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Endgame players need an alternative for Champ Training

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Oct 6, 2023, 13:2310/06/23
06/25/20
6719

Endgame players need an alternative for Champ Training

Of all of the events/tournaments in fusions, Champ Training is the singular one that is absolutely pointless. I literally have zero need for food. I have hundreds of 4* food and nearly a hundred 5* food, waiting fruitlessly for a future that'll never come. There is absolutely no chance I'll ever find myself suddenly needing all of that.

So here's my suggestion - let us turn 6* food into ancient shards. I'm not sure exactly what equation to use - 1:1 feels a bit too cheap, while 6:1 feels way too expensive. My gut is telling me somewhere around 2:1 or 3:1 should be right.

The ratio needs to be high enough to essentially dissuade anyone from taking this approach when they actually have at least some value in using them for their intended purpose. Basically, if there's ever a champ that you think might even *at some point* be useful to you at 60, you should want to use the food for that instead.

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Oct 6, 2023, 15:1010/06/23
06/24/19
2439

Interesting suggestion.  I'll pass it along.

Oct 6, 2023, 19:2210/06/23
05/26/22
590

I will trade them to you for a Wuzgar.

Oct 6, 2023, 19:2610/06/23
604

2:1 for 1 ancient? LoL  At brutal 12/3, 5 sec a run. Very easy to earn 6 star chickens and dont forget, not need just run can reach training with silvers too. Thats would be an very easy ancient shard farming. 

Oct 6, 2023, 20:1410/06/23
06/25/20
6719

Like I said - the specific math is up in the air. But no, that would still be an absolutely terrible investment of energy. You'd be spending thousands of energy to build 6-star food just to turn into a single ancient shard?

Oct 7, 2023, 01:4910/07/23
12/18/19
351

Quick google search gave me that raising a single 6 star food is around 5k energy give or take

And ancient shard drop rate in dungeons is 0,5% which makes getting one at dunglvl 24 a 3600 energy andat dunglvl 25 4000 energy

By trading in food youre not getting any possibly good loot from 200 dungeon runs so trading in a single 6 star food for single ancient seems, by my math, even a bit expensive, correct me if my math is garbage lol

Oct 7, 2023, 01:5710/07/23
06/25/20
6719

Correct. As it should. The point of this is not to give people a viable alternative for energy use. The point is for people like me, there's literally no benefit to champ training. I spend energy on food so it can sit in my vault.

Oct 7, 2023, 02:0310/07/23
12/18/19
351

Man you should build meme champs and meme teams, lvl 60 warboys with godly gear and so on, for live arena, might give you some laughs

Oct 7, 2023, 05:3710/07/23
604
sharkium

Quick google search gave me that raising a single 6 star food is around 5k energy give or take

And ancient shard drop rate in dungeons is 0,5% which makes getting one at dunglvl 24 a 3600 energy andat dunglvl 25 4000 energy

By trading in food youre not getting any possibly good loot from 200 dungeon runs so trading in a single 6 star food for single ancient seems, by my math, even a bit expensive, correct me if my math is garbage lol

Sure! :D


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Oct 7, 2023, 06:3010/07/23
12/18/19
351
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Sure! :D


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This will eat through your gold faster than fat kid through cookie store

Oct 7, 2023, 11:3210/07/23
10/08/17
1095

I do like this idea

Myself not being at that stage  of the game but understand your situation  and believe  you offer a great solution

:)

Oct 7, 2023, 14:2710/07/23
604
sharkium

This will eat through your gold faster than fat kid through cookie store

Gold ? Maybe silvers but not. Just i tell you. 3 mins runs at brutal 12/3 make three 3stars 30 lvl chickens avg 400k silvers (thats almost 3x value three 4 star heroes upgrade to zero to lvl40) from 152 energy. And we talk about end game players, which can easily do 4m silvers from clan shops/spider farming/forge silver farm etc


Oct 7, 2023, 14:5010/07/23
12/18/19
351

If you have that kind of gold or energy then by all means you should and all endgame players should get those ancients, but at max for one (1)  six star food, ancients arent worths as much as youre making them up to be guys 😀

Oct 7, 2023, 15:2410/07/23
604

Not you wrote, 6star caracter need 5k energy ? From 254 energy+ ~600k silver (other silvers came from 12/3 farming) i did 2 6star character between 7 mins. Dont forget and game players has many 4 star food chickens, they can eat the epic characters too and just see Choosen Plays,Skrach and other content creators vids, many players has hundred millions silvers.

I'm an average spenders, but many times i have 80 or more 5 stars foods and plus chickens above this .

Oct 7, 2023, 16:1810/07/23
12/18/19
351
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Not you wrote, 6star caracter need 5k energy ? From 254 energy+ ~600k silver (other silvers came from 12/3 farming) i did 2 6star character between 7 mins. Dont forget and game players has many 4 star food chickens, they can eat the epic characters too and just see Choosen Plays,Skrach and other content creators vids, many players has hundred millions silvers.

I'm an average spenders, but many times i have 80 or more 5 stars foods and plus chickens above this .

300 2stars is needed for one 6star

100 2stars you level up  ~33*80=2640 energy

25 3stars you level up ~8*196=1568 energy

5 4stars you level up ~2*416 = 832 energy

total = 2640+1568+832=5040 energy

Im not going to decipher the rest 😂

Oct 7, 2023, 17:0110/07/23
604

Lol what a mathematic. First you dont just pulling 1 stars, every ancient pulling what you want to  exchange generate too a 3 star chickens minimum or epic chickens! This is the end game.

You needed 1 6 stars 5040 energy in theory but i did in practice 2 pieces 6 star chickens from 254 energy and 600k silvers+what came from 12/3 brutal. Thats not a little differences. :DDD

I understand you want easy ancient farming, but that will never happen in my oppinion where the Plarium selling ancient shards 20-30 pieces for 50 USD. But end players would create easily this value shards without efforts.

Oct 7, 2023, 17:0610/07/23
06/20/19
2181

I like the idea, anything to ameliorate the problem.  I have at least 40 leggos at 6/60 fully ascended, sitting in the vault unequipped no reason other than champ training.

Oct 7, 2023, 18:1710/07/23
06/25/20
6719
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Lol what a mathematic. First you dont just pulling 1 stars, every ancient pulling what you want to  exchange generate too a 3 star chickens minimum or epic chickens! This is the end game.

You needed 1 6 stars 5040 energy in theory but i did in practice 2 pieces 6 star chickens from 254 energy and 600k silvers+what came from 12/3 brutal. Thats not a little differences. :DDD

I understand you want easy ancient farming, but that will never happen in my oppinion where the Plarium selling ancient shards 20-30 pieces for 50 USD. But end players would create easily this value shards without efforts.

You're 100% missing the point. The goal of this is not to give people a way of "farming" ancient shards. The goal is to give people an actual purpose behind the Champ Training events. As it stands it's literally a pointless event. If you think 2:1 is too "cheap", then fine, make it 3:1. W/e.

And no, you didn't make two 6-star chickens for 254 energy and 600k silver. You made two 6-star chickens from a stockpile of resources you've built up BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO OTHER USE FOR IT.

Oct 7, 2023, 22:1210/07/23
604
kramaswamy.kr

You're 100% missing the point. The goal of this is not to give people a way of "farming" ancient shards. The goal is to give people an actual purpose behind the Champ Training events. As it stands it's literally a pointless event. If you think 2:1 is too "cheap", then fine, make it 3:1. W/e.

And no, you didn't make two 6-star chickens for 254 energy and 600k silver. You made two 6-star chickens from a stockpile of resources you've built up BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO OTHER USE FOR IT.

Still you want easy ancient farm. No Plarium sell it for 50 USD.

Ok i did from 3star chickens. No big deal plus 2x9 run from 2 star chickens. Results = plus 144 energy but minus those silvers, because thats came from those plus runs. End game players has over hundreds ancients between a months. Thats hundreds minimum 3 star foods. Thats stockpile has every endgame player, no matter if YOU wrote capital letters or not. "Just relax no need to get upset and shout" :DDDD

Oct 7, 2023, 23:1010/07/23
06/25/20
6719

You really just don't get what I'm trying to say. I'm not sure how to explain this more clearly. Champ training involves me throwing food at random people so they can sit in a pile of other food. It doesn't benefit me at all. This is the only event/tournament in the game which yields *absolutely zero* benefit. The only reason I do it at all is for the fusion events. My goal is simply to translate that food into *something* useful. NOBODY will be using this as a means to get ancient shards, if they have ANY use at all for the food. This is ONLY for people who have *zero* use for food.

Oct 7, 2023, 23:3510/07/23
604

I understand what you want. But i wrote again just like to a 5 years old children again. Thats easy ancient farming. Try to find other solution for character training, thats a bad conversion for Plarium. I bet they really dont want to change to free, their ancient shards packs, what their consumers need to buy for pulls.