"Now is it available to all? No."

Can't really compare the two then, I think. One is a pack that's available to everyone and one is available to a fraction of a fraction of the player base to onboard folks who've been gone for awhile.

I prefer Forge Pass to this iteration of Champion Pass. It's tough for me to get excited about most champions though, so what moves me might not move another and vice versa. 

OPs exact words "Best Deal in Raid". Not "Best deal for regular players" or "Best deal for non-returning players" And its factually, by price, an inaccurate claim. 

I'm not riled up, you quoted me and seem to want to continue doing so yet not being the original target of my point. I can't make my point any clearer and its not disputable as a factually wrong statement. You're welcome to continue assuming emotions but given the amount of times you've chosen to quote me here and in other threads to dispute my opinion or statement(while ignoring the wrong info of many others) I have to wonder if I'm being targetted as a possibility.

Not to brag but I am pretty good at completing the champion chase daily quests. Haven't failed on one yet. 

Priest Guardians Price breakdown for a $5 Xena based  on the  many offers  in the shop and  pricing I see evryday

ALL pricing in Canadian dollars !

only 2 times have I ever seen this deal in Raid   5 sacreds  for $54

Therefore  my value  on the 1 sacred shard  is $10  

5 star chicken  is $5  when on sale

avater $5 (some will agrue that perhaps)

Full accessory set 6 star lego (3  pieces) $20

Full artifact set not all 6 star lego $25

Brews/potions/150 gems/100 multi battles/600K silver/few days of XP/clan boss key/glyph/energy   $15

Xena $5

Total $85 

 Dam good deal for a guaranteed  lego but some will rather take their chances  on shards. I know  my luck and  I would easily spend a few $100s  to try and  get Xena from any shard  pulls ;)

Hello, you are a mod. You aren't allowed to argue facts. This is semantics, I am seeing. Instead you must allow others to argue semantics, must allow them tho handwaive the things they don't like, as well as argue incessantly about things, and you must never ever qoute anyone. :)

Can't believe you're always forgetting these rules, smh. Or maybe I can believe it, you evil polite Canadian.

I'm sorry :(

I'll try to be a better automaton in 2024. 

Your words were "$85 Canadian for a Lego and tons  of  loot along with a sacred shard"

My point was the Sacred is free and should not be considered part of what you get for $85 Canadian.

I would be interested in your breakdown of ONLY the items you get for $85 (not including any of the free items anyone gets with Battle Pass for completion) and how it makes Xena cost less than $5. I'm going to assume the $5 is based on the $40 USD price. 

What I show as included for $40 USD are: 30 Plarium Points, 150 Gems, 3 Rank 6 Accessories, 5 Superior Arcane Potions, 5 Superior Force Potions, 500k Silver, 1 Rank 5 Chicken, 1 Demon Lord Key, 1 Rank 5 Speed Glyph, 1 Rank 5 Attack Glyph and 10 Force Brews.

https://hellhades.com/raid/pack-offer-calculator/

What can be calculated out of that is 30 Plarium Points, 150 Gems, 500k Silver, 10 Superior Potions, 1 Rank 5 Chicken, 1 CB Key and 10 Force Brews for a total estimated value of $5 USD

That leaves $35. We'll subtract $5 for Xena (rounding up) which gives us $30 remaining.

Again your words I have quoted are "Now if you really want  me to price everything out in that pack to prove Xena is  less than $5  I can do that for  you. "

So that means you're pricing 2 Rank 5 Glyphs and 3 Rank 6 Accessories at $30 as what most players who spend would pay? 

So. Just to respond to this specifically, and to try to steer this conversation somewhere productive. The pass to get the free lego is 55 CAD. The 85 CAD version us just 30 bucks to skip the event - which, to be fair, as I mentioned earlier, isn't something to scoff at either. For the equivalent of less than an hour of work, you complete the event and save however much time it would have otherwise taken you.

Now - as to the 55 for a lego. Previous lego-related events, be it guaranteed legos, or the various incarnations of the events, required anywhere from 12-20 sacred shards to complete. For simplicity we'll call it 15. In the process of pulling 15, you'll probably get at least one other lego, which will have a varying degree of value. 15 sacred is probably worth about 45 bucks, so, on the surface I'd probably call this an okay deal, not great, but not terrible either. 

The rest of the stuff you get is just icing. What you're buying is the lego.

Long story short: You guys can spend your money how you want in a game like this. At the end of the day, it definitely is a gotcha game and they dangle the keys in front of your face going "oh look at what you can get here!" by spending a boatload of money, with only the CHANCE to get the guy you want.

I've been playing raid for about 8 months and I've never seen a game try so hard to spam you with buying every little thing, and then plarium just doubles-down by making even harder events or more expensive and thinks people will still buy them. 

Again, it's fine if you want to spend your money how you want, but at the end the of the day, plarium is being tone-deaf to 95% of it's customers and all they seem to cater to is 5% of the whales that play. Seriously, why would I want to spend 100 bucks of my hard earned money with a 1% chance to get legendaries during 2x events and not even get it? It's literally just a gambling game at the end of the day. 

Long story short: You guys can spend your money how you want in a game like this. At the end of the day, it definitely is a gotcha game and they dangle the keys in front of your face going "oh look at what you can get here!" by spending a boatload of money, with only the CHANCE to get the guy you want.

I've been playing raid for about 8 months and I've never seen a game try so hard to spam you with buying every little thing, and then plarium just doubles-down by making even harder events or more expensive and thinks people will still buy them. 

Again, it's fine if you want to spend your money how you want, but at the end the of the day, plarium is being tone-deaf to 95% of it's customers and all they seem to cater to is 5% of the whales that play. Seriously, why would I want to spend 100 bucks of my hard earned money with a 1% chance to get legendaries during 2x events and not even get it? It's literally just a gambling game at the end of the day. 

95% of players not customers. I think this caters to any spender of any level.  That's my worthless f2p opinion 😆 

Good deal, yes. Best, idk.  Poor math by the Canadian, definitely!