Here i am again, to let lose my frustration.

I am playing this game for about 8 months, got lvl 60 since ages, completed almost all chalenges and questes where u can get freee shards.

I have already opened tons of shard, almost each of them during summoning events with 2x drop chances. And how many legens do i have ? TWO !! F...cking 2 legends from bilions of shards... I also opened 12 void shards during current void rush  and what ? 0 epic champions, not even mentioning legends. This is freaking bulll...it, 16% chances ? During my game experience the chances for epic on events are about 5% and legends like 0,3%. My theory is, that Plarium favors players that spending some money on this game, these kind of players got better drop chances from shards. Already spoken to many people and usually the ones that wasting money for game (notice: not all of them wasting money for shards) got 3x more legends than typiacal players with same game experiences time.

And i am asking u Plarium: Where the heck is guaranted legend/epic champ drop after opening certain amount of shard ?!??!! Can u please make the game just a little bit more fair than it is now ?? U are frauds to me, nothing else since u didnt implement guaranted drops. ( at least 1 legend for 100 ancient shards....)

Hi, opened 20 voids, no leg, 2 epics (Rowan, Whisper). 

2 out of 20 is not beating the odds. It's 10% and you should have 16% chance. 3 would be 15% and 4 would be 20% finally beating the odds.

Opened 25 myself and only got 2 epics as well. One was completely useless excuse of a champion and the other one was just about meh at best. Some players/accounts clearly have better base luck than others and I don't believe for a second that the system is working as intended. For example, I saw somebody pulling back to back void legendaries. Pure luck? Don't think so. Usually the first few pulls are the best ones for some reason. I highly suggest to investigate if it actually works right.

Also, why is the rebalance request topic closed?

2 out of 20 is not beating the odds. It's 10% and you should have 16% chance. 3 would be 15% and 4 would be 20% finally beating the odds.

Opened 25 myself and only got 2 epics as well. One was completely useless excuse of a champion and the other one was just about meh at best. Some players/accounts clearly have better base luck than others and I don't believe for a second that the system is working as intended. For example, I saw somebody pulling back to back void legendaries. Pure luck? Don't think so. Usually the first few pulls are the best ones for some reason. I highly suggest to investigate if it actually works right.

Also, why is the rebalance request topic closed?

Flextronix said:

2 out of 20 is not beating the odds. It's 10% and you should have 16% chance. 3 would be 15% and 4 would be 20% finally beating the odds.

Opened 25 myself and only got 2 epics as well. One was completely useless excuse of a champion and the other one was just about meh at best. Some players/accounts clearly have better base luck than others and I don't believe for a second that the system is working as intended. For example, I saw somebody pulling back to back void legendaries. Pure luck? Don't think so. Usually the first few pulls are the best ones for some reason. I highly suggest to investigate if it actually works right.

Also, why is the rebalance request topic closed?

Drop rate doesn't work like that. You have that chance on every single shard, not on all of them at the same time. If you have 16% of getting a legendary champion, it's 16% on 1 shard, it doesn't depend on how many shards you are opening.

Usually for games or any random effect it is 'generate random number between 0 and max (having 0,5% accuracy I would say max is 200)'

Now loot table looks like this (might have different order of sections but idea is the same)

0-32 - epic (16% chances)

33-34 - leg (1%)

35+ - rare

Opening 1000 shards should be enough sample that would ALMOST guarantee really close to 160 epics (let's say 99,99% for sth between 159 and 161)

It is still 16% per try, but the more tries you take the closer it gets to natural distribution (unless it is rigged)

Guys you have to understand that its not 16% of what you open but 16% chance per shard you can open 1000 shards and get nothing then again open the same 1000 and get epics every time. Its like rolling 100 dice to open a shard and in order to get an epic 16 of them need to land on 1. What we don't know is how many sides the dice have. Its really random, please don't bash a game that works just like every other game just like it, there really is no need to .

Usually for games or any random effect it is 'generate random number between 0 and max (having 0,5% accuracy I would say max is 200)'

Now loot table looks like this (might have different order of sections but idea is the same)

0-32 - epic (16% chances)

33-34 - leg (1%)

35+ - rare

Opening 1000 shards should be enough sample that would ALMOST guarantee really close to 160 epics (let's say 99,99% for sth between 159 and 161)

It is still 16% per try, but the more tries you take the closer it gets to natural distribution (unless it is rigged)

Valdys said:

ksthecr0w said:

Usually for games or any random effect it is 'generate random number between 0 and max (having 0,5% accuracy I would say max is 200)'

Now loot table looks like this (might have different order of sections but idea is the same)

0-32 - epic (16% chances)

33-34 - leg (1%)

35+ - rare

Opening 1000 shards should be enough sample that would ALMOST guarantee really close to 160 epics (let's say 99,99% for sth between 159 and 161)

It is still 16% per try, but the more tries you take the closer it gets to natural distribution (unless it is rigged)

Nothing is guaranteed.

sure - nothing is guaranteed, that is why i said ALMOST

My estimation was a bit off when saying it would be +-1 deviation having 99,99%

This is how it would end up for 1000 tries having 16% chances of success:

as you can see, having less than 120 or more than 200 successes in such trial have such low probability, you would rather win jackpot in lottery few times in a row, while most likely outcome is 160

a blue shard session  179 with double rate= 1 legendary  and 16 epics

2nd one 188 blue shards = 1 legendary and i don't remember how many epics + i don't care anymore about epics

3rd void shard 2x -  23 voids =  2 epics no legos    (youtubers in 6-8 voids are getting 2 legos, legit)

Hi, look at YouTube video from SALT - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lE20_wIzohg

First 10 pulls - 2 legos (Ithos, Warlord), 2 epics, bulwark and bellower.......      Madame Serris late.......

Looks like p2w youtubers rng mode. I have no complains about this. 

So, as u can see many ppl are frustrated so i am about the game beeing completly unfair. Explain to me then, why dont u make guarenteed drops after opening certain amount of shards ?? What is the problem with that ?? If u cant do that, for me u are just frauds, everyone would appreciate that solution. Or maybe the ones that paying for game ( the ones i strongly belive got better drop chances ) wouldnt ?

So, as u can see many ppl are frustrated so i am about the game beeing completly unfair. Explain to me then, why dont u make guarenteed drops after opening certain amount of shards ?? What is the problem with that ?? If u cant do that, for me u are just frauds, everyone would appreciate that solution. Or maybe the ones that paying for game ( the ones i strongly belive got better drop chances ) wouldnt ?

piotrlotr said:

So, as u can see many ppl are frustrated so i am about the game beeing completly unfair. Explain to me then, why dont u make guarenteed drops after opening certain amount of shards ?? What is the problem with that ?? If u cant do that, for me u are just frauds, everyone would appreciate that solution. Or maybe the ones that paying for game ( the ones i strongly belive got better drop chances ) wouldnt ?

I wouldn't go as far as guaranteeing anything, but instead, they should do something about the duplicates. Like, if you pull a duplicate Legendary champion, you would have one (1) chance to send it back for another Legendary tier champion for the cost of 100 gems or so. Then you get whatever comes next, duplicate or not. This cloud also work with Void epics for 50 gems. Or just increase the rates permanently and double those every now and then.