In theory after a few weeks, clans with infinity teams would only be matched against other clans with infiinity teams, but then that just brings us to a problem already prevalent in CVC:
Krakens clan-hopping to abuse the matchmaking system and get a weaker match-up.
I say again there needs to be a cool-down period, at least among higher tiers, where a player has to have been a member of a clan for a set amount of time before they're eligible to participate in cvc/clash
i agree a little more thought needs to go into match making, i can see on the hydra clash screen that the other 4 clans my clan is against is a "fair" matchup in terms of level, but my clan also sits at the bottom of it with around 500m dmg dealt (we suck) and the other 4 teams have around 1.5-2 billion damage each :D
i agree a little more thought needs to go into match making, i can see on the hydra clash screen that the other 4 clans my clan is against is a "fair" matchup in terms of level, but my clan also sits at the bottom of it with around 500m dmg dealt (we suck) and the other 4 teams have around 1.5-2 billion damage each :D
So matchmaking should include the sucking factor? Sure the mods will pass that right along 😆
So matchmaking should include the sucking factor? Sure the mods will pass that right along 😆
lol what i mean is yes were all the same level clan but there is clearly a vast difference in quaility of players in each clan even if we are the same level, so maybe it shouldnt just be based off just 1 factor :D
perhaps they could take into consideration the total player power of a clan as well as the clans level, basing it off just the clans level is just a lazy approach, but at the same time this is plarium im talking about so maybe this is as good as it gets.
lol what i mean is yes were all the same level clan but there is clearly a vast difference in quaility of players in each clan even if we are the same level, so maybe it shouldnt just be based off just 1 factor :D
perhaps they could take into consideration the total player power of a clan as well as the clans level, basing it off just the clans level is just a lazy approach, but at the same time this is plarium im talking about so maybe this is as good as it gets.
It's the 1st week so some growing pains should be expected. Hopefully the matchmaking smooths out a bit and leads to some good competition.
i dont know how to progress my 9 month old account to that of a guy whos been playing for 4 years without spending 1 million dollars in plariums store :( but feel free to enlighten me
hilarious made up example aside for the competition you're going to see aside
well I imagine working on my teams and arena game, speeding up dungeon runs to get better builds rather than yelling into the ether on a daily basis would yield benefits
hilarious made up example aside for the competition you're going to see aside
well I imagine working on my teams and arena game, speeding up dungeon runs to get better builds rather than yelling into the ether on a daily basis would yield benefits
so crazy it might work :)
ur hatred towards me makes you unable to see clear flaws in the game :)
ur hatred towards me makes you unable to see clear flaws in the game :)
Oh I don't hate you buddy. Just not a fan of when people are prone to interjecting whining, excuses and a constant stream of negativity whenever they get a chance when in reality they don't really know what they're talking about most of the time.
Oh I don't hate you buddy. Just not a fan of when people are prone to interjecting whining, excuses and a constant stream of negativity whenever they get a chance when in reality they don't really know what they're talking about most of the time.
Respectfully. :)
i done "whine" i state facts lol, and you ignore facts, this is why we dont see eye to eye :)
that picture is a good example of what i meant, 5 teams very similar clan levels with a gap of nearly 11 billion damage :P
it's almost like some people have put more time into it, lol
look at the average damage per keys, total keys used, etc. if clans don't take hydra seriously then yeah, they'll get dumpstered and moved down in matchups.
not to mention there is a skill/effort gap in making better teams. the top guy i posted should have nekmo in his best team, but he doesn't.
it's almost like some people have put more time into it, lol
look at the average damage per keys, total keys used, etc. if clans don't take hydra seriously then yeah, they'll get dumpstered and moved down in matchups.
not to mention there is a skill/effort gap in making better teams. the top guy i posted should have nekmo in his best team, but he doesn't.
lol and once again you just bypass my perfectly valid points to inflate ur own ego, there is very clearly a significant difference in the quaility of the people in each of those clans in his picture even if the clan levels are similar, as we can very well see from the billions of points of damage difference.
am i hating on any of them? no im sure they worked very hard to hit those milestones of damage and congratz to all of them , am i saying the matchup system could do a better job? yes
lol and once again you just bypass my perfectly valid points to inflate ur own ego, there is very clearly a significant difference in the quaility of the people in each of those clans in his picture even if the clan levels are similar, as we can very well see from the billions of points of damage difference.
am i hating on any of them? no im sure they worked very hard to hit those milestones of damage and congratz to all of them , am i saying the matchup system could do a better job? yes
So you happen to be incorrect on how the matchups were made, for one. This is part of why you are being disagreed with.
Secondly, no personal attacks, period. Even if you don't like that someone else is disagreeing with you.
Let me break down how the matchups were done, so you can speak from a more informed perspective when choosing to get personal.
Each clan is ranked based on the Clan Power. And that Clan Power was used to build the matchups. So the top Worldwide 1-5 were all matched against each other. Sacred Pandas, GnL, Gallifrey, ET and IPR were all matched against each other. Then 6-10 were matched against each other, then 11-15, and so on.
The screenshots you are seeing even with huge damage disparities happen to be from clans that were all immediately adjacent to each other in overall power, which SHOULD be at least some rudimentary indicator of the strength of those clans. It had ZERO to do with clan level, and was not a random scrambling of every clan within a level. It was the top 3k clans matched straight down the line.
Let me provide you an example from Thorne's own screenshot:
These clans are all 15, 16 and 17th level, so not the same clan level, nor did that have anything to do with it. These clans, at the time of the matchup, were immediately adjacent to each other by their own account power totals.
Here are there totals today, after a few days of minor power changes:
I believe QNGD specifically was 992 when the Hydra Clash began, so basically all of these clans were in the 990-995 range at the start time, and that is reflected even days later.
PR-S has changed the most since the matchup but they've swapped some of their members out and around, I assume within a cluster?
Anyways, this isn't me guessing on how the matchups worked, I know how they were made. And moving forward, the plan is to match up clans based on their damage to Hydra. So huge Hydra clans with huge damage will see similiar clans to themselves, with similiar Hydra Clash numbers.
But for this first one, the Beta Test run? The Clan Ranking based on Clan Power was chosen as the selecting factor for what clans got matched up against each other.
Personally it would be better for me and my clan to match up against rando clans of similiar clan level moving forward, but instead we will be matching the closest Clash scores. Gonna be tougher next week than this one, for sure.
So in summary: Worldwide Clan Ranking determined matchups, those matchups are showing which clans of nearly equal capability actually focus on Hydra, and moving forward the intention is to see matchups based on a clan's success versus Hydra.
Hope that helps you get a feel for how Hydra Clash is working, and will be! :)