Drogar61 said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

scarlet said:

Snowgoon said:

Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.

We did not change that. If you're experiencing any issues with Flag tabs, please inform our Support Team and they will test it: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

You changed that. Obviously you don't know for that change. I will not be surprised if developers don't know too.

Lord Drogar61, please report this issue to our Support team so we can check this. Thank you. 

I am a lowly neophyte so should never be allowed to see anything, but have full access to the new tab

Somebody has messed up

http://prntscr.com/ez84y6

I am a lowly neophyte so should never be allowed to see anything, but have full access to the new tab

Somebody has messed up

http://prntscr.com/ez84y6

Erik Bloodaxe said:

I am a lowly neophyte so should never be allowed to see anything, but have full access to the new tab

Somebody has messed up

http://prntscr.com/ez84y6

Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

brunsonthomas said:

Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

The 'rewards' from the flag tournament are temporary and should not dictate which units to build.
anyway, low level players don't have a lot of choice .... either archers or pikes?
Your argument is based on false logic, and does not explain why League Marshals in other leagues can see nothing

He seems to be adding to the debate that some players (even genuine neophytes) can see which buffs and debuffs have been applied in all other leagues, even tho high level officers in most leagues can see nothing.
He has FULL ACCESS to the new tab and can see every buff/debuff on EVERY league.

There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested

Seems to me that it depends if any buffs/debuffs are active on our own leagues - if not then we see nothing on any league

Snowgoon said:

brunsonthomas said:

Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

The 'rewards' from the flag tournament are temporary and should not dictate which units to build.
anyway, low level players don't have a lot of choice .... either archers or pikes?
Your argument is based on false logic, and does not explain why League Marshals in other leagues can see nothing

He seems to be adding to the debate that some players (even genuine neophytes) can see which buffs and debuffs have been applied in all other leagues, even tho high level officers in most leagues can see nothing.
He has FULL ACCESS to the new tab and can see every buff/debuff on EVERY league.

There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested

Seems to me that it depends if any buffs/debuffs are active on our own leagues - if not then we see nothing on any league

If you wish to see changes to the Flag Tournament please send your ideas to Suggestions. There is a better chance they will be noticed there. https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/suggestions/35979_your-suggestions---2-2/?post=271792

Snowgoon said:

brunsonthomas said:

Snowgoon said:

There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested

If you wish to see changes to the Flag Tournament please send your ideas to Suggestions. There is a better chance they will be noticed there. 

We all made dozens of suggestions when they added this 'event' and all were ignored

Why would we wish to keep banging our heads against this particular brick wall?

Hopefully with enough feedback changes can be made. Suggestions are one excellent way to get your opinion to the appropriate people to get action taken.

Sir_bit_yakin said:

Erik Bloodaxe said:

 He would get better rewards attacking battlegrounds.

http://prnt.sc/exgvgy

They lose 100% with no chance of accomplishing anything and no chance of any tournament rewards, so why do they do it? I have seen many similar attacks during Beacon Massacres

not sure who the THEY are you are referring to, but I'll answer your question

A) I ENJOY the tournament,  which IS the reason we play games in the first place

B) we lose very little as we  learned not to bother trying to defend,  as snatch flags from lighty defended fortress's with minimal losses

C) we have placed in the top 3 in every one of these events so we DO get rewards, we have placed 1st twice

Ca) we also earn PVP points in that tourney which runs parallel with it,  I placed 3rd in my tier and earned over 2K gems in the last one

with that in mind, it still doesn't change the fact that I'd very much like to see some balancers put in place for the smaller/weaker leagues

it's a sad testament to a tourney when  the top 10 of 100 in a tier are supposed to get rewards but by the end there are maybe 3 - 5 leagues with ANY points at all

as for their popularity, I have noticed it seems almost EVERYONE is playing in them, the hamlets are 99% deserted, the bot lines are unraided, which means most people are doing SOMETHING they aren't USUALLY doing

no one is asking you or your league to participate, but don't look down your nose at those of us that ENJOY the competition of this tourney

Not true
All leagues are FORCED to participate - only those leagues with level 5 or 8 forts can afford the luxury of leaving it deserted

You obviously did not bother to examine the screenshot that showed fortress attacks using defensive units and spies and losing 100% with no chance of victory.

Suicide raids like this can accomplish nothing even when pvp tournaments are running - they cannot hope to justify their losses

Also, adding pvp events at the same time is a recent development which proves how unwanted these flag tournaments really are - why bother adding pvp if flag tournaments were popular?
The flag tournament and beacon massacre were designed for hopelessly addicted coiners, and their 'rewards' will never cover their losses

p.s. If your league does not bother to defend then you should lose all flags during the final 5 minutes, and snatching a few flags from weaker leagues would give zero pvp points, so your boasts make no sense

Not true
All leagues are FORCED to participate - only those leagues with level 5 or 8 forts can afford the luxury of leaving it deserted

Snowgoon said:

Not true
All leagues are FORCED to participate - only those leagues with level 5 or 8 forts can afford the luxury of leaving it deserted

You obviously did not bother to examine the screenshot that showed fortress attacks using defensive units and spies and losing 100% with no chance of victory.

Suicide raids like this can accomplish nothing even when pvp tournaments are running - they cannot hope to justify their losses

Also, adding pvp events at the same time is a recent development which proves how unwanted these flag tournaments really are - why bother adding pvp if flag tournaments were popular?
The flag tournament and beacon massacre were designed for hopelessly addicted coiners, and their 'rewards' will never cover their losses

p.s. If your league does not bother to defend then you should lose all flags during the final 5 minutes, and snatching a few flags from weaker leagues would give zero pvp points, so your boasts make no sense

since 90% of the fortress's out there are lvl 5 or 8 that only leaves a few who get downgraded during this event, sorry to those few but they were going to get hit anyhow so whether during this tournament or two days later that was going to happen anyhow

no I didn't look at the screenshot, since it doesn't apply to me or my league, we don't do suicide raids

maybe I haven't been around long enough but so far every single capture the flag tourney I have played in had a PVP tourney running along side it...

as for your PS.   not true, you cannot have ALL our flags taken in the last 5 min of the game or even the last hour of the game as you get a min  1 hr attack protection after a successful attack

so long as you have 2 flags within an hr of the end of the event you WILL have at least one flag at the end

and in tier 3 - 5 one flag will put you in the top ten

Sir_bit_yakin said:

as for your PS.   not true, you cannot have ALL our flags taken in the last 5 min of the game or even the last hour of the game as you get a min  1 hr attack protection after a successful attack

so long as you have 2 flags within an hr of the end of the event you WILL have at least one flag at the end

and in tier 3 - 5 one flag will put you in the top ten

So why does this non-event last 4 days?

This is from Farwols server and shows 20 pages of leagues with no flags, 4 leages with 1-11 flags and ONE league with EVERY other flag

Seems to me there are only 5 or 6 players who give a damn about this pile of garbage, and tier 3 - 5 league stand no chance of capturing any flags

http://prntscr.com/fq19eg

Sir_bit_yakin said:

as for your PS.   not true, you cannot have ALL our flags taken in the last 5 min of the game or even the last hour of the game as you get a min  1 hr attack protection after a successful attack

so long as you have 2 flags within an hr of the end of the event you WILL have at least one flag at the end

and in tier 3 - 5 one flag will put you in the top ten

So why does this non-event last 4 days?

This is from Farwols server and shows 20 pages of leagues with no flags, 4 leages with 1-11 flags and ONE league with EVERY other flag

Seems to me there are only 5 or 6 players who give a damn about this pile of garbage, and tier 3 - 5 league stand no chance of capturing any flags

http://prntscr.com/fq19eg

Limad said:

It might make more sense at this point to make a few changes to the format. Say, don't announce when it's going to start and then just have an in-game popup that says "Capture the Flag has started. The contest will run for the next 60 mins". The start times could be randomized each time to give players in different times zones a chance to be online at the right time. Then it would become a proper guerrilla-style feature where people are scrambling to get organised rather than the current thing which is over almost before it begins. And then it lingers on pointlessly for over 3 days. 

I have to point out, this is my experience on server 3, but I imagine the same thing plays out everywhere. At this point it's just an occasional set of weekly rewards for the same leagues each time. And I say this as a member of one of those leagues. 

You cannot imagine the mayhem that would cause. Most leagues that are able to protect their Fortress and Flag often spend hours organizing their defense and strategy. Which hour would the most players be on line or the least amount of players? This would cause havoc and your league may not be one that benefits. I do not enjoy the Flag tournament or the Beacon Massacres. Yes, I play both server 1 and server 2. I have not played server 3 as there are enough hours in a day to play more games. 

Let's agree to disagree. My point is that it would be more fun it if wasn't flagged (pun) days in advance. Chaos is good. 

at the beginning of this thread the rules were post   this is one of them I found to be NOT TRUE

"NOTE: There are no restrictions on attacking a League Fortress that has your League’s Flag. "

screenshot show that statement to be WRONG

https://prntscr.com/hs6enr

Sir_bit_yakin said:

at the beginning of this thread the rules were post   this is one of them I found to be NOT TRUE

"NOTE: There are no restrictions on attacking a League Fortress that has your League’s Flag. "

screenshot show that statement to be WRONG

https://prntscr.com/hs6enr

Hello!

Please report this issue to our Support team: https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/bug-reports/

Let's agree to disagree. My point is that it would be more fun it if wasn't flagged (pun) days in advance. Chaos is good. 

cannedam said:

Limad said:

Let's agree to disagree. My point is that it would be more fun it if wasn't flagged (pun) days in advance. Chaos is good. 

Strongly agree with you here.  Do away with the countdown and let it drop without warning.  

Hello :)

agree there is no need for advance notice with the exception of leagues who have a milestone fortress who would like to retain their flag - the advance notice would give them the opportunity to defend to retain the flag and also hit for more flags in order to compete for the rankings

Erik Bloodaxe said:

Your attitude to these events seems self-destructive, but it also destroys your league mates too.

Ignore this stupid event and keep your fortress at level 8 with ZERO defense

Do not attack other forts, you will never be rewarded for your losses. It amazes me when idiots make attacks like this against strongly defended fortresses. He would get better rewards attacking battlegrounds.

http://prnt.sc/exgvgy

They lose 100% with no chance of accomplishing anything and no chance of any tournament rewards, so why do they do it? I have seen many similar attacks during Beacon Massacres

Lemmings?

Plarium need to give guaranteed rewards for the top ten in each tier, but it is their intention to destroy rewards for every tier in every tournament type

If these tournaments were half as popular as plarium pretends then they  would have been rolled out across all plarium games - they are only targeted at the big spenders like stormfall
Aimed at noobs with big credit cards because they do not require any skill

not sure who the THEY are you are referring to, but I'll answer your question

A) I ENJOY the tournament,  which IS the reason we play games in the first place

B) we lose very little as we  learned not to bother trying to defend,  as snatch flags from lighty defended fortress's with minimal losses

C) we have placed in the top 3 in every one of these events so we DO get rewards, we have placed 1st twice

Ca) we also earn PVP points in that tourney which runs parallel with it,  I placed 3rd in my tier and earned over 2K gems in the last one

with that in mind, it still doesn't change the fact that I'd very much like to see some balancers put in place for the smaller/weaker leagues

it's a sad testament to a tourney when  the top 10 of 100 in a tier are supposed to get rewards but by the end there are maybe 3 - 5 leagues with ANY points at all

as for their popularity, I have noticed it seems almost EVERYONE is playing in them, the hamlets are 99% deserted, the bot lines are unraided, which means most people are doing SOMETHING they aren't USUALLY doing

no one is asking you or your league to participate, but don't look down your nose at those of us that ENJOY the competition of this tourney