What will be with troops that they already in the BG. I prepared my award for a month and I have a half of my army inside BG. Are they lost forever?

What does mean "new orders shall be delivered to your warriors and 30% of them automatically sent back to your Castle safely"? They will not be included in battle? ???

Bologna, really wake up - this change could be very ugly for players, and I cant see any benefit of this, for now. I'll be happy if I'm wrong.

I was learning about misterious BG algorithm for 9 months, and what I learned I could throw in the river. Many things in this game are so misterious and it is very useful to be sheep in this game.

solarlaps,

I'm on 100. BG level - imagine my troop amount in BG 

I have to wait befor efinal feelings about this change but this is not a way how changes can be implemented.

And MAYBE award becomes award. Award of less strength after BG award IS NOT AWARD but a scam.

Drogar61 said:

What will be with troops that they already in the BG. I prepared my award for a month and I have a half of my army inside BG. Are they lost forever?

 

No Lord, all your results were not reset. You can continue hitting Battlegrounds and get the rewards you’ve been building up to.

"What does mean "new orders shall be delivered to your warriors and 30% of them automatically sent back to your Castle safely"? They will not be included in battle? ???"

you send for example 100 pals to a bg and return 30 so u must count 75 on your bank

"Why do I get small rewards, despite numerous losses?"

From now on, you get small rewards for every win. Eagle's Nest feels that you deserve to get a prize for every victory. You worked hard to win a battle for the Battleground you should be rewarded for taking this challenge.
This doesn't mean that you won't also get those bigger rewards you used to get prior to the update. Those still happen – there’s just greater consistency now.

"How do these frequent small rewards affect the overall reward system?"

You'll need to hit more Battlegrounds in order to claim the big rewards you used to get. On the other hand, you will always receive bonus units for a win.

please post all your doubs i will try to answer as soon as posible

regards

chrischar said:

DROGAR LOOKS LIKE UR IN FOR A BAD RUN I JUST SENT 800 WARLOCKS TO A LEVEL 41 BATTLEGROUND LOST 539 AND ONLY GOT 40 WYVERNS. THIS GAME IS LITERALLY SCREWD NOW   

please lord chrischar read my previous asnwer and please avoid to write in caps 

ce jeu devient grave pourquoi faire temps de changement quand le jeu fonctionner tres bien ds ces debut 

English please.  Or go to the french forum. 

Ultron said:

 

This is post update. You will still get big rewards but how and when we have to find out. Its a new system. Just give it some time to analyse and i am sure we will find a way.

Judging by that report I'd say you haven't found it yet.  nice payout tho. 

Drogar61 said:

What does mean fresh bank?

Can you tell us what is sent into bank before this payout? Obviously you couldnt get this award for 155 Necros.

Also, you mentioned in other post Second highest task. Was this second highest? Or some of tasks?

Hi Lord Drogard

im going to answer you. the bank was empty. next step is for a level 62 bank arround 29M to fill it. so in serveral bgs donwgraded to yellow and didnt finish them. once the 29M was spent the pic shows the last hit to get the desired payout on that level 62.

second task may mean that the highest bg and rune bg is a level 63, so this is one 62, the second high

hope this can solve your questions.

Regards.

Drogar61 said:

Juglar del Viento said:

Hi Lord Drogard

im going to answer you. the bank was empty. next step is for a level 62 bank arround 29M to fill it. so in serveral bgs donwgraded to yellow and didnt finish them. once the 29M was spent the pic shows the last hit to get the desired payout on that level 62.

second task may mean that the highest bg and rune bg is a level 63, so this is one 62, the second high

hope this can solve your questions.

Regards.

Ty, for your answer, but if can tell us answer on two/three more (for many players could be very important) questions:

How did you reset bank? With getting big payout or with solving Rune BG on lvl 62 or ...?

You spent 29M. In resources? Calculated with or without food?

And if you can reveal two more missunderstandings:

Does Eldrich unit worth same as normal unit of same type?

Are dead troops and payout(s) from BG QUESTS involved in bank calculation or not?

Regards

All resources (including food) count the same for bg loading.  So any values are assumed to include food, iron, and gold. 

eldrich units are worth the same as regular units, but have higher power, so you're better off saving them for pvp. 

the units lost fighting the bgs that give eldrich troops are not counted towards the bank. 

Perhaps I am being exceptionally stupid, but I still don't grasp why this measure has any impact on alts.

It sucks .....

Actually its even worse then that, now its harder to prepare a defense reward or an offence reward, as tracking rewards is harder and you get some rewards on BGs you don't want a reward on. The only positive thing is that it promotes that any BGs regardless of lvl will pay back over time, which many people do not believe but is actually true.

I think the rewards are going to be very similar  with a few small crappy rewards before you build up enough for a big one. They just made it a pain to yellow line BGs, what previously took two waves and 1 calculation, requires 4 waves and 3 calculations to get the most out of under sending of troops. Offence BGs are going to be even more guesswork, having 30% of your noble troops being cowards now =P

This does not make payouts more consistent at all.  If you need X-amount of units to fill up a bank and get a big reward, you still need the same X-amount regardless of whether or not you now get a percentage back with each bg.  This just means that a smaller percentage of your forces can be loaded up per bg, so you have to work harder.

It also hurts the lower-level bg players.  A low-level bg now is less likely to return high-level forces.

so small pay outs is fine,but what i am wandering is,

does the difference between the small payout and what you lost go towards a larger payout

in the future ?

Juglar del Viento said:

Lords 

please check this thread on tactics and strategy and read it please

click http://forum.plarium.com/en/stormfall-age-of-war/tactics-and-strategy/topics/faq-on-battleground-rewards/1/#36224/

regards

No rights!

Klonk_Koc, this is not the case unfortunately, I had half of my Battlegrounds yellowed before the update so I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is the system:

Every Troop you send off to die gets split, some gets saved for you as a reward from when you clear the bgs and the rest goes into the pot, lets say 30% into clearing and 70% into pot. ie. you will have to fill up to 130% in this case starting from a fresh bank. As I had so many yellowed I had to invest about 200%+ before I came to a reward and hence why I can make this conclusion. Considering you get some reward maybe added to the one with the pot reward as you get the clearing troops added is still uncertain and will need to be tried over more BGs and compared to previous rewards, which I have not done yet.

Therefore the system is exactly the same as before, just slight rewards in-between progressively. The problem is some other changes they have not noted with the update or refuse to answer which I have stated previously, why did they change the algorithm for sending less then it takes to clear a BGs or for sending more then required to clear it, please answer this.

Lords 

please check this thread on tactics and strategy and read it please

click http://forum.plarium.com/en/stormfall-age-of-war/tactics-and-strategy/topics/faq-on-battleground-rewards/1/#36224/

regards

Drogar61 said:

Do 30 pals be included in battles before they will send back?

In other words, all the same as before, just every win a prize and it is not automatically calculated in BG. Am I right?

you have to include in your bank your looses not what is coming back

in other words, you have to recalculate your bank in every bg, does mean your looses minus your winnings so you will take more time to get your bank full.

Juglar del Viento said:

"What does mean "new orders shall be delivered to your warriors and 30% of them automatically sent back to your Castle safely"? They will not be included in battle? ???"

you send for example 100 pals to a bg and return 30 so u must count 75 on your bank

"How do these frequent small rewards affect the overall reward system?"

You'll need to hit more Battlegrounds in order to claim the big rewards you used to get. On the other hand, you will always receive bonus units for a win.

Do 30 pals be included in battles before they will send back?

In other words, all the same as before, just every win a prize and it is not automatically calculated in BG. Am I right?

BiohazarD said:

Drogar61 said:

How did you reset bank? With getting big payout or with solving Rune BG on lvl 62 or ...?

Maybe you omit answer, maybe you cant tell us.

I will try to give my opinion. If you want/can correct me.

As I know you cant clean bank, because you will never get all of your lost troops (or better term, your resourcses that looks as units but they arent units).

Check starting report for this replies. 29M + 1.6M is greater than 27.5M=2374*10610+476*5000.

So, there is no "empty" anything, spec. bank, after this payout, except in the case when 3M is provision of bank for this changing.

Real question is:

when bank takes provision? After every filling or just for payouts?

How much?

I doubt if we will ever get this question the correct answer, but the question is here.

Ty for your previous answers.