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Jun 15, 2022, 03:3106/15/22
05/03/20
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Gear cleansing (again)

Which 4 piece sets are least likely to be used?  I will thin out to the 2 best pieces of each.  

I need a fast way to clean out some gear.  I am getting much better gear from the fusion than I expected.  I was not ready to sell 5* rare because it had a bad top stat or bad sub stats.  

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Jun 15, 2022, 03:3706/15/22
Jun 15, 2022, 03:38(edited)
04/25/22
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I usually keep at least 1 full set of each , no matter how bad the pieces are

Keep speed and perception pieces "

Then anythign 5 stars with proper or decent rolls(without upgrade) i still keep those that upgraded badly .

Edit: i dont have much 6 star gear so i cant comment on that :P

Jun 15, 2022, 12:0606/15/22
06/25/20
6638

Honestly, I wouldn't just outright sell any of the sets. Even the ones you think you won't use. Sell bad items, not bad sets.

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 17, 2022, 00:4006/17/22
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Something like Cursed (versus four piece sets like Savage, Regen, etc. that I value) I think we should be very, very strict on substats and usually want it to roll double in a a wanted stat to even contemplate it rolling it up to 12. 

Basically, the more useless/less useful a set is, the more I need the rolls to be perfect because it's almost certainly going to be part of a broken set. The further along you are in the game with gear, the more strict you're going to be and it sounds like you're starting to get there now.

Jun 17, 2022, 00:5406/17/22
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dthorne04

Something like Cursed (versus four piece sets like Savage, Regen, etc. that I value) I think we should be very, very strict on substats and usually want it to roll double in a a wanted stat to even contemplate it rolling it up to 12. 

Basically, the more useless/less useful a set is, the more I need the rolls to be perfect because it's almost certainly going to be part of a broken set. The further along you are in the game with gear, the more strict you're going to be and it sounds like you're starting to get there now.

Good point about using broken sets.  I am having to sell gear that 30 days ago I would have jumped up and down to receive.   

How lenient are you with lego gear since they show 4 substats and a double/triple can hit late.  

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 17, 2022, 01:0106/17/22
Jun 17, 2022, 01:02(edited)
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ClosedPoly

Good point about using broken sets.  I am having to sell gear that 30 days ago I would have jumped up and down to receive.   

How lenient are you with lego gear since they show 4 substats and a double/triple can hit late.  

If there's speed subs (now it needs to be 5 speed rather than 4 in most 5* sets for me), I'll roll 2x to try to land both before selling. Being efficient with gear can frequently be boring, but worth it long term. 

Jun 17, 2022, 02:5906/17/22
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Hard, fast rules work for me now.  I dont have enough gear knowledge to be subjective.  

Thanks.  

Jun 17, 2022, 03:3706/17/22
06/25/20
6638

My personal rules - and bear in mind this is not necessarily applicable for you:

Auto-sell - excluding Hydra items and CvC items, which I keep all of:

  • Anything 5* and under, period
  • Anything rare and under, excluding rare Speed / Divine Speed / Perception / Swift Parry with speed substat
  • Epic and lego items without three "good" substats (ATK%/DEF%/HP%, ACC, RES, SPD, CR, CD), excluding the same above sets/conditions
  • ATK rings without ATK% substat, DEF/HP rings without DEF% and HP% substat
  • ATK amulets, DEF/HP amulets without both ACC and RES
  • ATK/DEF/HP Banners without SPD substat
Jun 17, 2022, 06:3606/17/22
10/15/20
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Interesting to see others rules, i absoloutely do keep 5 star gear, usually if it has both crit and speed substats, i will try rolling it first.


I do the same as kram on amulets / rings / banners however.

Jun 17, 2022, 08:0806/17/22
05/03/20
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kramaswamy.kr

My personal rules - and bear in mind this is not necessarily applicable for you:

Auto-sell - excluding Hydra items and CvC items, which I keep all of:

  • Anything 5* and under, period
  • Anything rare and under, excluding rare Speed / Divine Speed / Perception / Swift Parry with speed substat
  • Epic and lego items without three "good" substats (ATK%/DEF%/HP%, ACC, RES, SPD, CR, CD), excluding the same above sets/conditions
  • ATK rings without ATK% substat, DEF/HP rings without DEF% and HP% substat
  • ATK amulets, DEF/HP amulets without both ACC and RES
  • ATK/DEF/HP Banners without SPD substat

Why do you keep Hydra and CvC gear?

Jun 17, 2022, 08:2606/17/22
07/08/19
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ClosedPoly

Why do you keep Hydra and CvC gear?

hydra gear and cvc accessories are among the rarest pieces in the game and there's no way to farm them, unlike most other equipment. since you get so few drops, keeping it to the same high standards that you do your other gear just means you'll have almost no pieces when you need them. it's better to have your cardinal with a few bad substat rolls and a stoneskin buff than vice versa..

Jun 23, 2022, 04:4006/23/22
05/03/20
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Do all substats have the same % to roll?

When 4 substats are shown is the percentage to roll 1 out of 4, 1 out of 16, 1 out of 64, 1 out of 256?

Jun 23, 2022, 05:0906/23/22
Jun 23, 2022, 05:10(edited)
10/11/20
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ClosedPoly

Do all substats have the same % to roll?

When 4 substats are shown is the percentage to roll 1 out of 4, 1 out of 16, 1 out of 64, 1 out of 256?

Yes, they do. It's always 1 in 4, though, on all of them, regardless if it already rolled or not. 

I'm assuming we're taking about leggo pieces? 

Jun 23, 2022, 05:2206/23/22
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Tyr Anasazi

Yes, they do. It's always 1 in 4, though, on all of them, regardless if it already rolled or not. 

I'm assuming we're taking about leggo pieces? 

Yes, Lego pieces with 4 substats.  I was compounding the percentages to see the chances for a quad roll.  

RNG knows exactly which substat I dont need.  lol

Thanks for your help.  


dthorne04Moderator
Jun 23, 2022, 23:5906/23/22
Jun 24, 2022, 00:00(edited)
12/30/20
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ClosedPoly

Do all substats have the same % to roll?

When 4 substats are shown is the percentage to roll 1 out of 4, 1 out of 16, 1 out of 64, 1 out of 256?

Assuming a legendary:

25% or 1/4 is correct, which is why quad rolls are so valuable/hard to find

.25x.25x.25x.25 (representative of the 25% chance you have to roll a specific stat) = .4% or 1/250 to land a quad

Jun 24, 2022, 01:4606/24/22
06/25/20
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dthorne04

Assuming a legendary:

25% or 1/4 is correct, which is why quad rolls are so valuable/hard to find

.25x.25x.25x.25 (representative of the 25% chance you have to roll a specific stat) = .4% or 1/250 to land a quad

Or, more specifically, 1/256, as Poly asked :P

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 24, 2022, 01:4706/24/22
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kramaswamy.kr

Or, more specifically, 1/256, as Poly asked :P

Been a long day, I took the scenic route. :P

Jun 24, 2022, 01:4706/24/22
05/03/20
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dthorne04

Assuming a legendary:

25% or 1/4 is correct, which is why quad rolls are so valuable/hard to find

.25x.25x.25x.25 (representative of the 25% chance you have to roll a specific stat) = .4% or 1/250 to land a quad

When I roll out rare should it have a double roll on a good substat to be a keeper?

When I roll out epic and lego to 8 should I have at least a double to keep the gear?

All of my gear now has good substats.  Except I allow lego to have one bad.  

Jun 24, 2022, 01:4906/24/22
06/25/20
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ClosedPoly

When I roll out rare should it have a double roll on a good substat to be a keeper?

When I roll out epic and lego to 8 should I have at least a double to keep the gear?

All of my gear now has good substats.  Except I allow lego to have one bad.  

Not exactly, but yeah pretty close.

Personally I sell all rare except for speed / divine speed / swift parry / perception with speed substat, and sell those if they don't double roll on speed. But that's specifically for rare gear.

For epic gear, I sell if there aren't three good substats, because even a double roll on good substats isn't enough to warrant the chance of a roll on the bad substat at 12. I get enough epic and lego gear to just only roll on the gear with three good substats.

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 24, 2022, 01:5006/24/22
12/30/20
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ClosedPoly

When I roll out rare should it have a double roll on a good substat to be a keeper?

When I roll out epic and lego to 8 should I have at least a double to keep the gear?

All of my gear now has good substats.  Except I allow lego to have one bad.  

Short answer: yes

Long answer: The more high value a set is to you, the more likely you should be to have less strict rules. For me personally, sets like Immunity and Stone Skin I'm more lenient with, whereas a more mediocre set I require near perfect rolls because I'm very, very unlikely to use it outside of a broken set. 

Jun 24, 2022, 01:5106/24/22
06/25/20
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dthorne04

Short answer: yes

Long answer: The more high value a set is to you, the more likely you should be to have less strict rules. For me personally, sets like Immunity and Stone Skin I'm more lenient with, whereas a more mediocre set I require near perfect rolls because I'm very, very unlikely to use it outside of a broken set. 

Yeah to clarify - the "special sets" I keep, as mentioned in the previous post. AKA any set that I can't farm.