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Spider10H mythic drop rate?

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Apr 16, 2024, 16:2404/16/24
11/16/20
1165
Trips

Let's get a leaderboard going like with Doomtower and Cursed City!  And please expedite the Live Arena win counter patch so it is fixed before the weekend :)

a leaser board for these wuests would be similar to a leaderboard of the best shard pulls, as half this is just rng luck and time gates.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 16, 2024, 17:4404/16/24
06/24/19
2431
WileyMan

At 37/180, I am not even to the first mission that requires any Myhtical to drop.  After I get past my current "Earn 2500 Mortal Soul Coins", I will zoom through the next handful and land at the "Obtain 5 Mythical Accessories from Spider", which is the Mission that the OP was complaining about.  If you are hunting Mythical Chestplates, you must be on Page 2 at least.     

I must have got confuddled by the screenshot.  I blame Trips.

Apr 16, 2024, 21:0004/16/24
12/19/19
6449
evilized6666

a leaser board for these wuests would be similar to a leaderboard of the best shard pulls, as half this is just rng luck and time gates.

I strongly disagree.  

1) Planning (actually reading the missions)

2) Willingness to waste resources (being a hoarder allows this) or buy energy

3) Being dumb enough to race for a 1-time prize that is an eventuality


Comparing it to "shard luck" is actually a great analogy, those with "bad luck" on shards is due primarily to PEBCAK.  Generally both inefficient play resulting in less shards, and not opening at optimal (2x, 1+1, guaranteed).  Over time (4 years for me), its EV not rng.  The variance is greatly minimized over time combined with efficiency/optimization.

The time gates just add a slight wrinkle to the strategy, and are generally welcome by me.

I would say 95% of "setbacks" are do to player mistakes / poor planning.  The other 5% are a combination of bad rng and poor planning.  At 142/180 now (bragging ribbon on).  Most that have faultered are do to not having a hydra key left, no clan gold, claimed all clan quests on day 1, not saving IT keys, selling all Zeal gear, no mythical charms saved, ....

Apr 17, 2024, 00:5604/17/24
11/16/20
1165
Trips

I strongly disagree.  

1) Planning (actually reading the missions)

2) Willingness to waste resources (being a hoarder allows this) or buy energy

3) Being dumb enough to race for a 1-time prize that is an eventuality


Comparing it to "shard luck" is actually a great analogy, those with "bad luck" on shards is due primarily to PEBCAK.  Generally both inefficient play resulting in less shards, and not opening at optimal (2x, 1+1, guaranteed).  Over time (4 years for me), its EV not rng.  The variance is greatly minimized over time combined with efficiency/optimization.

The time gates just add a slight wrinkle to the strategy, and are generally welcome by me.

I would say 95% of "setbacks" are do to player mistakes / poor planning.  The other 5% are a combination of bad rng and poor planning.  At 142/180 now (bragging ribbon on).  Most that have faultered are do to not having a hydra key left, no clan gold, claimed all clan quests on day 1, not saving IT keys, selling all Zeal gear, no mythical charms saved, ....

Been farming spider for almost a week now. 3/5 mythic items, its RNG.


I applaud your argument though.

Apr 17, 2024, 11:5404/17/24
12/19/19
6449
evilized6666

Been farming spider for almost a week now. 3/5 mythic items, its RNG.


I applaud your argument though.


i

Overcoming rng acquiring mythical artifacts 😆 

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 17, 2024, 17:2704/17/24
02/24/19
7964
Trips

I strongly disagree.  

1) Planning (actually reading the missions)

2) Willingness to waste resources (being a hoarder allows this) or buy energy

3) Being dumb enough to race for a 1-time prize that is an eventuality


Comparing it to "shard luck" is actually a great analogy, those with "bad luck" on shards is due primarily to PEBCAK.  Generally both inefficient play resulting in less shards, and not opening at optimal (2x, 1+1, guaranteed).  Over time (4 years for me), its EV not rng.  The variance is greatly minimized over time combined with efficiency/optimization.

The time gates just add a slight wrinkle to the strategy, and are generally welcome by me.

I would say 95% of "setbacks" are do to player mistakes / poor planning.  The other 5% are a combination of bad rng and poor planning.  At 142/180 now (bragging ribbon on).  Most that have faultered are do to not having a hydra key left, no clan gold, claimed all clan quests on day 1, not saving IT keys, selling all Zeal gear, no mythical charms saved, ....

You can have a Top Post ribbon too.

Apr 17, 2024, 20:5204/17/24
11/16/20
1165

well now that I have realized these missions are skill based I decided to just L2P and move on with them.


I have hit the next roadblock errr skill check I mean, but now that I have learned to play skill based instead of being a normal pleb praying for rng to bless me I can only assume I will be passed this and moving on in a couple hours.


i


Apr 17, 2024, 21:3604/17/24
Apr 17, 2024, 21:38(edited)
12/19/19
6449
evilized6666

well now that I have realized these missions are skill based I decided to just L2P and move on with them.


I have hit the next roadblock errr skill check I mean, but now that I have learned to play skill based instead of being a normal pleb praying for rng to bless me I can only assume I will be passed this and moving on in a couple hours.


i


That is correct, this is an easy one.  The difficult ones lie ahead.  No skill required though anywhere in the missions.



i


Apr 20, 2024, 02:2304/20/24
Apr 20, 2024, 02:23(edited)
01/31/20
996
Trips

I strongly disagree.  

1) Planning (actually reading the missions)

2) Willingness to waste resources (being a hoarder allows this) or buy energy

3) Being dumb enough to race for a 1-time prize that is an eventuality


Comparing it to "shard luck" is actually a great analogy, those with "bad luck" on shards is due primarily to PEBCAK.  Generally both inefficient play resulting in less shards, and not opening at optimal (2x, 1+1, guaranteed).  Over time (4 years for me), its EV not rng.  The variance is greatly minimized over time combined with efficiency/optimization.

The time gates just add a slight wrinkle to the strategy, and are generally welcome by me.

I would say 95% of "setbacks" are do to player mistakes / poor planning.  The other 5% are a combination of bad rng and poor planning.  At 142/180 now (bragging ribbon on).  Most that have faultered are do to not having a hydra key left, no clan gold, claimed all clan quests on day 1, not saving IT keys, selling all Zeal gear, no mythical charms saved, ....

All you really needed to say was this:  Demonstrates a "Willingness to waste resources" by "Being dumb enough to race for a 1-time prize that is an eventuality"  😁


 

Apr 20, 2024, 02:2604/20/24
01/31/20
996
Trips


i

Overcoming rng acquiring mythical artifacts 😆 

Holy clean sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeets.  How do you have that much energy to burn as a F2P player?  I have never had anywhere near that many Diver Points!  

Apr 20, 2024, 02:3304/20/24
01/31/20
996

For anyone who happens along this thread looking for information related to how many Spider H10 runs it takes to get 5 Mythicals to drop.  It took me 37 Super Raids at 40 energy a pop, so 1480 energy to pass the mission.  

I waited for the Spider Turn Attack Tourney to start and that got me to 5446 points.  Just a couple hundred (254 to be exact) shy of the Ancient Shard, so I'll pick that up shortly and call it g2g.  

Apr 20, 2024, 12:1004/20/24
12/19/19
6449
WileyMan

For anyone who happens along this thread looking for information related to how many Spider H10 runs it takes to get 5 Mythicals to drop.  It took me 37 Super Raids at 40 energy a pop, so 1480 energy to pass the mission.  

I waited for the Spider Turn Attack Tourney to start and that got me to 5446 points.  Just a couple hundred (254 to be exact) shy of the Ancient Shard, so I'll pick that up shortly and call it g2g.  

Thats a good rate. I believe its 5% drop on H10

Apr 20, 2024, 15:2504/20/24
11/16/20
1165
WileyMan

For anyone who happens along this thread looking for information related to how many Spider H10 runs it takes to get 5 Mythicals to drop.  It took me 37 Super Raids at 40 energy a pop, so 1480 energy to pass the mission.  

I waited for the Spider Turn Attack Tourney to start and that got me to 5446 points.  Just a couple hundred (254 to be exact) shy of the Ancient Shard, so I'll pick that up shortly and call it g2g.  

wtf did I do wrong ... it took me something stupid like 8k energy to finish this mission lol. Currently stuck on getting mythical boots now.

Apr 20, 2024, 15:2704/20/24
12/19/19
6449
WileyMan

Holy clean sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeets.  How do you have that much energy to burn as a F2P player?  I have never had anywhere near that many Diver Points!  

I quit cvc many moons ago, don't really use gems because I didn't have a sd25 or shogun25 or fk10 team until these missions started.  Nothing else worth using gems on except tag refills during tournaments and Sunday IT. Probably gemmed masteries once a month and slow burned a few in mino. And yes that's about how many DD points I would do across 3 fusion DDs all in one day lol.


ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 20, 2024, 15:2804/20/24
06/24/19
2431
evilized6666

wtf did I do wrong ... it took me something stupid like 8k energy to finish this mission lol. Currently stuck on getting mythical boots now.

RNG gonna RNG you.  I got the boots in around 400 energy.  Then it took me 25k energy to get the 4 chests.  Fun times.

Apr 20, 2024, 15:2804/20/24
12/19/19
6449
ShortOnSkillz

RNG gonna RNG you.  I got the boots in around 400 energy.  Then it took me 25k energy to get the 4 chests.  Fun times.


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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 20, 2024, 16:3404/20/24
06/24/19
2431
Trips


i


Sheesh killing it.  I'm waiting for Spirit IT again.  Figure I'll be 3-5 more months.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 20, 2024, 16:3504/20/24
06/24/19
2431
Trips

I quit cvc many moons ago, don't really use gems because I didn't have a sd25 or shogun25 or fk10 team until these missions started.  Nothing else worth using gems on except tag refills during tournaments and Sunday IT. Probably gemmed masteries once a month and slow burned a few in mino. And yes that's about how many DD points I would do across 3 fusion DDs all in one day lol.


Man these stupid missions, making you advance your account and stuff. 

Apr 20, 2024, 19:0704/20/24
01/31/20
996
Trips

I quit cvc many moons ago, don't really use gems because I didn't have a sd25 or shogun25 or fk10 team until these missions started.  Nothing else worth using gems on except tag refills during tournaments and Sunday IT. Probably gemmed masteries once a month and slow burned a few in mino. And yes that's about how many DD points I would do across 3 fusion DDs all in one day lol.


I use all my gems regularly, except for a reserve that I always keep for those "just in case" moments.  Every fusion, I dip below 3k.  I already have a 6S waiting for Mikage when I fuse her (PR CVC next week), so I am skipping this Mikage Titan.  First thing I have skipped in a long time, so maybe I can replenish my gems a bit.

I tend to pour everything extra into either SD25 runs or Mino15 runs.    

Apr 21, 2024, 23:2204/21/24
12/19/19
6449


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The real rng in the missions starts here.  0 essence on void day hurts.