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May 17, 2020, 18:4305/17/20
03/02/19
2

Arena matching changes

Over the last few days, the opponents I’m seeing in arena Gold 3 are consistently much harder than before. It used to be that in most refreshes there were some who were below my ranking, and sometimes many with only one defender.

Now, in 50 refreshes or so over 6 days I am almost never seeing these and losing all the time to the pay to win whales.

Is anyone else seeing this? If they make the arena impossible it really will hurt the game. I was considering buying the next battle pass, but if the game stays like this I don’t think I’ll bother since the Arena will be next to impossible without huge spending.


Palarium, is this intended or is it a bug you will be fixing?  If it is intend it would be good for you to tell us all why. Also maybe think about changing missions which ask us to update the guild hall, as they are now much much more difficult.


Any feedback is welcome.

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May 17, 2020, 20:4405/17/20
01/05/20
25

I have exactly the same. Earlier I was in G4 and now I am fighting to stay in G3. One day I refreshed the arena every 15 minutes throughout the day. All teams were much, much stronger (e.q. 110 me vs 180 opponent). Or (Team Power -TP) 110 me vs 115 opponent and he passed me out in firs turn!

I always start first (I have really speed apo) but later... just massacre.


May 17, 2020, 20:4505/17/20
04/14/20
1343

It makes sense that their algorithms can't take into account the players who decide they need to drop rating and put a single champion on defense, so pure luck whether you face any of those  (I also imagine that you'll see fewer of those right before the weekly arena reset as everybody tries to get rewards for the highest possible tier). 


But in my experience, it's indeed always the case that with a refresh, you get people ranked below you as well as people ranked above you - you're saying you only get people ranked above you now? Of course just because people are ranked below you doesn't mean they're easy to defeat... 
May 17, 2020, 21:1005/17/20
May 17, 2020, 21:12(edited)
01/05/20
25

IMO new algorithm sucks! Because even if they want to fall, the whales have more champions and better gear, so a player like me (early game or mid game) has no chance. It will be weeks or months before I get better champions or artefacts! I stuck with mission (upgrade GH to level 8) and I'm now able to score a few points a week. This is sick! I don't have Arbiter, Rotos, Hegemon, Tormin and other and I still have such opponents!

The more I fight, the lower I fall... sad

May 17, 2020, 21:1705/17/20
03/02/19
2

" it's indeed always the case that with a refresh, you get people ranked below you as well as people ranked above you - you're saying you only get people ranked above you now? "


Yep, it has definitely changed.  Opponents are far harder all the time than they were a week ago!


May 17, 2020, 21:2605/17/20
04/14/20
1343

Kragart said:


" it's indeed always the case that with a refresh, you get people ranked below you as well as people ranked above you - you're saying you only get people ranked above you now? "


Yep, it has definitely changed.  Opponents are far harder all the time than they were a week ago!

It might have something to do with inactive players dropping down one tier every week and getting in the way of active players with weaker rosters... but then I don't know why it would suddenly be so much worse now than last week. 


But that doesn't answer my question - looking purely at the rating, not at player power or strength of rosters, do you still see at the top of the screen players with lower ratings than yours, and at the bottom players with higher ratings? Because in the end the algorithms are based on that rating, not on the real strength of the teams. 
May 17, 2020, 21:5105/17/20
01/05/20
25

Yes, i see at the top of screen players with lower rating but it doesn't change anything anyway. E.g. first team from top Prince Keymar, Valkirie, Madame Series and Seeker (rating 2606) me Apo, Draco, Brakus, Rhazin (rating 2734) I don't have any chance... And lower is worse - stronger and stronger. And one more thing, it doesn't last for a week but longer. I think since the last update.

May 18, 2020, 05:1405/18/20
08/27/19
2
Its probably due to the tournament, less food, more serious. 
May 18, 2020, 09:1105/18/20
01/05/20
25

No.

It's not about the tournament.

That was the case before the tournament.

They changed something.

Everyone in my clan also has such insights.

GreenKnightCommunity Manager
May 18, 2020, 15:2405/18/20
04/06/20
581

Hello!

Kragart said:


Over the last few days, the opponents I’m seeing in arena Gold 3 are consistently much harder than before. It used to be that in most refreshes there were some who were below my ranking, and sometimes many with only one defender.

Is anyone else seeing this? If they make the arena impossible it really will hurt the game. I was considering buying the next battle pass, but if the game stays like this I don’t think I’ll bother since the Arena will be next to impossible without huge spending.


Any feedback is welcome.

There was no change in the Arena system, but different factors might have affected the competition. There was a change for the rewards from Gold tier chests. The recent start of the Arena tournament also factors in. These events might have made your Arena tier more competitive.

Have a nice day.

May 18, 2020, 16:1105/18/20
12/19/19
6434
I think the tournament combined with the end of the week made things tougher. But gold4 wasn't nearly as bad as silver3 for my alt. I got pummeled down to mid s2 lol
May 18, 2020, 21:1805/18/20
07/19/19
1

I completely agree something has drastically changed regardless of whats being communicated.  I've lost over 600 points in a week and never match anyone close to my level.   


With whatever change has/hasn't been implemented I've given up on the Arena lately.  My 120k team cant beat 10 choices of opponents all 140k+.  


Basically just getting 5 losses for the daily and calling it. 
May 19, 2020, 04:5005/19/20
May 19, 2020, 04:52(edited)
05/13/19
2326

I agree with the players on this thread.

Arena has drastically changed!



My team has 190k power.

I was fighting players with over 250k power last week.

I was crushing them.



My victories went down nicely with a Side of Fava Beans & a nice Chianti!



I am a man in search of the Ultimate Arena Challenge!

It is the only reason I play Arena.



Searching for the Elite few who can defeat me!

I welcome the Challenge.

it was wonderful!



Than the game has decided to change everything in Arena!

Arena has turned into trash.

9/10 fights are against weak teams

It's horrible!



80k power teams?

Why am I getting matched up with these people?






1 lost in 35 fights - Disgraceful

Is this all Arena has to offer?



Where are all these strong high power teams at that everyone on this thread keeps talking about?

Why am I not getting matched up with them?


Lets see how strong they really are!

Are they afraid?

May 19, 2020, 13:0505/19/20
03/02/19
2

Player J must be trolling.  My entire clan, and everyone on this thread and on the reddit one is seeing much more difficult arena matches.  


I just can’t understand why Plarium is being silent and secretive on this.  Usually they explain issues well, but this time they are saying nothing.
May 19, 2020, 21:2705/19/20
May 19, 2020, 21:54(edited)
01/05/20
25

Just check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru5foF70BRw

from 2:55


comments:

Jason Scott

They should add Plat 1 to 4 and have plat rewards vary depending on that. But right now, gold 4 is just full of lazy plat teams who just farm gold 4 easily because they know they wont get into plat. Where as is play 1 and 2 were unlimited, plat 3 could be 2000-5000 players and plat 4 being for 1000 players. At least there wouldnt be the bottleneck at gold 4.


Evan

Arena progression levels:

Early game team player: everyone's way too hard, i can't get out of bronze/silver

Late game team player: everyone's too easy, I'll push for platinum.

Platinum team player: i can't stay in platinum unless I whale out on tokens.


and many, many more...


May 19, 2020, 21:5105/19/20
05/13/19
2326

The Joke is on you Kragart for calling me a Troll with no Proof!

And now your going to feel foolish when I show everyone all the Screenshots to Disprove you!








Every day for the last week all I see are these weak defense teams.

I know what I have seen in my Arena list for the last week!


Again and Again and Again all weak defense teams.

Arena is total trash.


What do you think?

Do you think the Zar_Blaze player can beat me?

She is got 3 Leggos - Lyssandra - Valkyrie - Venus are top tier.

She is a spending player has the Raid pass.





HA HA - not even close to beating me.

My win rating is getting higher!





Can't get a single decent fight in Arena at all. 

What a total waste!

May 19, 2020, 22:0105/19/20
May 19, 2020, 22:02(edited)
01/05/20
25

What you write shows one thing: the arena is not working well. You have too weak opponents, me and Kragart too strong. And You and I don't have so much fun because of it !

May 19, 2020, 22:1705/19/20
May 19, 2020, 22:19(edited)
05/13/19
2326

klimasie said:


What you write shows one thing: the arena is not working well. You have too weak opponents, me and Kragart too strong. And You and I don't have so much fun because of it !



Yes, we are in agreement.

Arena should be fair.



Low level teams should be match with other Low level teams.

High level teams should be matched with other High level teams.
May 19, 2020, 22:1705/19/20
05/03/20
1857
I am at the low end of the scale around 1050 points.  My matches got much easier starting Monday.  But I still haven't won an Arena defense battle.  That's why I am stuck at this level. 
May 19, 2020, 22:3705/19/20
May 19, 2020, 22:37(edited)
06/22/19
800

I don't see any change in arena matching. You just can't keep up in the progression of other players. 


What I see change is the meta. There are now Siphi and Rotos. Everytime I see them in my list I prioritize in attacking them so teams with Siphi and Rotos will rank down in arena. And lower rank players than me with no counter to Siphi and Rotos will have hard time in arena :D :D :D

May 20, 2020, 10:1305/20/20
01/05/20
25

Very funny: "You just can't keep up in the progression of other players." If it was only about fighting in the arena, I would agree with you. But for new players, completing missions is now veeeery difficult or sometime impossible. And here's the problem.