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Matchmaking is horrible, It spoils all the fun and the desire to play....

Matchmaking is horrible, It spoils all the fun and the desire to play....

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Oct 3, 2023, 16:0210/03/23
Oct 3, 2023, 16:17(edited)
08/25/23
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I know support in most online games these days are  useless, but I still wanted to see what excuse they come up with. And the irony is on one hand they claim this is deliberate and still they haven't been able to change the "system". 

And this "system" is sentient. It first prepares us to be "skilled", by distributing  blueprints and implants for weapons you do not have (and some you'll never have). Then it directs Plarium monetization policy to present OP weapons for sale, for "not skilled" players who will be your opponents.

Then it creates a team of underdogs, all of them "skilled" but with less Squad power, and pits them against not so skilled players with OP mechs and weapons. 

Oct 3, 2023, 18:3210/03/23
Oct 3, 2023, 18:32(edited)
09/26/22
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I know support in most online games these days are  useless, but I still wanted to see what excuse they come up with. And the irony is on one hand they claim this is deliberate and still they haven't been able to change the "system". 

And this "system" is sentient. It first prepares us to be "skilled", by distributing  blueprints and implants for weapons you do not have (and some you'll never have). Then it directs Plarium monetization policy to present OP weapons for sale, for "not skilled" players who will be your opponents.

Then it creates a team of underdogs, all of them "skilled" but with less Squad power, and pits them against not so skilled players with OP mechs and weapons. 

Matchmaking definitely isn't skill based. If it was, a player wouldn't be able to manipulate their hangar to get easier opponents, which has been a huge complaint for the last seven months. Those players wouldn't be able to do that if they were assigned a skill rating.

The matchmaking is designed to drive revenue, not make the battles balanced. They've admitted to basically rigging battles to achieve a 50% win rate amongst real players. Give easy battles to keep the player interested and then much harder battles to entice the player to buy upgrades or something new. Rinse and repeat every day.

Up until now, they've refused to fix anything in regards to the matchmaking. Even though they keep repeating that they're 'working on it' (which has been the excuse for more than a year now), they actually have no intention of making the matchmaking balanced...

Oct 3, 2023, 18:5110/03/23
12/08/22
124
CrystalDrew

Hello! Thank you for your feedback, we are actively working on the improvements for the Matchmaking system!

thanks for your feebeck, but will you stop and become a serious man?? This is what the community is asking for...

https://prnt.sc/fPnkoRnV1DgP

but you only thought about EM-RIFLE, which only the damned BOT HACKERS use it... and not about serious things, you're in disarray, you're scrambling. the game gets worse every hour. .. you lose players. and you just think about improving the graphics...???

do you see the criticisms of this topic alone?? does it seem to you that the game works with a ...THANK YOU WE WILL EVALUATE YOUR FEEBACKS...STOP PLEASE

Oct 3, 2023, 18:5210/03/23
12/08/22
124
wrecker

Matchmaking definitely isn't skill based. If it was, a player wouldn't be able to manipulate their hangar to get easier opponents, which has been a huge complaint for the last seven months. Those players wouldn't be able to do that if they were assigned a skill rating.

The matchmaking is designed to drive revenue, not make the battles balanced. They've admitted to basically rigging battles to achieve a 50% win rate amongst real players. Give easy battles to keep the player interested and then much harder battles to entice the player to buy upgrades or something new. Rinse and repeat every day.

Up until now, they've refused to fix anything in regards to the matchmaking. Even though they keep repeating that they're 'working on it' (which has been the excuse for more than a year now), they actually have no intention of making the matchmaking balanced...

Oct 4, 2023, 09:1710/04/23
04/16/23
157

Total list to have a guy in a battle with 1000 hanger power hanger then me.

Oct 4, 2023, 15:0810/04/23
09/26/23
3

Same with other game out there. Fun at start, then suddenly disappointing as these match making is for players who can spend a lot of money. Well of course they will prioritize their bigger clients rather than meager spenders and Free to play as they/we are just a bunch of sitting ducks target for fun right back our face. 

Well lets not classify or direct these to bigger spender, we can say the same to higher stars players as they will be match to weaklings/us also just to compensate there losses. 

So whats the issue? Match making right? 

Whats the response? Give us hope so just to stay in the game as they need livestock for their clients. Haha

Funny right cause we still keep on playing.

its just a matter of respect and proper action. But where's that now????? 


Oct 4, 2023, 22:1710/04/23
12/19/22
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I know support in most online games these days are  useless, but I still wanted to see what excuse they come up with. And the irony is on one hand they claim this is deliberate and still they haven't been able to change the "system". 

And this "system" is sentient. It first prepares us to be "skilled", by distributing  blueprints and implants for weapons you do not have (and some you'll never have). Then it directs Plarium monetization policy to present OP weapons for sale, for "not skilled" players who will be your opponents.

Then it creates a team of underdogs, all of them "skilled" but with less Squad power, and pits them against not so skilled players with OP mechs and weapons. 

You know, I think you're on to something here.

They don't care what your squad power is.  All the match making is done on some unknown "skill value" that is set up to keep you at 50-60% wins (at least, I think that's what the target number is).  In other words, if you have skill - you know how to use the maps, mechs, and weapons to their fullest - you will be punished because they can't have it.  

The single biggest problem with working the issue of different player skills in this way is that they obviously don't have a good limiter on it.  Its fine to put a skilled player against *slightly* tougher opponents to create competition, but if you do it to the point that the player is feeling steamrolled, well, that's bad business as the player will eventually leave.  I don't want to see that happen.

As players, we are all working under the impression (having been lead down this path by the game itself) that power (weapon power, mech power, squad power, etc.) means something.  It is a representation of how powerful your equipment is and if you can develop your skill as a player, you should be successful.   We are also lead to believe that power is the biggest factor in match making.  In all of this, I'm beginning to realize that we are wrong.  

If you really want proof, just look at how hard it is to get 4-6 wins in a row.  After 3-4, you'll run into a wall and get your butt handed to you.  There is no way that is random or good for the game.  People just rage quit.  If that happens enough, they don't come back.

I know there is a problem with SP droppers, but you can't punish all of us just to catch them.  I've proposed other solutions to that problem before and still believe that they could help, if not outright solve that particular problem.

I'm going to try this win streak again.  But I don't want my family getting mad at me because I'm enraged from facing opponents with mechs, weapons, pilots, and implants WAY above me and mine.  This is a fun, cute little game.  I really do love it and will give you all some time to figure it out.  However, I've been saying that for months now, and at the end of the day, no game is worth my health or relationships with my family.  I don't mind losing if I feel I have a chance and the other player is just better than me, but when I'm being taken out to the back alley and getting the stuff kicked out of me by someone who can simply one-shot me, then I'm just getting mad and saying out loud: "I hate this game."  Which all of my family replies with "so why don't you quit?"

I'll give a bit of time.  I don't expect a miracle (like a sudden and immediate fix - lol ), but I need to see or hear about some real progress.  And no, I'm sorry, but "we are working on it" can't be the answer.  I can only hear that so many times before I need to see it for myself.  

Thank you for your time and understanding.

Oct 6, 2023, 08:2210/06/23
Oct 6, 2023, 09:33(edited)
09/01/23
28
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Seriously ?u call that Matchmaking bad?lol.I have 2700 hanger power.This guy has 10000+

What are:

  • the rank of the highest item deployed in your hangar? It can be a mech or a weapon.
  • the highest power rating of a mech in your hangar (including its weapons and pilot) ? 


Oct 12, 2023, 06:2610/12/23
08/19/22
4

Very sad, but nothing has changed.

Still get opponents that are way above my hangar strength that you just don't stand a chance. To kill one enemy mech, I lose three of mine. 3 Stars against 5 or 6 is just impossible and that no matter how bad the opponent is, because then you add the overpowered bots, but I'll get to that now:

  • The enemy bots always know where you are even though you are not revealed, i.e. they pre-fire just before you turn the corner. The worst is when they have an EM Rifle, so you fall over immediately.
  • They always know which direction you are going, even if you zig zag, so EVERY missle rack hits.
  • Javelins and Helix are shot immediately, without any delay or aiming. In addition, they fly in a flight trajectory that is partially NOT possible for players.
  • But the worst is that shots and beams are displayed incorrectly, so that you can not specifically dodge. In my case, it shows that the shots and beams pass me by, but I still get damage.

Best example from the day before yesterday: I'm standing hidden around a corner with my Zephyr and stun the enemy Bot just before he appears and just fall over. In the DeathCam I see how the stun releases and his MissleRacks then start firing. So he knew I was standing there (which was theoretically impossible), pre-fired his MissleRacks (at an angle where he couldn't hit me) and they were additionally not displayed.

How is one supposed to win at all in a game in this state!? That has nothing to do with skill anymore.

P.S. I've read in the other threads that people keep their hangar strength low and they should normally have such opponents, meaning I'm now being punished for pushing my hangar!? I always wanted to get the most out of my mechs at the current level/rank with pilots and weapons.

Conclusion: So I should have rather saved my money and kept my hangar low.

Oct 13, 2023, 02:3210/13/23
Oct 24, 2023, 10:28(edited)
10/19/20
74
Baby Divine


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The Matchmaking is getting worse every day. I am finding that I always fight players with 130% to 250% of my SP. I understand that I have  6 star weapons....but they are 6 energy weapons. My best mech has 800 SP and I frequently fight players with maxed out surges/bastions.  The game is completly unfair. If this were randomly happening every so many matches that wouldn't be so bad but it is literally EVERY match I play.

The matchmaking and op bots is by far the longest and most vocal complaint to be submitted to Plarium for years!

 How difficult is it to develop a game system that places a mechs powering ranks?

  If your mech hanger is a power of 1000-2000 then that's your rank and if you play tournaments then the prize pool should be lower like 50 30 and 20 acoin for first second and third. Then the next rank could be 75 50 and 25.

 Something along the line to discourage sp droppers.

 Crystal Drew I get your frustration we all get pretty s***ty wit you and remember afterwards your pretty much the scapegoat Plarium drops between us and them so yeah you get a lot of heat.

 But I was raised on the premise of " Actions Speak Louder Than Words " and if you were one of us paying money for a game we actually dig a lot, then you would have a bigger understanding of our outrage and anger of having things taken away and NOTHING given in Return.

 The gearhub Is stupid as hell. Why would anyone use it when most stuff comes to the store way cheaper. Seems like it was made so everything is priced at an astronomical price sending people rushing to the game store to buy all those awesome deals ( sarcasm).

 I know Plarium about three years ago kept taking from players in Raid and that game is doing terrible now compared to before. It didnt take long to quit it. All across the spectrum it's the same for Plarium NO LOYALTY TO ITS PLAYERS, NO COMPROMISING, NOTHING BUT RIDICULOUSLY MORE POWERFUL AND NEEDLESS WEAPONS AND MECHS.


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Oct 14, 2023, 09:0310/14/23
05/21/23
29
CrystalDrew

Hello! I understand why you have such an opinion, and of course, you have a full right to think in that way, but still, currently, you are misinforming other members of the forum as you just can't know what exactly has been done inside our team.

In my turn, I don't aim to misinform you and vice versa, you can ensure yourself that I always bring insights to you from the devs. In this way, when I say "the work is in progress," it literally means that it's being in progress. I can't say more, but some of the changes will be visible soon.

Your feedback is heard and considered. Believe me, I do everything from my side to make you guys are heard by the team. Please, stop arguing with me under every single comment 'cause I can estimate it as a violation of the forum rules.

Define "soon", how long is that?

Oct 15, 2023, 02:4910/15/23
10/02/23
1
lilbuttacup

good luck getting the company to actually care

If everyone stopper paying they would lol but you got idiots with tons of money supporting the madnes 


Oct 17, 2023, 16:1610/17/23
05/10/17
29

MECH CIRCUS.....CHANGE NAME PLEASE .....  THE CLOWN

Oct 28, 2023, 01:3410/28/23
10/19/20
74
Peulut

We shouldn't get angry at CrystalDrew, he only passes on the feedback.

Also about the EM Rifle, it being nerfed is good in my opinion, it was before a one-shot sniper with aim-assist, which is broken, now you atleast need to aim the weapon using your skills (it can still one-shot), in my opinion, if they nerf something they should give the players that have the mech/weapon some Acoins.

Months? Brother it's been complained about for over 2 years.

 It is by far the biggest complaint and longest running.

Plarium has lost all trust with me the only reason ibplay is because it is a fun game but plarium cheats us outrageously.

You know, it's funny they took the lock from em rifle just before they changed the bot system. Now bots hide behind obstacles and shoot at you, their em rifles NEVER miss neither do the rail guns. I can't hardly use a sniper rifle because my shakes are so bad that I can't track very well, wasn't as hard with the lock on. But bots can still lock on. Notice I said bots not weapons. That way Plariun can deny that their em rifles don't have lock on. You don't need it when you program bots to never miss, or spawn immediately, or any number of things they can do we can't. 

I did like the hanger presets, but of course you have to pay acoin to use it. I don't know any other game that does.

Oct 28, 2023, 01:4810/28/23
10/19/20
74
WARLORD

Define "soon", how long is that?

You're right of course we can't know what's behind closed doors. However we do deal with the outcomes when we play and the screams of outrage are always ignored by developers.

I could understand if it were a few of us whining about dumb crap but it's literally about 3 or 4 problems that plarium refuses to right

1 implant removal: there is absolutely no reason to have removed the free implant removal. It was NOT required for better game play.

2 matchmaking: almost three years, not fixed.

3 EM rifles: true still powerful but for people with disabilities that aim assist leveled the playing field for some of us.

4 GREED: Plarium will nickel and dime the crap outa every dang thing they offer.

5 Acoin availability: they constantly take away means for us to win acoins. Yeah you can do challenges to win some but every one of them require the upgrade of rank or you have to spend money to win and that's stupid because the cost is never worth the prize. They even took away the 30 acoin you get for watching vids.

I hate that I don't love this game anymore, it was a great escape for me and plarium is ruining it. I'm almost ready to go back to War Robots because at least there you have a lot of ways to win their in-game currency.

Oct 28, 2023, 14:5210/28/23
06/01/15
19
Baby Divine

Thank you for sharing your similar experience. Everything you described is exactly what happens to me. At 90%+ win rate, the opponent BOTs scale up in performance and become way more aggressive than mine. It is not uncommon for me to have opponent BOTs (not real players) with 8-9 kills each and my team of 4 BOTs collectively gets 3-5 kills with minimal captures. Again, this doesn't happen randomly (sometimes my BOTs are strong, sometimes the opponents BOTs are strong). In recent weeks, my BOTs are almost always underperforming.

I've witnessed bots kill me while I'm behind their backs. How is it possible ??? ..I think the warps of any BOT weapon is programmed to kill you even if you're on the toilet doing your business in the bunker. they need to mend their ways...the game certainly won't improve, but it almost gives the impression that they have changed the team of developers, or perhaps they have flogged them like hell, to motivate them......

Oct 28, 2023, 14:5410/28/23
06/01/15
19
jedzilla74

Months? Brother it's been complained about for over 2 years.

 It is by far the biggest complaint and longest running.

Plarium has lost all trust with me the only reason ibplay is because it is a fun game but plarium cheats us outrageously.

You know, it's funny they took the lock from em rifle just before they changed the bot system. Now bots hide behind obstacles and shoot at you, their em rifles NEVER miss neither do the rail guns. I can't hardly use a sniper rifle because my shakes are so bad that I can't track very well, wasn't as hard with the lock on. But bots can still lock on. Notice I said bots not weapons. That way Plariun can deny that their em rifles don't have lock on. You don't need it when you program bots to never miss, or spawn immediately, or any number of things they can do we can't. 

I did like the hanger presets, but of course you have to pay acoin to use it. I don't know any other game that does.

maybe because other games have more intelligent and honest developers....

Nov 7, 2023, 16:0611/07/23
09/26/23
3
CrystalDrew

The rules are the rules that we all need to follow to keep a healthy and productive conversation. If I see more breaking the rules, I will need to take measures

can you comment on this.?

I have an inventory power of around 1.5k with squad power of 600.

I was matched against 3.3k power? 

Can you tell me where's the logic in that.? 

Now what kind of matchmaking your looking at? Power? Skill? Really?

What compensation you'll give us for this? 


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Nov 7, 2023, 16:1111/07/23
09/26/23
3
CrystalDrew

Hello! Thank you for your feedback, we are actively working on the improvements for the Matchmaking system!

Can you comment on this.?

an you comment on this.?an you comment on this.?

I have an inventory power of around 1.5k with squad power of 600.

I was matched against with squad power of 3.3k..? 

Can you tell me where's the logic in that.? 

Now what kind of matchmaking your looking at? Power? Skill? Really?

What compensation you'll give us for this since your earning profit from us?