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Dec 17, 2024, 07:164 days
02/25/24
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Test Tournament

What is this a joke! I'm always playing with your stupid bots on my team and keep losing! And what is the deal with with team red winning 80-90 percent of the matches pretty frickin one sided in my opinion but hey,nobody cares about anything else but themselves in this screwed up society!Just my opinion, everyone don't get upset now!

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Dec 17, 2024, 07:484 days
05/27/24
10

Agree 100%.

It would seem that Devs will again imbark on another 'test' which ignores player feedback and instead will restrict the number of rounds players can compete in per-day; Tourni -tickets will not be able to be used to increase the number of rounds played per day.

Predicted result:-

Players that are able to score 3k (tanking/sp droping ect) per round will obtain 30k scores in 10 rounds still; everyone else will be chaff at the bottom of the tables. Thus, players will be unable to jockey for lower slot postitions to avoid relegation to lower tables. /bad taste; less likey to play this format.


Good hunting o7


CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Dec 17, 2024, 12:324 days
02/10/23
2079

Hello guys! Thanks a lot for your feedback on the current Tests. Feel free to share more of your thoughts, we will take everything into account 👌

Dec 17, 2024, 12:374 days
01/30/24
32

Hi, CrystalDrew. Can we get a sense of what aspects of previous matchmaking this new test is trying to address?

Dec 17, 2024, 15:444 days
05/05/23
4

this trial tournament is one big BS. Whoever made this up should go rebuild tetris. These reasons you give for getting sick is BS-

Think a little better and fix the matter, because we know that many games have been buried by bad decisions and updates.


Senior Player 76

Dec 17, 2024, 15:504 days
05/05/23
4

Look for creative and visionary people.

This only applies to the Test Tournament

Dec 17, 2024, 16:084 days
05/05/23
4

In this game, it would have been necessary to update match making earlier

Dec 17, 2024, 16:364 days
05/05/23
4
MareCare

Look for creative and visionary people.

This only applies to the Test Tournament

and give me back my ticket i pay

Dec 17, 2024, 17:084 days
01/30/24
32

My 3rd game of the tournament and my 1130 power hangar faced a human player with a nearly 3000 power hangar. My main mech had a combined (mech + weapons) power of less than 400, whereas the human opponent had all mechs in the 550-700 range. And in this game unfortunately even that much of a difference in power is huge. E.g. compare a Nomad at rank 3 with a Slingshot at rank 3. It's a small difference in power (272 vs. 219), but in no way can the two be considered a good matchup.

This huge squad power mismatch is the exact same problem with matchmaking in all of the last three tests. So what exactly is Plarium changing?

I have some ideas for how you can fix matchmaking, Plarium. I know a lot of people have opinions, so I've been holding back with my own thoughts hoping these tests are actually aiming to achieve something positive, but I'm losing hope. Do you want to hear my ideas? After three failed tests, maybe it's about time :-).

Dec 17, 2024, 17:404 days
01/30/24
32

For the 4th game I changed my hangar to roughly 2100 power. Got an opponent with somewhat equivalent squad power (a little under 1900), but with some SP dropping trickery. One strong Orion with storm racks, and some of his 16-capacity mechs holding total 4 capacity weapons (e.g. 2 x RPG2).

So this test, just like the previous two tests, has neither fixed the huge SP disparity problem nor SP dropping problem. In fact the first test from earlier this year added the huge SP disparity problem.. before the first test the only major problem was of SP dropping. 

So I gotta ask again - what exactly is Plarium trying to fix if not these two things :-)?

Dec 18, 2024, 09:033 days
Dec 18, 2024, 15:59(edited)
01/30/24
32

Here's a summary from my matchmaking experience of the first heat (other folks' experiences may vary). I used two hangars - one close to 1100 SP and one close to 2100 (the latter slightly more balanced than the former). Both hangars have only rare and below mechs, rank 3 and below. No epic or legendary mechs. Some epic weapons but no legendary weapons.

  1. The bots were almost always cannon fodder. This is something that I think started with the previous matchmaking test. (That said, if the earlier test is anything to go by, this will quickly change in later games and the bots will become overpowered.)
  2. Both hangars occasionally faced human opponents with much higher hangar powers, including with epic and legendary mechs and weapons. This is something that started with the first test earlier this year, and has been a problem with every test since including this one.
  3. Both hangars occasionally faced human SP droppers, people with similar hangar power but one overly powerful mech. This is not new.. it existed before the tests, and it continues to exist in every new test.
Dec 18, 2024, 12:513 days
Dec 18, 2024, 12:59(edited)
09/26/22
146
CrystalDrew

Hello guys! Thanks a lot for your feedback on the current Tests. Feel free to share more of your thoughts, we will take everything into account 👌

You haven't listened after the last two tests. It's the same garbage as before except for the fact that you can only play a maximum of eight battles which is absolutely ridiculous since the matchmaking is not even close to being balanced as one side is always over-powered over the other, with no way of making up bad games. 

For instance, I was paired with two 6k hangars while I'm 12k and faced off against three 14k+ hangars. Complete wipeout. It's happened with every single one of my losses and the reverse happens when I win. Out of 12 battles so far, there's been ZERO that have been balanced or fair.

Then I see undefeated small players (6-8k) running up the score, getting 40+ kills every game and have yet to face real players. No different than the old system, having to deal with sp droppers which you obviously haven't fixed for almost two years now...

This test should be considered another fail and ended immediately...

Dec 18, 2024, 15:003 days
12/19/22
124
tar

Hi, CrystalDrew. Can we get a sense of what aspects of previous matchmaking this new test is trying to address?

This would be very helpful!!  If we knew the matchmaking rules better, we'd probably be able to be more intelligent (and hopefully less belligerent) in our comments about the tests that are being done.  Its hard for us to know if we should be pointing out things we are seeing or not.

Dec 19, 2024, 00:373 days
Dec 19, 2024, 00:40(edited)
05/31/24
1

The test tourney is AWFUL!! I wasted all mechs in about 20 seconds. Someone from a MUCH higher rank just demolished me and all bots in seconds. He had 30 kills with one mech and 15 with another. I just looked at him and my mech blew up. Cannot play this tourney any longer. 

Also... some mechs are still wayyy overpowered. 

Dec 19, 2024, 08:542 days
01/30/24
32

My observations from heat 2 of the 5v5 test tournament:

  1. Bots were slightly stronger (not outright cannon fodder).
  2. I got lucky in both my matches and my heat grouping, in that I faced noone much more overpowered than me, and my heat group had noone that scored ridiculously high scores. This in general is very rare, but also the limited number of matches per heat definitely helped (since a player's average score mattered more than the total score).
  3. However I did face at least one human opponent that was underpowered compared to me (a 1400+ hangar vs. my 2100+ hangar). 

So the mismatch continues, and I was just extremely lucky to not get the bad end of it.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Dec 19, 2024, 14:132 days
02/10/23
2079

All the comments are taken into account, be sure to share if you have more thoughts,

Note that the system is getting calibrated, and it's highly likely that it will work differently with some time 👌

Dec 19, 2024, 16:182 days
01/30/24
32

Thanks, CrystalDrew. There is one question that some of us have which hasn't been answered yet, i.e. - Can we get a sense of what aspects of previous matchmaking this new test is trying to address? 

As mentioned by GothIxkin, "If we knew the matchmaking rules better, we'd probably be able to be more intelligent (and hopefully less belligerent) in our comments about the tests ".

Dec 19, 2024, 17:022 days
01/30/24
32

First match of heat 3 and my 2126 power hangar faced a 5462 power hangar player. So much for "system is getting calibrated".

Dec 19, 2024, 19:322 days
12/07/21
37

Seriously, the balance is so bad right now........ I wonder what they are "testing" on ????

So let me get this straight?  We paid for this game and its contents, and we are the "test" subjects and not getting any fun outta this game ???  What's the logic in these BS schemes ?


Dec 20, 2024, 01:53Yesterday
09/26/22
146
WTVUA

Seriously, the balance is so bad right now........ I wonder what they are "testing" on ????

So let me get this straight?  We paid for this game and its contents, and we are the "test" subjects and not getting any fun outta this game ???  What's the logic in these BS schemes ?


Exactly. This game isn't in beta anymore (hasn't been for over two years) and yet the players are being used for testing purposes which shouldn't happen if the devs knew what they were doing...

Dec 20, 2024, 04:22Yesterday
Dec 20, 2024, 04:23(edited)
12/19/22
124
CrystalDrew

All the comments are taken into account, be sure to share if you have more thoughts,

Note that the system is getting calibrated, and it's highly likely that it will work differently with some time 👌

Ok, this is enough.  I've been playing for 2 years.  The last year has been terrible.  New mechs and weapons coming WAY TO FAST, and match making keeps getting worse and worse!!!!!!!

When you said you were going to limit the number of tournament plays you could get in a day, I figured that your developers were smart.  Like any good developer, you don't try to change too many things at once.  I figured that we'd have the same match making that we've been having (it had been pretty good) and just limited in the number of attempts a day.

Wow.  just wow.  

I just got done with two matches.  My squad power is roughly 4800.  My first match was against a 6400, 8500, and 9600.  WHAT IN THE HECK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO AGAINST THAT????????????????  

Then it gets better!!!!!  My second match is against a 1900, 1400, and 1100.  I felt like shit in that fight!  I quit for the night.  Yes, I like the points, but i don't get kicks out of slaughtering people.

Do you people have any concept of what fair match making would look like????  You've run this dumb test match making several times now and the match making still stinks!!!!  You can't keep telling us "the system is getting calibrated" and to just give it time.  We have.  LOTS and LOTS!!!  For me, nearly a year!!!

Look, let me make this simple.  I want to go against people who have gear similar or the same as me.  Not people who have gear in their squad 3 tiers above me (or even 1 tear above the best mech in my squad).  I want to go against people where the gear is the same but skill is what matters.  Your idea of "skill based matchmaking" ISN'T SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING!!!!!  Its simply "if you win, we punish you with people who have better gear than you do".  That's not fun, entertaining, or fair (to say nothing of competitive).

I shudder to think of how much I would play (and even pay) for a game like that!!!  You give me something like that with the art/looks of Mech Arena - I'll pay AAA box price just to purchase the game.  I'll be playing it for as long as I've played World of Warcraft (20 years, since the beginning, at least 30 min every day).  

You have amazing potential, but you keep killing it with the idiotic match making problems.