fURY said:

DJ Moody said:

fURY said:

few years ago league KoK ! was at a very top position.KoK was always at a top position.

As of right now, in a top position (very marginally behind your league as it happens).

When you can't get the really easy stuff right, what makes you think people will see you as having any credibility when we discuss the more complex stuff, like game balance and game history?

by people if u mean u,i dnt need to  prove my credibility to u

the question up there which my reply was to and ur own statement down here reveals everything

I said 5 years for a reason.

I know full well we are the exception to the rule of top leagues being massive coiners. But we had the advantage of being in the game from the very start - 7 years.

End of year 2 is when Plarium went berserk monitising the game and bought trooops shot way past earned troops. After that almost impossible to get started w/o being competitive in spending.

Anything else you want to get wrong or shall we continue?

DJ Moody said:

fURY said:

few years ago league KoK ! was at a very top position.KoK was always at a top position.

As of right now, in a top position (very marginally behind your league as it happens).

When you can't get the really easy stuff right, what makes you think people will see you as having any credibility when we discuss the more complex stuff, like game balance and game history?

by if u mean u, i dnt need to prove my credibility yo u

fURY said:

few years ago league KoK ! was at a very top position.KoK was always at a top position.

As of right now, in a top position (very marginally behind your league as it happens).

When you can't get the really easy stuff right, what makes you think people will see you as having any credibility when we discuss the more complex stuff, like game balance and game history?

DJ Moody said:

@Wes

I think what you and I said can be correct at the same time.

There are going to be people and leagues that have spent big bucks and failed. So the leagues at the top are going to be better run and organised than the ones that failed.

BUT they ALL have massive money spent on them also. Name the league of hobby only spenders that managed to rise to the top of the rankings in the last 5 years? There isn't a single one right.

You can't realistically get to the top w/o support of mega coining because of the huge advantages spending big brings. But you won't guarantee getting to the top just by spending money.

Btw I didn't say that leagues were full of coiners. They just need the support of a few mega coiners. People willing to buy back losses = offence capability ; people willing to speed boost brawl points = top brawl performance = easier requirement = guaranteed activity; def hammers = easy and safe beacon moves etc etc.

few years ago league KoK ! was at a very top position.KoK was always at a top position 

when KoK had 4 sister leagues and KOC1 and 2 were high in ranking too ! 

aside from money,or the rewards player get for being in a big league.there is also knowledge.we always factor in these 2 things .sometimes game knowledge is completely ignored too

but there is one more thing ,there is one more thing ! players relations broken down,how a leadership talks with members,or ranked or how they are treated ! we had top leagues who members who had the knowledge,good army and etc. leave a league ! and thats what happened with many leagues too 

a league might have the knowledge ! where do these coiners which in the end always this discussion ends in,comes from ? theyr all players ! then they are treated badly and move to another league !

What are the general political, diplomatic, and statistical requirements to hold a corner beacon on server 1? 

Does it require a league marshal to kiss a ring of some nefarious warlord? 

But seriously, What does one need to do to get one. 

I have seen leagues who have never won league tournaments. Whose performance on the Champion League tower is on average below level 55. WHo have less than 130 members in league members. Whose significant members of the league is inexperienced to such a point that they leave dozens of offense on Beacons ripe for the killing. Leagues that don't even perform on the brawl, and have never achieved 10 million points or ever appear on top ten of the Legendary brawl. 

Yet they have corner beacons. It could be that they spend significant money. 

DJ Moody said:

But it wouldn't be a wrong to say that the common denominator in nearly all the top leagues is the amount of money spent on them. Dominus / Fellowship / KT / Rebels...  All had lvl 20 fort arts/bonuses shortly after they came out (and those tomes cost a fortune). No one else finished the bonues for best part of 2 years (how long it took to F2P the bonuses). 

So that 3 of the 4 corners are held by said leagues shouldn't come as a surprise tbh.

And your other big leagues that have come along since fort update (RP / The Horde) have massive amount of money spent in them also. One of them holds the 4th corner and the other is no1 in map space.

Is it really a surprise that money talks in this game given the lack of balance Plarium have allowed?

I will go as far as to disagree with this statement wholeheartedly and with all due respect The most common Denominator in all the top leagues is High daily activity By players within the league I see a 98% average and that's accounting for not seeing it go under 95%  proper Planning and a constant eye on all the changing factors.That must be monitored and addressed by a  leadership team that can rally it's players to performing consistently every week and even more diligently since the introduction of the Royal Brawl every other week. Not say that the injection of a few dollars isn't helpful at the start. but at the end of the day. It's the daily player no matter what the rank that come in loyally be they well off  or paupers with time on their hands instead of money in their pockets.