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21 май 2017, 13:2421.05.17
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RandomDrop said:


Anne, this game is back burner for Plarium.. They only care about Clash of Clans right now and Im sure this game is for sale, Obviously Kabam siad "hell no" but they will keep trying to increase the false image of a money maker until someone bites or they just let it go.

Plarium care about Stormfall just like any game. We all get the same ammount of love from Plarium, its the players that make the game loveable or not loveable. Player, not Plarium will kill the game, when they decide to kill the game. 

Plarium job is to just make sure that the platform runs smooth. They don't decide what we do in the game. 
24 май 2017, 18:0824.05.17
04.10.13
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Oracle said:

bhagya_anne said:


seriously how are any league suppose to protect themselves against the Emperors?

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 http://prntscr.com/fa8ect

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They are all coiners with multiple alts

Come on Plarium sponsor a league to at least cause them some damage, they HAVE  the money to spend re-building for you it is a win/win situation.  I can see why more and more players are leaving the game

Otherwise look into the Emperors, they have to be broken up so other leagues stand a chance
 

We can play forever, and they will be bigger and bigger hammers, in time they will even be a centillion hammer.

I certainly the size of hammers doesn't just keep growing.  The knowledge that someone can wipe out their entire leagues defense and take almost no losses doing it is demoralizing to smaller players. 
23 май 2017, 13:3523.05.17
01.03.16
5810
djmoody said:

Oracle said:


RandomDrop said:


Anne, this game is back burner for Plarium.. They only care about Clash of Clans right now and Im sure this game is for sale, Obviously Kabam siad "hell no" but they will keep trying to increase the false image of a money maker until someone bites or they just let it go.

Plarium care about Stormfall just like any game. We all get the same ammount of love from Plarium, its the players that make the game loveable or not loveable. Player, not Plarium will kill the game, when they decide to kill the game. 

Plarium job is to just make sure that the platform runs smooth. They don't decide what we do in the game. 

That is incredibly naive given the focus on mobile gaming (not just by Plarium).

All the cash and investment will go to mobile games. Not that we will notice much difference as Plarium hardly ever releases any new features or content, outside of Pay to Win tweaks, for Stormfall, TD, etc anyway. They have been in cash cow mode for these games from day one.

It's essential for companies to move in different directions. Times are changing and so do we. Despite the fact that we've released several mobile games, we keep working on our games in social networks and plarium.com. Moreover, players of all our platforms can enjoy new updates very often as we try to keep all our games fun and engaging. 
11 май 2017, 14:3411.05.17
11 май 2017, 14:50(edited)
04.11.15
349

Eugenia Misura said:


Greetings! Thank you for sharing your vision with me. I'll ask our devs about adding such an option. 

Could I just point out that devs were quick enough to add unwanted buttons for league fortress privileges and for league help privileges (both of which could be removed and only allowed for marshal and captains) but devs have refused to add a button for beacon/fortress visibility even tho all leagues have been demanding this for a very long time

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Even so, I still think a new button is unnecessary and will not stop spying


Visibility for forts and beacons should be added to marshal's ability to select visibily of league unit stats by rank. It is the same thing (but different).
If marshal can trust members to see league stats then it follows that he can also trust them to see fort/beacon defense QED

It could'nt be simpler


p.s. Marshals also need the power to remove all defense from forts and selected beacons, and should be given true values of total defense stats for each one

9 май 2017, 08:0609.05.17
15 май 2017, 20:29(edited)
231769

although I agree with these, I am going to debate against it. 


A league is defined as 

''a collection of people, countries, or groups that combine for mutual protection or cooperation.''  Note the word mutual. which is defined as ,a feeling or action, experienced or done by each of two or more parties towards the other or others. A league therefore is a type of mutual relationship, a kind of relationship in which both parties benefit, and non are harmed. Mutualism centers on the fact that there must be no form of competition between the parties involved. The experience gained by one party must positively reflect on the other parties in the same relationship.

The fact that you want some parties not to see the stats, might suggest that you don't trust the other party. Then if you don't trust him, why are you in a mutual relationship with him. Mutuality can't exist without trust, and for the to be trust the have to be complete disclosure of all type of information between the parties involved. 

With the question of espionage, of course one might argue that the lack of such a button facilitate espionage. But Espionage is a part of MMORPG, and as we know, and have drawn from a recent debate on alts and DID( Dissociative Identity Disorder), was that people will play roles that are not immediately available to them in real life, as a form of enhanced ''imaginative reality''. So is it Plarium job to discourage such acts of enhanced imaginative reality to the form that they would create a button for that very purpose. These is a very important question, Should plarium discourage other form a personality in their game, which is heavily based on creation of alternative personality? Simply Should Plarium discourage people from playing as spies ?

The other argument which is linked to the last, is that espionage are normally carried out by alts, These is sometimes true, but not always. The are many leagues, Forums, and guild, in-game and out of the game that are centered on providing espionage, and relative intel into other groups. many such guild exist in old games like WC, WoW, Eve, and LoL, and other games, and I was a proud member of one, and is still( I am near the very top in leadership roles), and I can tell you those guilds,  and league don't use alts. 

MMORPG games are diverse, and espionage is part of the game, creating a buttun to stop such activity, will only results in people involved in espionage to evolve. And anyways, Marshals and captains have an ability to deal with these kind of activity, Kick the person out. 

12 май 2017, 13:5212.05.17
12 май 2017, 14:07(edited)
13.12.14
1282

BiohazarD said:


Calculating the true value for all defense units in a beacon/fortress would be very computationally expensive (you have to account for the different bonuses of up to 160 players on multiple sites as the marshal scrolls through their list of beacons).

I don't agree

The game calculates the true defensive values of any beacon in an instant, every time we attack with one pike, and should easily do so when the Marshal visits any beacon or fortress. These values do not need to be available by default, nor refresh
These values are available on League Stats anyway, so the work has already been done and the total is shown for each member, but not for each beacon (and fort defense has been ignored)

League Marshals need this information without resorting to complicated spreadsheets which need updating every day

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