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Dec 2, 2024, 15:5812/02/24
10/12/21
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How fast can you be?

When it comes to PVP, I thought that I had a pretty good setup with a speed team. My lead is Arbiter with a 5 star Intimidating Presence. She is equiped with a 6 piece Speed set with each piece having a speed stat with having 2 upgrades. She even has the full speed ascend buff on her boots. Before Aura buff, she's at 338 speed.

However, there have been multiple instances where the other team has gone before me without any Intimidating Presence on their team. I should have a +15% speed boost and they should have a -20% speed boost and yet there they are, out speeding me.

How is this possible? It doesn't make sence to me how their team is faster then I am? I know from playing long enough that certain things have a little fudge room; my main attack damage isn't static and varies with each hit. But I can't imagine I got a poor roll and they got a god roll on their inititive. So, what's up with this? If it happened once I would say it was a fluke but it has happened at least a dozen times that I remember. Is someone able to show me the math with this???

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Dec 2, 2024, 16:1812/02/24
Dec 2, 2024, 16:22(edited)
06/07/23
18

I understand where you are coming from, it seems every week there is a push for more speed to keep up. Though I'm absolutely guilty of this, I believe it really takes strategy away from PVP and diminishes the quality of play. 

That being said Intimidating Presence doesn't add or take away as much as you are probably thinking initially. The percentage is of Arbiters Aura Percentage not the total speed.. so 15% of whatever the 30% is what's is being added to the total.. I think you may be looking at it as Aura Percentage + 15% so in this case is 45% but is like 32%

dthorne04Moderator
Dec 2, 2024, 17:5912/02/24
12/30/20
6325

After noting Presence only affecting auras and without getting bogged down too much in specifics with regards to highest possible speed rolls: it's possible to get well over 400 speed due to ascensions, new sets, effectively 5 speed rolls in mythic pieces, etc.

Depending where you are in Arena 300-330 might be a speed range you're looking for on some tankier go second champs, rather than one you think will certainly go first. 

Dec 2, 2024, 20:2512/02/24
01/15/21
1202

There have been a lot of additional items to boost speed lately, ascension, accessories that give bonus speed etc.

As an ftp of 4 years play my arbiter was 403 speed and my armanz 395 (but with good accuracy as well)

I frequently lost the speed race if going against other arbiters

Clan mates who were more into the endgame than me had siphis pushing 420 while still being tanky

It's just a matter of how long you have been grinding and using ascension and accessories for the extra.boost

Dec 2, 2024, 20:5412/02/24
05/26/22
614

I don't even try to go first. I just make sure they can't steal my stoneskin. 


ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 2, 2024, 23:4512/02/24
06/24/19
2525

115 - Base Speed
57 - Speed Ascended Boots ( 45 + 12 )
48 - Speed Glyphs ( 6 * 8 )
216 - Speed Rolls ( 36 * 6 )
55.2 - Set Bonus ( 5 Prot + 4 Speed )
8.28 - Lore of Steel ( 48% * 0.15 )
15 - 6* Awakening
10 - Full Faction Guardians
15 - +4 Empowerment

539.48 theoretical max

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 2, 2024, 23:5812/02/24
06/24/19
2525
Trevor Wilson

There have been a lot of additional items to boost speed lately, ascension, accessories that give bonus speed etc.

As an ftp of 4 years play my arbiter was 403 speed and my armanz 395 (but with good accuracy as well)

I frequently lost the speed race if going against other arbiters

Clan mates who were more into the endgame than me had siphis pushing 420 while still being tanky

It's just a matter of how long you have been grinding and using ascension and accessories for the extra.boost

It's madness lately with all the additional places to get speed.  Also seems like every variable set has it somewhere as well.

Dec 3, 2024, 02:1512/03/24
06/25/20
6753

Stoneskin Lightning Cage, yo~

Dec 3, 2024, 09:0912/03/24
01/31/20
1059
kramaswamy.kr

Stoneskin Lightning Cage, yo~

I'll see your stoneskin and raise you a Gnishak or a Shazaar 1-turn bomb attack.  

Dec 3, 2024, 10:5812/03/24
05/26/22
614
WileyMan

I'll see your stoneskin and raise you a Gnishak or a Shazaar 1-turn bomb attack.  

I just have my dutchess with really high resistance. Those teams are definately the paper to my rock but I put WuKong on my team and I can take these teams down better than 50% of the time. Most of the time though I just avoid them. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 3, 2024, 12:2012/03/24
06/24/19
2525
Shibb

I just have my dutchess with really high resistance. Those teams are definately the paper to my rock but I put WuKong on my team and I can take these teams down better than 50% of the time. Most of the time though I just avoid them. 

Whats really high Res?

Dec 3, 2024, 12:2512/03/24
Dec 3, 2024, 12:30(edited)
05/26/22
614
ShortOnSkillz

Whats really high Res?

5283.6

97% of the time it works all the time. 

Dec 3, 2024, 13:2412/03/24
12/16/21
1317

That's pretty high

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 3, 2024, 13:4112/03/24
06/24/19
2525

Agreed that's pretty good.

harleQuinnModerator
Dec 3, 2024, 14:1512/03/24
Dec 3, 2024, 14:43(edited)
02/24/19
8019
ShortOnSkillz

115 - Base Speed
57 - Speed Ascended Boots ( 45 + 12 )
48 - Speed Glyphs ( 6 * 8 )
216 - Speed Rolls ( 36 * 6 )
55.2 - Set Bonus ( 5 Prot + 4 Speed )
8.28 - Lore of Steel ( 48% * 0.15 )
15 - 6* Awakening
10 - Full Faction Guardians
15 - +4 Empowerment

539.48 theoretical max

550 very soon, I'm sure :P

Dec 3, 2024, 15:3512/03/24
10/12/21
8
ShortOnSkillz

115 - Base Speed
57 - Speed Ascended Boots ( 45 + 12 )
48 - Speed Glyphs ( 6 * 8 )
216 - Speed Rolls ( 36 * 6 )
55.2 - Set Bonus ( 5 Prot + 4 Speed )
8.28 - Lore of Steel ( 48% * 0.15 )
15 - 6* Awakening
10 - Full Faction Guardians
15 - +4 Empowerment

539.48 theoretical max

Dang, why do all of you mods have to knock me down?? *sniff. sniff* =D Wow, that is a lot of speed. I knew Protect had a 5 piece +35% boost but I have been majorly unlucky in getting the 9 piece accessories. Also, alot of my affinity bonuses are sitting around 5/10 because I haven't focused much on PVP; so there's that too.

However, what is "Lore of Steel"? I don't think I've run across that yet. Is it a unique aura or a special ability?

Dec 3, 2024, 15:5512/03/24
Dec 3, 2024, 15:55(edited)
12/16/21
1317
hybrithe

Dang, why do all of you mods have to knock me down?? *sniff. sniff* =D Wow, that is a lot of speed. I knew Protect had a 5 piece +35% boost but I have been majorly unlucky in getting the 9 piece accessories. Also, alot of my affinity bonuses are sitting around 5/10 because I haven't focused much on PVP; so there's that too.

However, what is "Lore of Steel"? I don't think I've run across that yet. Is it a unique aura or a special ability?

It's a mastery that gives a 15% bonus to any bonuses given by gear;


So if you have a speed set equiped for +12, it would give an extra 1.8 (12 * 0.15) on top of that

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 3, 2024, 20:4512/03/24
06/24/19
2525
harleQuinn

550 very soon, I'm sure :P

600 at this rate.

Dec 3, 2024, 21:2012/03/24
01/31/20
1059

5 yrs into the game and my 3 fastest toons are 358, 358 & 355.

I have never been super lucky with the uber-fast gear, so I just plan to go second...except in Live, where the drafting & banning process changes the formula a bit.

Dec 3, 2024, 21:2512/03/24
01/31/20
1059

I am much better with Resistance:  1197 (Mithrala w/Passive), 820 (Siphi) & 819 (Pythion)     

harleQuinnModerator
Dec 3, 2024, 22:0712/03/24
02/24/19
8019
WileyMan

I am much better with Resistance:  1197 (Mithrala w/Passive), 820 (Siphi) & 819 (Pythion)     

1200 is solid. 

800 is pretty weak to any mythicals since they ignore res.

Personally I'm not monopolizing that unless it's with Mikage or Karnage though. :/