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Nov 27, 2022, 03:0611/27/22
Nov 27, 2022, 03:12(edited)
05/03/20
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I was using Draco as the lead.  I realized his aura wont work in CB.  I am moving Doomie to the lead.  Will post results as soon as I run a battle.  

Everyone died with Doomie as speed lead.  


EDIT: Battle results.  

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 27, 2022, 03:1811/27/22
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ClosedPoly

I was using Draco as the lead.  I realized his aura wont work in CB.  I am moving Doomie to the lead.  Will post results as soon as I run a battle.  

Everyone died with Doomie as speed lead.  


EDIT: Battle results.  

Heya Poly.

We don't want to put anyone with a speed aura in the lead slot, your runs will fail every time if you do so.

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 27, 2022, 03:1911/27/22
02/24/19
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Also, I will take a look at all your builds tomorrow in the calculator to see what's going wrong and where. :)

Nov 27, 2022, 03:3311/27/22
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harleQuinn

Also, I will take a look at all your builds tomorrow in the calculator to see what's going wrong and where. :)

Thanks.  

Nov 27, 2022, 07:0511/27/22
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I used Heli as Def lead.  He started getting weak at 23 but the team lasted until 40.  The best run yet.  

Nov 28, 2022, 20:0711/28/22
05/22/21
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From the look of it there is nothing wrong with your speeds, your gear just isnt quite there yet to tank the stuns with Helicath shield till the end.

Nov 28, 2022, 23:0011/28/22
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Aute

From the look of it there is nothing wrong with your speeds, your gear just isnt quite there yet to tank the stuns with Helicath shield till the end.

Which stat do I need to improve on Helicath?

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 29, 2022, 00:4011/29/22
Nov 29, 2022, 00:40(edited)
02/24/19
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ClosedPoly

I used Heli as Def lead.  He started getting weak at 23 but the team lasted until 40.  The best run yet.  

Hey Poly, just got done looking at all your gear and speeds. These reports are from Ultra Nightmare, correct? Or are you running it on Nightmare?

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 29, 2022, 00:5011/29/22
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Here's why I ask:

On Nightmare we need to ensure Helicath is not the lead, cause he'll take a stun starting in Turn 6 that will delay his cooldowns and cause the team to eventually fail. You can see that below:

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We will want Rhazin as our team lead on Nightmare, so that Doomy can cleanse her stun before Rhazin would take a turn and lose cooldowns. We also want Rhazin taking the stun cause as your defense based champ, she'll take less damage on the AoE1 and AoE2, letting her more quickly recover to full before the next stun.

On Ultra Nightmare we don't have this stun problem, as Doomy rotates to the top of each round very quickly, meaning she will clear stuns before anyone goes. You can see this here:

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This is a good spot to have Helicopter as the lead, to get that bonus defense from his aura.

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 29, 2022, 00:5311/29/22
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Lastly, as far as Helicath builds, I would suggest getting him up to 5k+ defense if possible. Looks like his speeds (without accounting for speed sets you may use) in your particular tune with those champs built exactly as they are, it looks like you can vary his speeds from 245-249 and still have the proper unkillable tune. So it gives you some wiggle room to work with as you try and up his defense to give you bigger shields to tank the stun with. :)

Nov 29, 2022, 10:1111/29/22
Nov 29, 2022, 10:27(edited)
05/22/21
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ClosedPoly

Which stat do I need to improve on Helicath?

What harleQuinn said, more defense for Helicath. Looks like you're running accuracy banner on him with his only skill needing accuracy being Weaken on his A1, since you got weaken from both Rhazin and Draco, you might as well swap it out for defense banner at least for now to see if it helps.

If you do, look for defense banner with %defense substat and see if you can get any rolls into that substat. Of course, if you have already good accu banner with defense and speed substats, it might not be worth the trouble.

Could as well try slapping maybe 2 pieces of immortal for extra health and a bit of heals in between stuns if you have one with good defense/speed substats, Vampiric would would work even better, but finding 4 pieces of set gear with stats you need might not be an option for you at this point of game.

If you say you can last until turn 40, you don't need much more to do full run, hope you sort it out :)

Nov 29, 2022, 10:3811/29/22
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harleQuinn

Hey Poly, just got done looking at all your gear and speeds. These reports are from Ultra Nightmare, correct? Or are you running it on Nightmare?

I am running the team on UNM with Helicath as the lead for his Def aura.  

Nov 29, 2022, 11:2411/29/22
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harleQuinn

Lastly, as far as Helicath builds, I would suggest getting him up to 5k+ defense if possible. Looks like his speeds (without accounting for speed sets you may use) in your particular tune with those champs built exactly as they are, it looks like you can vary his speeds from 245-249 and still have the proper unkillable tune. So it gives you some wiggle room to work with as you try and up his defense to give you bigger shields to tank the stun with. :)

I got Helitcath up to 4647 Def.  Thats the best I can do for now.  He died on turn 39 and the team on turn 40.  I will try to add more Def as I get better gear.  Thanks for the help.  

Nov 29, 2022, 11:2511/29/22
05/03/20
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Aute

What harleQuinn said, more defense for Helicath. Looks like you're running accuracy banner on him with his only skill needing accuracy being Weaken on his A1, since you got weaken from both Rhazin and Draco, you might as well swap it out for defense banner at least for now to see if it helps.

If you do, look for defense banner with %defense substat and see if you can get any rolls into that substat. Of course, if you have already good accu banner with defense and speed substats, it might not be worth the trouble.

Could as well try slapping maybe 2 pieces of immortal for extra health and a bit of heals in between stuns if you have one with good defense/speed substats, Vampiric would would work even better, but finding 4 pieces of set gear with stats you need might not be an option for you at this point of game.

If you say you can last until turn 40, you don't need much more to do full run, hope you sort it out :)

I dont have 2 pieces of Immortal that I can use without ruining the speed tune.  Its still a work in progress.  

Nov 30, 2022, 10:4211/30/22
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I can 4 key UNM for the best chat.  Thanks everyone for all the help.  

Dec 29, 2022, 08:1012/29/22
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harleQuinn

Lastly, as far as Helicath builds, I would suggest getting him up to 5k+ defense if possible. Looks like his speeds (without accounting for speed sets you may use) in your particular tune with those champs built exactly as they are, it looks like you can vary his speeds from 245-249 and still have the proper unkillable tune. So it gives you some wiggle room to work with as you try and up his defense to give you bigger shields to tank the stun with. :)

I have Heli at 5005 Def but he still dies on Round 39 over 90% of the time.  When Heli does not die on Round 39 its a 2 key team.  

I only need 5% more damage to be 3 key.  Can you suggest something to increase my damage with any of these champs?  

Feb 3, 2023, 19:1802/03/23
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@harleQuinn ....  When you have time can you look at the builds.  

Thank you.  

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 4, 2023, 23:0102/04/23
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ClosedPoly

@harleQuinn ....  When you have time can you look at the builds.  

Thank you.  

Can you post your current builds please?

Feb 5, 2023, 01:3502/05/23
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Stats only or masteries also?


dthorne04Moderator
Feb 5, 2023, 20:2802/05/23
Feb 5, 2023, 20:28(edited)
12/30/20
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ClosedPoly

Stats only or masteries also?


may as well just do it all at once (builds showing gear, masteries, etc) 

almost always best to give whomever is looking at your builds as much information as possible.