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Sep 5, 2020, 12:4209/05/20
09/05/20
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What is wrong with clasic arena?

I  was in gold 4 for 1 year and right now I have 1 month since I droped to much week by week, I m on 1 gold ,really ????It is not fair after 1 year of play this is what we gett? Really im not play anymore if you 'plarium' dont fix this
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Sep 5, 2020, 12:4509/05/20
06/22/19
800
Haha another player "I can't win. . It is the game's fault" 
Sep 5, 2020, 14:4909/05/20
09/05/20
3
Hey you are on bronze arena and you speak about others?my team have 207 k power,a strong team I beat over 20 teams per day, but I DROP to fast because the plarium cange this 1 month ago, this is the fault  
Sep 5, 2020, 15:0009/05/20
09/05/20
3

I had 4100 points in gold 4 arena classic on july, and right now I spend over 500 gems every week to stay on 2 gold ,where it is our fault ?


Sep 5, 2020, 15:0909/05/20
12/19/19
6265
Big Y said:

I had 4100 points in gold 4 arena classic on july, and right now I spend over 500 gems every week to stay on 2 gold ,where it is our fault ?


Other players got better, your team did not. You dropped. Gold4 is really difficult. It should be. They should fix bronze and silver for the new players first. Gold4 was easy, if they fix the problem at the bottom that will force more players up and mitigate the inflation somewhat 
Sep 5, 2020, 16:2909/05/20
06/19/17
211

The problem is nobody want to get demoted.

Most normal spenders are having trouble in golv Iv. It seems you pretty much need sihpi and spending on speed pack to be sure to be in golv IV.


If they only removed the advantage in pve from being high in arena I would not care much. 

To me arena has become an annoying grind. About 4 months ago it took me like 30 minutes pr. day to use all arena tokens. Now it takes 30 minutes to use the five you need to do daily. I have not yet accepted relegation from gold VI since it will hurt clan boss performance, but the game would be alot less frustrating if I just did.

The game is supposed to be fun and to me arena seems like work not fun.
Sep 5, 2020, 17:0909/05/20
04/13/20
313

Big Y said:


Hey you are on bronze arena and you speak about others?my team have 207 k power,a strong team I beat over 20 teams per day, but I DROP to fast because the plarium cange this 1 month ago, this is the fault  

Team Power does not really say anything about your real strength and your team synergy. I do win even such battles, yet my Defence log is usually a sea of red reports:



That said, yes, Arena is getting more and more difficult as more and more players get maxed strong champions. It can feel ridiculously hard to the average player. I would suggest a checkpoint system. You get to Silver IV, you cannot drop to Bronze. You get to Gold IV, you cannot drop to Silver. Perhaps with an option to allow such a drop willingly?

Sep 5, 2020, 22:2109/05/20
Sep 5, 2020, 22:27(edited)
01/15/20
105

This is what I have a problem with.  I'm 2790 in G3 yet I get attacked alot by players already in G4  I feel if your in Gold 4 your list should have other G4 players not G3

Edit: It's just very frustrating..I'm only 4 missions away from the G4 mission and I'll have other 4 missions completed 10 minutes after Void keep opens.  I'm willing to spend my 150 gems from said missions just to reach G4 which won't happen if I keep getting attacked by G4 players



Sep 6, 2020, 00:0709/06/20
05/03/20
1817

I choose my battles very carefully.  I have a list of champs I will not attack.  I play arena 12 times a day for daily and clan missions.  The day ends with me in B4.  The next day I have knocked down to B3 because my defense gets attacked by the same heroes I wont attack.  By the way, when you log out of the game your defense continues to lose points. 


Whether its my team, Plarium or a combination dont know.  I focus on Dragon now to get better gear and wait for 2x hoping I draw some better players. 
Sep 6, 2020, 01:5409/06/20
01/15/20
105
Finally reach G4 mission complete. Took me 100 gem refreshes from 2790  got lucky and got 4 solo defense teams in one refresh 
Sep 6, 2020, 15:1109/06/20
12/19/19
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Zukoku said:

Finally reach G4 mission complete. Took me 100 gem refreshes from 2790  got lucky and got 4 solo defense teams in one refresh 
Congrats! It's easier to stay in g4 than get there. The closer you get to 3000 the more solo defense u see lol. I think this is the week I finally drop to g3
Sep 6, 2020, 17:4809/06/20
02/09/20
6
arena is perfect now. only problem of arena are noobs who dont want to farm and catch up with other ppl
Sep 6, 2020, 21:4009/06/20
07/05/19
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DavyJones said:


arena is perfect now. only problem of arena are noobs who dont want to farm and catch up with other ppl

This is actually a false statement.

As I said in the other thread, the problem with Classic Arena ladder is that the point system is a zero sum game. Meaning there's a limited amount of points available for players to grab.

So although there's no player caps in the classic arena the nature of the zero sum point system will limit the number of players that can get into each higher tier

Also because of the zero sum system, for someone in silver to get to gold, they literally need to pull down someone from gold to silver.

That is why we have an abandoned account problem in the beginning, but now what we have is just the system being stuck, there's no way a new account can ever take down someone from gold right now unless that gold account give up their position.

This is why everyone gets 1000 points in the beginning of joining the Arena and this is why every week the arena is reset with your point taken down to the minimum of your tier, it is to mask the nature of the point system. Without the weekly reset, people will realise just how stuck they are because they will literally see their points barely changing.


So no, it's not the new player, it's the system that is seriously flawed.

Sep 7, 2020, 19:3709/07/20
09/05/20
3
Yes you are right,the sistem is wrong, I was at work 8 hours ,at that time in last 4 hours my team have 34 fights...really ???what we do something wrong ? I win 20 fights when I play after work we can not stay all day and night on the game, and this problem it was not before the june, it is made from plarium, they do not have respect for us,  the players,right now I am 4 silver after 1 year on gold 4.the sistem is wrong wrong wrong. 
Sep 8, 2020, 09:4109/08/20
08/05/19
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Big Y said:

I  was in gold 4 for 1 year and right now I have 1 month since I droped to much week by week, I m on 1 gold ,really ????It is not fair after 1 year of play this is what we gett? Really im not play anymore if you 'plarium' dont fix this
All is wrong with classic arena, mate. Really all.
Sep 8, 2020, 09:5309/08/20
07/31/20
373

Big Y said:


I  was in gold 4 for 1 year and right now I have 1 month since I droped to much week by week, I m on 1 gold ,really ????It is not fair after 1 year of play this is what we gett? Really im not play anymore if you 'plarium' dont fix this

I would say: Do not waste time in this forum talking to players who played 1 or 2 year longer than you. A few loud noise ppl in this forum are just pay 2 win or lucky guys, who won because learning somewhere in youtube + exaggerate their ability. Just ignore them. If you are not happy with the game, comment on google play or appstore with correct stars, with enough vote Plarium may notice, talking to those loud noise here just waste time + annoying. 

Sep 9, 2020, 05:5609/09/20
07/03/19
1
What do you guys think about when it is a never ending battle, I just did one that would have lasted forever if I didn't leave the battle?  Should they make a time limit on battles and if you don't win in that time limit, you just declare it a draw. This might be a very minor issue compared to the other issues but I hate having to leave a battle and losing because of this.  
Sep 9, 2020, 07:2209/09/20
Sep 9, 2020, 07:24(edited)
07/05/19
747

TStar Walker said:


What do you guys think about when it is a never ending battle, I just did one that would have lasted forever if I didn't leave the battle?  Should they make a time limit on battles and if you don't win in that time limit, you just declare it a draw. This might be a very minor issue compared to the other issues but I hate having to leave a battle and losing because of this.  

It is meant so that if you can't break an opponent offensively you're supposed to lose.

Remember, as the attacking team, you HAVE ALL THE ADVANTAGES, you choose the opponent, you can control your team manually, you can change your roster before entering the battle.

But I agree that there should be a time limit, if you can't break an opponent after the time limit expires, the attacking team should be declare as the loser.

BTW I hunt these kind of teams, that set their defender to have never ending heals / revive. It may take 10-15 minutes, but it's 90% win for me.
Sep 9, 2020, 15:3709/09/20
09/09/20
24

arena is perfect now. only problem of arena are noobs who dont want to farm and catch up with other ppl

Sep 9, 2020, 15:3809/09/20
09/09/20
24

i like this ppl who are ou i was gold 4 year ago now i am silver.....and??? year ago belower was in gold 4 ahaha and kaels...even shaman....now such shit noob teams in bronze....its not broken arena,...its you are to weak...

while you cry everybody gear up
Sep 9, 2020, 23:0409/09/20
02/26/20
1
Back in June and part of July, i had made it to gold 2...now i struggle to stay in silver 1...i have made my team better but this week I have a 16 % win rate when I used to be 60 to 80 %