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Mar 13, 2024, 04:1403/13/24
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Hydra best team questions ...

I want to ask who can i replace in this team to keep similar results ? Feels like i have too many bringing the same thing .. but its working .. best before was about 45m ... added archer , krixia and rathalas and this was the result .. 

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Mar 13, 2024, 04:3703/13/24
06/25/20
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Maybe you could drop duchess for sham?

Mar 13, 2024, 04:3803/13/24
Mar 13, 2024, 04:38(edited)
04/24/22
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kramaswamy.kr

Maybe you could drop duchess for sham?

Ouch it hurts  ..  rng wont give me sham >.< but i would try that 100% , cause dutchess just there for the torment head lol 

Mar 13, 2024, 05:2203/13/24
Mar 13, 2024, 05:22(edited)
06/25/20
6719

Is Krixia there just for block buffs? Do you just open a2, then change forms, a3, and swap back once a2 is off cd? Could maybe try ukko, not sure if it'd be any better. Feels like krixia is going to have a lot of dead turns.

Mar 14, 2024, 05:4303/14/24
Mar 14, 2024, 05:45(edited)
01/31/20
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kramaswamy.kr

Is Krixia there just for block buffs? Do you just open a2, then change forms, a3, and swap back once a2 is off cd? Could maybe try ukko, not sure if it'd be any better. Feels like krixia is going to have a lot of dead turns.

I had the same thought about Krixia.  I have a clanmate who is about to take her off his team and experiment with other options because he wants to boost damage.   

Archer should keep Hex up the whole time, allowing you to use Michinaki in a different team and bring in a different damage toon.  You have no AoE HP Burn and that can stack damage quickly.  

Do you have any of the S-Tier AoE Hydra Burners:  Sulfuryion, Teumesia, Supreme Galek, Venus (Extra Debuffs too), Cupidus & Artak are all top shelf.  Teumesia does over 100M by herself for me on Brutal.      

Mar 14, 2024, 06:0903/14/24
07/08/19
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do you have anyone you can swap out for nekmo? he's not bringing much to the table besides increase speed (and leech, but archer makes that largely unneccesary).

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 14, 2024, 13:1803/14/24
02/24/19
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I'd definitely keep Nekmo in actually. 0_0

Mar 14, 2024, 23:1603/14/24
Mar 14, 2024, 23:18(edited)
04/24/22
820

Thanks everyone for their input ^^ To answer everyone in a single post ..


Krixia : used for block buff/remove buff then into other form for remove debuff and cd reduction , stay in alternate form when mischief didnt respawn . My other block buff options are ukko ,uggo and wukong .

I use michinaki with archer because archer is weak affinity vs mischief this time around so i needed a backup... i could try with artak over michinaki and just hope i dont get screwed over by a weak hit when i need that hex

Nekmo i wouldnt replace .. its not just inc spd .. its the 30% tm boost , makes the team go zoom !


I know a LOT of these bring the same thing hence why i made this post ...i will try most suggestions so far too ^^ i want to possibly free some of them to use on other hydra teams

Here what i currently can work with . those not in vault are mastery+booked 

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Vault are these ..no books no masteries except the rares !

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 15, 2024, 01:0903/15/24
06/24/19
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Lyryal

Thanks everyone for their input ^^ To answer everyone in a single post ..


Krixia : used for block buff/remove buff then into other form for remove debuff and cd reduction , stay in alternate form when mischief didnt respawn . My other block buff options are ukko ,uggo and wukong .

I use michinaki with archer because archer is weak affinity vs mischief this time around so i needed a backup... i could try with artak over michinaki and just hope i dont get screwed over by a weak hit when i need that hex

Nekmo i wouldnt replace .. its not just inc spd .. its the 30% tm boost , makes the team go zoom !


I know a LOT of these bring the same thing hence why i made this post ...i will try most suggestions so far too ^^ i want to possibly free some of them to use on other hydra teams

Here what i currently can work with . those not in vault are mastery+booked 

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Vault are these ..no books no masteries except the rares !

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Personally I'd drop Duchess and Krixia for Mikage and Monkae.  Just kinda have to deal with Torment but Mik can pseudo cleanse it at least. 

Mar 15, 2024, 03:2003/15/24
Mar 15, 2024, 03:24(edited)
04/24/22
820

Thanks short , this is the result of your suggestion ^^ no reviver made it scary -.-

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dthorne04Moderator
Mar 15, 2024, 04:3403/15/24
12/30/20
6215

short does know his stuff. :) and nicely done, lyryal.

also, your roster is incredibly loaded for hydra, on top of what you used for this run. 

Artak, Cardiels, Raz, 2x Gnut, Lydia, Harimas, Ukko, Kantra, Duchess, Husks, Uugos. Crazy stuff there. :)

Mar 16, 2024, 03:0103/16/24
04/24/22
820

Thanks  


And i know i have a lot of good hydra champs ... im just rly bad at forming teams and making them work properly i either get too much of the same or dont bring important stuff >.< also lazarius is also now built and cardiel#2 just got a 4* blessing >.<

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 16, 2024, 15:5003/16/24
06/24/19
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Lyryal

Thanks short , this is the result of your suggestion ^^ no reviver made it scary -.-

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Nicely done!  No reviver can definitely be a bit scary but it's the easiest way to push damage since so few of them are super viable for Hydra.

Mar 16, 2024, 18:4103/16/24
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ShortOnSkillz

Nicely done!  No reviver can definitely be a bit scary but it's the easiest way to push damage since so few of them are super viable for Hydra.

Ukko works nicely for Hydra.  

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 16, 2024, 19:0803/16/24
12/30/20
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WileyMan

Ukko works nicely for Hydra.  

he does but he's pretty close to 2nd/3rd team material for lyryal (or with similar rosters) imo, assuming we're trying to push max damage per key

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 16, 2024, 19:1403/16/24
06/24/19
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WileyMan

Ukko works nicely for Hydra.  

Hes a decent safety net but in the context or maximizing damage he's one that gets left behind fairly quickly. 

Mar 16, 2024, 19:2603/16/24
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dthorne04

he does but he's pretty close to 2nd/3rd team material for lyryal (or with similar rosters) imo, assuming we're trying to push max damage per key

I agree that Lyryal has some serious meta toons for Hydra.  Of the team he just posted for Brutal, I have only the two freebies: Rathalos & WuKong.  

Ukko is the exception that proves the rule concerning most revivers in Hydra, but Lyryal has two of them and they can be very useful, depending on the team setup.

Mar 16, 2024, 19:3203/16/24
Mar 16, 2024, 19:33(edited)
01/31/20
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ShortOnSkillz

Hes a decent safety net but in the context or maximizing damage he's one that gets left behind fairly quickly. 

Well, we all have to work with what we have, and I get to play Hydra w/o the truly meta toons. Here is what you can do with an Ukko-led team:  

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dthorne04Moderator
Mar 16, 2024, 19:3503/16/24
12/30/20
6215

the thing is we're working within the constructs of the posted roster and that allows us to do some pretty goofy stuff with nekmo + no revivers in our top team, then something like raz + cardiel in our next one since that'll give us speed boost

given how much overlap there is in the dps options from a utility standpoint, we're just looking for ways to streamline damage

it's why shamael would probably be the best Hydra pull for this account right now, why if you have any sort of damage mitigation, healing, etc. in a team he's just so much better than duchess as a Torment counter. more turns = more damage

Mar 29, 2024, 04:4403/29/24
04/24/22
820

Clan unlocked NM hydra last week .. finally got my 1st try at it this week .. 


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Mar 29, 2024, 06:3403/29/24
04/24/22
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WileyMan

Well, we all have to work with what we have, and I get to play Hydra w/o the truly meta toons. Here is what you can do with an Ukko-led team:  

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Thats ukko lead but teumesia and shamael :P question tho ... how would i get my ukko to do as much dmg as yours did ? My support always seem to be in the 10-20m at best ... Maybe you can give me some advice on that for me to learn ^^ would love if my ukko did even half the dmg yours do >.<