guardian of my collegues the same i can choose their troops/ champs... as they work the same way




this has created another unbalanced situation between defence and attack ingame. do really devs play this game? why they dont talk directly with real players... it would be all so easy and simple...

Hello! The mod team (including myself) did deliver this issue as soon as the feature showed up. But, for now, is how things still are working. I always advise my teammates to make hits on their own for PVP in pans. For a coa attack, better to send from the city that has the best guardian so the owner can take advantage. 

So you are saying that the other coa members are out of luck. They worked hard to acquire and upgrade their guardians only to be not able to use them in a coa attack where you can do the most damage and get the best points.


Nice good to know!
Oct 20, 2020, 16:2910/20/20
Oct 20, 2020, 16:29(edited)
03/10/15
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Incredible, here we are still nothing has been done with this massive abusse that imbalance game created and not sorted by plarium.... how many years since we have been explaininng the mistake?


i see sparta will shut down in a couple of months and thats why they dont bother to correct the problem (that makes the game unbalanced, something that plarium always remarks when changing quick things, except this massive problem)
Oct 20, 2020, 20:1710/20/20
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we have had reassurances that the game is going to continue from Plarium however I do agree its frustrating that this hasn't been resolved :(
Oct 20, 2020, 20:4610/20/20
03/10/15
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morteeee with the experience i have in the last 6 years of promises not fulfilled, lol  i have no hope. (i would not complain if i am wrong on this one)


have you read facebook forums? i just read some interesting theories of what people are hearing from plarium staff-


who is going to buy packages if they knew the game as we play will cease on the new year as it will happend as app and web run with flash

Oct 21, 2020, 03:1610/21/20
02/14/18
550

Fortuna T.I.A. said:


morteeee with the experience i have in the last 6 years of promises not fulfilled, lol  i have no hope. (i would not complain if i am wrong on this one)


have you read facebook forums? i just read some interesting theories of what people are hearing from plarium staff-


who is going to buy packages if they knew the game as we play will cease on the new year as it will happend as app and web run with flash

Hello Fortuna:

CM has informed already to the community that devs have been working on a solution and they will inform us when the time is right.  Personally, I think that's a proper move since we don´t want them to rush and release something that could be still under probation. There is still plenty of time. I´m looking forward to seeing the changes also, that will be fun :)

Since the answer has been provided officially, I´m gonna ask you to stop posting about the flash issue, that will be consider spamming.

Thank you for your understanding :) 
Oct 21, 2020, 07:5810/21/20
Oct 21, 2020, 08:02(edited)
03/10/15
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vanesa, plarium has been working in a solution for 3 years and here we are... still nothing


now i am alloweed to express my concern abaout the future of the game in 2 months? 


are you threatening me with a ban for asking about it


this is irreal! you give no real answer 


i actually came to ask about guardians, but this kind of answers show the lack of help we get.