Eugenia Misura said:

If we're talking specifically about bots, it has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.

Why do you write such utter nonsense.

Virtually all MMO's are about grinding repetitive tasks. 

If you play properly they become about your level of dedication and or your efficiency in performing that grind (although this particular game is so unbalanced and broken it's purely about how much money you are willing to spend).

Someone who cheats with a bot can perform all the grinding tasks, to perfection. That is a massive frakin unfair advantage. Not to mention that this can be replicated on multiple accounts for an ultimately ENOURMOUS advantage.

What is the point of posting garbage like this. You just insult our intelligence and alienate us even more.

Word to the stupid - just say you acknowledge what a major problem it is and are working on it. Even if you aren't working on it or are putting such a feeble amount of resource towards it, no sensible solution will come for years. You are better off lying that you are providing a solution than pretending to us there isn't a problem.

CM responses just come across as flamebait/trolling these days. 

Stormfall said:

If anyone want to see the scale of the problem with bots/total control thing check out verylargeleage (<yes that's how it is spelled) league on s1.

technically, those are alts, but possibly they bot as well.

johanrayne said:

Stormfall said:

If anyone want to see the scale of the problem with bots/total control thing check out verylargeleage (<yes that's how it is spelled) league on s1.

technically, those are alts, but possibly they bot as well.

yep, wish that is how i could be a league of one.  40 of me.

Just 40 Johanrayne? Why not 150? If you work it right you should be able to make # 1 league without having to put any money down or do the grind. Just click, click, click and wait.

Gadheras said:

Eugenia Misura said:

djmoody said:

Eugenia Misura said:

If we're talking specifically about bots, it has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.

Why do you write such utter nonsense.

Virtually all MMO's are about grinding repetitive tasks. 

If you play properly they become about your level of dedication and or your efficiency in performing that grind (although this particular game is so unbalanced and broken it's purely about how much money you are willing to spend).

Someone who cheats with a bot can perform all the grinding tasks, to perfection. That is a massive frakin unfair advantage. Not to mention that this can be replicated on multiple accounts for an ultimately ENOURMOUS advantage.

What is the point of posting garbage like this. You just insult our intelligence and alienate us even more.

Word to the stupid - just say you acknowledge what a major problem it is and are working on it. Even if you aren't working on it or are putting such a feeble amount of resource towards it, no sensible solution will come for years. You are better off lying that you are providing a solution than pretending to us there isn't a problem.

CM responses just come across as flamebait/trolling these days. 

I'm stating a fact. Despite we're doing our best to prevent/block the opportunity of using bots in our games, there's a limited amount of action you can do in the game if you using such programs so they don't give any significant advantages.

Lord djmoody, I'm asking you to be polite and treat with respect both players and our team when commenting the topics.

Just the ability to have units that come out of production get moved to catacombs, because you use scripts (bot software) to do it, create a massive unfair adventage. Or other mundane tasks that require a player to sit in front of the actual screen do stuff. Like activate dragon every 3 hours and so on. It might sounds not much, but in the long run, have a script play the game for you when you not around yourself, create a big adventage. Maybe if you included some code that would make the screen re-adjust slighty every few minutes so clicks would be off. you could counter a lot of this.

Btw, I don't see Dj as being rude to anyone, its more about frustration. Also considering the state of things, I would be more worried about other things than what could be considered bad language if any. The most sensible thing to do, would be to hunker down, adopt a thick skin and try fix   greater issues, and you would see the community turn around as well. As Dj mentioned in another post, when you have rather "key" content creator players leave the game it create huge ripples. Once a domino effect started, its very hard to stop it you  know.  

Sophisticated bots (like the kind being used to control thousands of accounts) don't actually click on anything, or even load the game graphics.  They just submit packets to the server with certain commands in them (ie upgrade building x, or send troops to target y).  This is why things like graphics changes have little to no affect on the bots. 

Eugenia Misura said:

And yes, 'mass-ban' is one of the ways of struggle with such accounts in the game. It such cases we ban multiple accounts at once.

You claim to have banned more than one million bot accounts

https://support.plarium.com/enstormfall/Knowledgebase/Article/View/1205/9/bot-accounts--and-alternative-accounts

So why is it so difficult for you to identify the relocated bots on Dark Plains? Many are still active. Last Login:Today and giving 400 res per hour when besieged.
Using castle relocate has completely fooled your devs - they are no longer in pretty lines for you to ban.

You have de-activated the 295 bot line on Untamed (again) but they will be re-activated within a few days, and you seem helpless to prevent this. - http://prntscr.com/dkcfak

Bots from this line sent 4 million defense to my friend's castle and hacked his account when he refused to pay
Try telling us that 4mill castle reinforcements is not significant

"The lifetime of bot accounts is not high as they rarely reach lvl 30-40 in the game. "
Wrong again - they are level 67 and climbing

Eugenia Misura said:

djmoody said:

Eugenia Misura said:

If we're talking specifically about bots, it has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.

Why do you write such utter nonsense.

Virtually all MMO's are about grinding repetitive tasks. 

If you play properly they become about your level of dedication and or your efficiency in performing that grind (although this particular game is so unbalanced and broken it's purely about how much money you are willing to spend).

Someone who cheats with a bot can perform all the grinding tasks, to perfection. That is a massive frakin unfair advantage. Not to mention that this can be replicated on multiple accounts for an ultimately ENOURMOUS advantage.

What is the point of posting garbage like this. You just insult our intelligence and alienate us even more.

Word to the stupid - just say you acknowledge what a major problem it is and are working on it. Even if you aren't working on it or are putting such a feeble amount of resource towards it, no sensible solution will come for years. You are better off lying that you are providing a solution than pretending to us there isn't a problem.

CM responses just come across as flamebait/trolling these days. 

I'm stating a fact. Despite we're doing our best to prevent/block the opportunity of using bots in our games, there's a limited amount of action you can do in the game if you using such programs so they don't give any significant advantages.

Lord djmoody, I'm asking you to be polite and treat with respect both players and our team when commenting the topics.

Just the ability to have units that come out of production get moved to catacombs, because you use scripts (bot software) to do it, create a massive unfair adventage. Or other mundane tasks that require a player to sit in front of the actual screen do stuff. Like activate dragon every 3 hours and so on. It might sounds not much, but in the long run, have a script play the game for you when you not around yourself, create a big adventage. Maybe if you included some code that would make the screen re-adjust slighty every few minutes so clicks would be off. you could counter a lot of this.

djmoody said:

Eugenia Misura said:

If we're talking specifically about bots, it has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.

Why do you write such utter nonsense.

Virtually all MMO's are about grinding repetitive tasks. 

If you play properly they become about your level of dedication and or your efficiency in performing that grind (although this particular game is so unbalanced and broken it's purely about how much money you are willing to spend).

Someone who cheats with a bot can perform all the grinding tasks, to perfection. That is a massive frakin unfair advantage. Not to mention that this can be replicated on multiple accounts for an ultimately ENOURMOUS advantage.

What is the point of posting garbage like this. You just insult our intelligence and alienate us even more.

Word to the stupid - just say you acknowledge what a major problem it is and are working on it. Even if you aren't working on it or are putting such a feeble amount of resource towards it, no sensible solution will come for years. You are better off lying that you are providing a solution than pretending to us there isn't a problem.

CM responses just come across as flamebait/trolling these days. 

I'm stating a fact. Despite we're doing our best to prevent/block the opportunity of using bots in our games, there's a limited amount of action you can do in the game if you using such programs so they don't give any significant advantages.

Lord djmoody, I'm asking you to be polite and treat with respect both players and our team when commenting the topics.

johanrayne said:

Stormfall said:

If anyone want to see the scale of the problem with bots/total control thing check out verylargeleage (<yes that's how it is spelled) league on s1.

technically, those are alts, but possibly they bot as well.

yep, wish that is how i could be a league of one.  40 of me.

Just 40 Johanrayne? Why not 150? If you work it right you should be able to make # 1 league without having to put any money down or do the grind. Just click, click, click and wait.

Great things come to those who cheat.

I saw the initial post. And as I mentioned, you can't get Sapphires for free or pay less Resources for some in-game actions. 

If we're talking specifically about bots, it has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.

And yes, 'mass-ban' is one of the ways of struggle with such accounts in the game. It such cases we ban multple accounts at once.

Warrior said:

Gadheras said:

Warrior said:

Gadheras said:

Warrior said:

New Master castle as checked. One of the moderators also reported it. It has been passed further up. Thanks for reporting.

As I said before, the master castle doesn't matter, they just make another, and another and another. you need to cut off all the limbs, and that is all the fkn bots. Sure they can make new ones, but it will take time before they usefull again. And if Plarium serious about deal with bots. They should have ample time meanwhile actually do something about it. This just reached a high level of retardness.

I agree but as i said they are working on it. We will inform on the updates as soon as we know about it.

Maybe I should make use of their PVP points for tournaments service. Tempting aint it?

Hope that does not jeopardize your credit Card..

Well their add claim you pay after you get what you want, so you could potentional screw them over after you got what you wanted. Or you could feel happy about the service and use paypal.

Eugenia Misura said:

I'm stating a fact. Despite we're doing our best to prevent/block the opportunity of using bots in our games, there's a limited amount of action you can do in the game if you using such programs so they don't give any significant advantages.

Lord djmoody, I'm asking you to be polite and treat with respect both players and our team when commenting the topics.

1st in game DJ and I have "had our differences".

2nd I have yet to see him be anything but factual about Plarium.

3rd He is correct in that polite works both ways.  I've not read anything where he was rude to you in any way.

4th YOU talk down to us players on a regular basis.  If it isn't rude, it's at least condescending.

Gadheras said:

Eugenia Misura said:

djmoody said:

Eugenia Misura said:

If we're talking specifically about bots, it has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.

Why do you write such utter nonsense.

Virtually all MMO's are about grinding repetitive tasks. 

If you play properly they become about your level of dedication and or your efficiency in performing that grind (although this particular game is so unbalanced and broken it's purely about how much money you are willing to spend).

Someone who cheats with a bot can perform all the grinding tasks, to perfection. That is a massive frakin unfair advantage. Not to mention that this can be replicated on multiple accounts for an ultimately ENOURMOUS advantage.

What is the point of posting garbage like this. You just insult our intelligence and alienate us even more.

Word to the stupid - just say you acknowledge what a major problem it is and are working on it. Even if you aren't working on it or are putting such a feeble amount of resource towards it, no sensible solution will come for years. You are better off lying that you are providing a solution than pretending to us there isn't a problem.

CM responses just come across as flamebait/trolling these days. 

I'm stating a fact. Despite we're doing our best to prevent/block the opportunity of using bots in our games, there's a limited amount of action you can do in the game if you using such programs so they don't give any significant advantages.

Lord djmoody, I'm asking you to be polite and treat with respect both players and our team when commenting the topics.

Just the ability to have units that come out of production get moved to catacombs, because you use scripts (bot software) to do it, create a massive unfair adventage. Or other mundane tasks that require a player to sit in front of the actual screen do stuff. Like activate dragon every 3 hours and so on. It might sounds not much, but in the long run, have a script play the game for you when you not around yourself, create a big adventage. Maybe if you included some code that would make the screen re-adjust slighty every few minutes so clicks would be off. you could counter a lot of this.

Btw, I don't see Dj as being rude to anyone, its more about frustration. Also considering the state of things, I would be more worried about other things than what could be considered bad language if any. The most sensible thing to do, would be to hunker down, adopt a thick skin and try fix   greater issues, and you would see the community turn around as well. As Dj mentioned in another post, when you have rather "key" content creator players leave the game it create huge ripples. Once a domino effect started, its very hard to stop it you  know.  

Sophisticated bots (like the kind being used to control thousands of accounts) don't actually click on anything, or even load the game graphics.  They just submit packets to the server with certain commands in them (ie upgrade building x, or send troops to target y).  This is why things like graphics changes have little to no affect on the bots. 

As I see it the bots provide huge advantages.  Not in what they can do on a single account, but in the fact that they allow a single person to manage a large number of accounts.   Who needs an account with 500 million offense when you can turn a bot on, then come back a few months later and have 100 accounts with 50 million each?  I suppose it's the same as having several leagues of regular players all willing to spend their entire army however you tell them to, so you could accomplish the same thing by being some kind of super diplomat/leader, but it's certainly a major advantage over even the average coiner.