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Some advice for arena - stop using "easy" defense teams

Some advice for arena - stop using "easy" defense teams

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Apr 5, 2022, 14:4204/05/22
02/14/21
505
kramaswamy.kr

I really think you guys are missing the point of my post. I'm not saying anything at all about what teams you should run on offense. I'm saying, if you have the option, don't run those above teams on defense. Of course if you have no other choice, then the point is moot. But especially now, with the way the arena matchings are set up, if you can avoid making your team an easy target, it'll go a long way towards keeping you at your rank.

But it was not an easy target before Plarium's mistake, so I think we are both missing the point 😀

Apr 5, 2022, 14:4504/05/22
12/19/19
6290
Deleted

Nice advice for newer players. Use Rotos...

0😆 i am not giving specific champ advice since my solution to avoiding the speed race in classic arena is to fight the tanky teams with:

Ramantu(lead)

Kimi or Lydia 

Warlord

Leo


@Minin 

You don't need to git God, just copy my team :) lmk if you want stats to target for these champs and ill share lol.

Fyi, after approaching 3200 last Night in g4, I am treading at 3000 today. Classic is almost as difficult as tag (and I am in G3...)



Apr 5, 2022, 14:4604/05/22
06/25/20
6638
Minin

But it was not an easy target before Plarium's mistake, so I think we are both missing the point 😀

Of course it was. You just had the luxury of having a weak matchmaking system to protect you.

Eventually it was going to catch up. The last few weeks just accelerated it. Whatever fix they implement, eventually, those teams are going to start failing more and more. So, if you want to rest on your laurels, be my guest, but then don't come back in three months complaining about how your defense team is getting crushed.

Apr 5, 2022, 14:5204/05/22
02/14/21
505
kramaswamy.kr

Of course it was. You just had the luxury of having a weak matchmaking system to protect you.

Eventually it was going to catch up. The last few weeks just accelerated it. Whatever fix they implement, eventually, those teams are going to start failing more and more. So, if you want to rest on your laurels, be my guest, but then don't come back in three months complaining about how your defense team is getting crushed.

Wow just wow

I am not sure how it is always the players fault for some but we will agree to disagree and call it a day.


GL to you 

Apr 5, 2022, 14:5604/05/22
06/25/20
6638
Minin

Wow just wow

I am not sure how it is always the players fault for some but we will agree to disagree and call it a day.


GL to you 

Look - that said, I will retract some of my point. The actual team comp of Arb + Kymar + Serris + Rotos is pretty solid defensively, and decently scary. What team power are you running?

Apr 5, 2022, 15:0004/05/22
02/14/21
505
kramaswamy.kr

Look - that said, I will retract some of my point. The actual team comp of Arb + Kymar + Serris + Rotos is pretty solid defensively, and decently scary. What team power are you running?

160 to 170 as the only one built with stats that raise team power is Roto, Arb is all speed, PK is my second so speed and Acc , MS  480ish Acc, then Roto.

Shrug just fustrating to go from fine to toliet in a couple weeks 😀

Apr 5, 2022, 15:0104/05/22
02/14/21
505
Trips

0😆 i am not giving specific champ advice since my solution to avoiding the speed race in classic arena is to fight the tanky teams with:

Ramantu(lead)

Kimi or Lydia 

Warlord

Leo


@Minin 

You don't need to git God, just copy my team :) lmk if you want stats to target for these champs and ill share lol.

Fyi, after approaching 3200 last Night in g4, I am treading at 3000 today. Classic is almost as difficult as tag (and I am in G3...)



ROFLOL

Not sure I would be complaining if I had just 1 of those champs much less all 4 😀😈

Apr 5, 2022, 15:0104/05/22
06/25/20
6638

And the teams that you're seeing which beat you - I'm curious what types of teams they are. Because that's a reasonable team power, I probably would avoid fighting it with my Stoneskin Cardinal team, and I'd also likely avoid it with my Arbiter Maulie team, because Rotos is just annoying to deal with.

Apr 5, 2022, 15:0504/05/22
02/14/21
505
kramaswamy.kr

And the teams that you're seeing which beat you - I'm curious what types of teams they are. Because that's a reasonable team power, I probably would avoid fighting it with my Stoneskin Cardinal team, and I'd also likely avoid it with my Arbiter Maulie team, because Rotos is just annoying to deal with.

Mostly other speed teams but they did not use to hit me this much, I know it is because we are all squished and much closer to each other than before G5 and the matchmaking was changed.

Apr 5, 2022, 15:0904/05/22
06/25/20
6638

What rank and rating are you at? I'm really quite surprised that you're getting attacked so much with that team. I find that in the 2950-3000 rating range, people just don't want to take the risk of attacking and possibly losing, when they aren't very confident in winning, and your team certainly does not provide that level of confidence.

What are the ratings of the players who attack you? Are you mostly attacked by people much lower, or much higher than you?

Apr 5, 2022, 15:1604/05/22
02/14/21
505

I got pushed all the way back to G2 last week.

I am at 2350 right now and get hit by a mix of players above and below me, and just lost points to a freeze 😭

Apr 5, 2022, 15:2404/05/22
12/19/19
6290


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I could stay in G5 doing like 10 classic battles a day prior, I rarely used my refills.  As you can see I've used everything since reset and barely up 100 points, 😆. 

I don't care if I am in g4 or g5, even g3 but I agree with minin. I don't want to spend any more time in classic arena.  Bring back the BOTS!!!


Apr 5, 2022, 15:3604/05/22
02/14/21
505
Trips


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I could stay in G5 doing like 10 classic battles a day prior, I rarely used my refills.  As you can see I've used everything since reset and barely up 100 points, 😆. 

I don't care if I am in g4 or g5, even g3 but I agree with minin. I don't want to spend any more time in classic arena.  Bring back the BOTS!!!


Agree

I should be cruising thru G2 but only 100 points in then I get hit a bunch just not worth the effort ATM for me.

Apr 5, 2022, 15:4804/05/22
604
Trips


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I could stay in G5 doing like 10 classic battles a day prior, I rarely used my refills.  As you can see I've used everything since reset and barely up 100 points, 😆. 

I don't care if I am in g4 or g5, even g3 but I agree with minin. I don't want to spend any more time in classic arena.  Bring back the BOTS!!!


66 wins 5 losses and just 109 points from starting position ? :D

Lesser than +2 average points from battles. I wondering when fix Plarium the Arena.

Apr 5, 2022, 18:0704/05/22
12/19/19
6290
Deleted

66 wins 5 losses and just 109 points from starting position ? :D

Lesser than +2 average points from battles. I wondering when fix Plarium the Arena.

The bigger problem was getting up to 3200 and then getting hit on defense for -15 every time. Th

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Apr 5, 2022, 18:1304/05/22
02/24/19
7821
Trips

The bigger problem was getting up to 3200 and then getting hit on defense for -15 every time. Th

I'm just in the "Stay in G4" camp. All other work is wasted until the changes start coming through, at least in my opinion.