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Trips Custom Tournament Value Evaluator when please? FUSION ADDED!!! xtra xtra URGENT!!!

Trips Custom Tournament Value Evaluator when please? FUSION ADDED!!! xtra xtra URGENT!!!

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Jun 26, 2023, 14:0406/26/23
12/19/19
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Urlibu FTP

Yes, leggo books are really valuable for me still. But here's the thing: I'm really low on gems. Under 1k. Even to the point where I now stopped farming IT on weekdays until I'm back up at 2-3k.

14k champ training with t2 stone + leggo book have become the standard. That's worth spending energy on. Then there's all the special events that pop up lately between fusions. Those can be really high value. And I just joined a T6 clan that demands I run a bunch of spider 10h every 2 weeks. There also were the two DDs with lots of oil, that was a massive energy drain. Honestly I don't know how you guys do it. I have a very very hard time keeping my net gem flow above 0 unless I buy daily gem pack.


About this DD being "triple dipping":

I can either run dragon 10h, or dragon 25 with food. The value of the latter has dropped a lot now that even 6* epic gear is sold without rolling. I have to discount the gear almost entirely. Also, I'm at 8k champ training (all in 12-3, no brews) and only 1400 DD points. Even if I maxed out dragon tourney, I'd still be about 2k energy short of the leggo book. So I stick to my initial statement that it's just bad value.

Btw, I just watched a video by Eharbad today where he complains about the state of the game and the massive stat inflation. For me this hasn't been a bad thing, as it's allowing me to catch up really fast to older accounts that spent years farming stage 25. But in that process I have radically shifted my valuation of gear. With blessings and oils, dungeons aren't even that key to high stats anymore. Which is why I try to only run 10h (and 4h FK sigh). Anything below 6* leggo is questionable these days.

Tell your clan leader to f off.  Only need to bang spider once a month during PR, and limited gems if any.  Tag and forge are the key. Much better gem value in tag, at least for me :)

But yes, as f2p you can't do every good value.  And at your level, progression is much more all encompassing of gear, masteries, new champs. Haven't seen the video, but yes the game has shifted from nothing to do (long ago) to easier to progress fast (with spending of course). The easy to play as f2p mantra echoing throughout is only if you've been playing 3+ years and learned to play the resource long game.  And this ability wanes over time.

The f2p veterans always were in a 2nd tier behind whales, now in a 3rd tier behind the new spenders... and this will inevitably continue. 

Progress is simply a function of time and $$$. Both can be optimized with efficiency, but time is constrained equally, while spend is not. The exact formula was on page 2 of the June mailer.


Jun 26, 2023, 14:4006/26/23
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PS: @Urlibu FTP 

Only thing you are definitely doing wrong imo, is skipping IT.  That is a fixed cost imo.  

And you probably spent too many gems in spider for cvc.

Should be able to stay break even on gems unless you are pushing the catch-up wagon too hard.  In which case, you need a light spender recommendation engine which I am unqualified for  :)

Guessing 1) forge pass 2) best gem/energy deal available 3) ???



harleQuinnModerator
Jun 26, 2023, 22:3806/26/23
02/24/19
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Is the Summer of YOLO part of best value maximization? lol

Jun 26, 2023, 23:2606/26/23
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harleQuinn

Is the Summer of YOLO part of best value maximization? lol

The alternate utility function inordinately values the fun factor of popping shards.

Jun 26, 2023, 23:4806/26/23
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harleQuinn

You need help with some champ stats for an easy duo team? Can DM my builds your way.

I will accept this offer and grind up to 25 this coming weekend... time to bite the bullet and hop on the Oil Express.  

My stage 7 team successfully got to 11, baby steps.

A booked Godseeker and ??? Assuming rebuilding my dreng in regen is easiest?


harleQuinnModerator
Jun 27, 2023, 01:2206/27/23
02/24/19
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Trips

I will accept this offer and grind up to 25 this coming weekend... time to bite the bullet and hop on the Oil Express.  

My stage 7 team successfully got to 11, baby steps.

A booked Godseeker and ??? Assuming rebuilding my dreng in regen is easiest?


I run Ninja cause it's WAY faster, and I'm sure you have the gear for it

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 27, 2023, 02:5006/27/23
12/30/20
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Also on team Ninja/Aniri. 

Get them both in Regen (aniri in Immo too), copy what Quinn's doing (mostly did the same which is a complete shocker)

get to farming, no more dawdling :)

Jun 27, 2023, 02:5906/27/23
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dthorne04

Also on team Ninja/Aniri. 

Get them both in Regen (aniri in Immo too), copy what Quinn's doing (mostly did the same which is a complete shocker)

get to farming, no more dawdling :)

So 24 not 25?

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 27, 2023, 03:1206/27/23
12/30/20
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Trips

So 24 not 25?

Yep. 

Can also be on the lookout for trying to book another Aniri properly in case you want to food grind on 24.

Jun 27, 2023, 11:4206/27/23
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dthorne04

Yep. 

Can also be on the lookout for trying to book another Aniri properly in case you want to food grind on 24.

Is 25 not better than 24? If I will be running SD on PC overnight mainly and I don't have unlimited energy the time difference seems trivial, no?

Jun 27, 2023, 13:3406/27/23
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I was skipping training due to laziness... if u r a chicken/brew hoarder....

DOUBLE DIP NOW!!!!

Just banged our 10k in 30 minutes for lego book and a Kickstart on path.

This prime opportunity was foreshadowed in the June mailer as a possibility...


Jun 27, 2023, 14:0106/27/23
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BUMP ABOVE SPAM

33 minutes left

10k training points and 21k Path of Sh!t Points.... those brews and chickens arent collecting interest!

harleQuinnModerator
Jun 27, 2023, 20:0506/27/23
02/24/19
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Trips

Is 25 not better than 24? If I will be running SD on PC overnight mainly and I don't have unlimited energy the time difference seems trivial, no?

Time difference is NEVER trivial.

Jun 28, 2023, 00:5506/28/23
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harleQuinn

You need help with some champ stats for an easy duo team? Can DM my builds your way.

Gracious Queen Quinn 


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Cross one off my procrastination 

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 3, 2023, 06:2207/03/23
02/24/19
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Trips

Gracious Queen Quinn 


i

Cross one off my procrastination 

I'm very happy it's working for you. Yay!

Jul 3, 2023, 12:1807/03/23
Jul 3, 2023, 12:18(edited)
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Obviously this fusion is a go 


Jul 3, 2023, 12:2207/03/23
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Preliminary fusion plan

Day 1: Brutal 12.3 (only use expiring energy, save anything not expiring til DD tomorrow)

Day 2: solo spider 20 (hit it hard!!)

Jul 3, 2023, 12:5207/03/23
06/05/22
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Trips

Preliminary fusion plan

Day 1: Brutal 12.3 (only use expiring energy, save anything not expiring til DD tomorrow)

Day 2: solo spider 20 (hit it hard!!)

it'll be CvC, surely you mean spider 10h?

With how big this fusion is, I won't bother with the 15k milestone on champ training. tier 2 soulstone is nice, but has become pretty standard for training events. Platinum chest holds almost nothing of value.

That means I'll have plenty of energy to farm higher stages of spider.

Jul 3, 2023, 12:5507/03/23
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Urlibu FTP

it'll be CvC, surely you mean spider 10h?

With how big this fusion is, I won't bother with the 15k milestone on champ training. tier 2 soulstone is nice, but has become pretty standard for training events. Platinum chest holds almost nothing of value.

That means I'll have plenty of energy to farm higher stages of spider.

non PR cvc, I will be running spider 20.  Get enough cvc points from tag.  Fusion should be your #1 priority.  Maximizing your resources for that at the expense of what 20k incfremental cvc points in spider for how much xtra energy... not worth it.  buy a tag refill or 3 per day, do a little extra forge....

Jul 3, 2023, 12:5607/03/23
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Also, dont do AE event until CvC starts, that alone is huge