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Dec 22, 2016, 23:2812/22/16
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We don't understand.

We were told do not yellow bar or rewards would be delayed, with BG you have 2 options yellow bar or kill, what other STRATEGY can be employed.

THIS IS NOT A SLOT MACHINE and if you want to say it is by the response of being "out of sync" then there is no STRATEGY 


Why are we told we can't discuss part of the game in "game discussion" should you rename the category "mods choice of topics" or they will be closed and I will probably get banned or warned but maybe some will see this before I am censored.

This is starting to feel like a dictatorship, time to rise up people
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Dec 23, 2016, 12:1212/23/16
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thefray said:


We were told do not yellow bar or rewards would be delayed, with BG you have 2 options yellow bar or kill, what other STRATEGY can be employed.

THIS IS NOT A SLOT MACHINE and if you want to say it is by the response of being "out of sync" then there is no STRATEGY 


Why are we told we can't discuss part of the game in "game discussion" should you rename the category "mods choice of topics" or they will be closed and I will probably get banned or warned but maybe some will see this before I am censored.

This is starting to feel like a dictatorship, time to rise up people

Lord thefray, where did you get the information from Plarium representative that BGs are "out of sync"?

Dec 23, 2016, 12:1612/23/16
Dec 23, 2016, 12:22(edited)
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Eugenia Misura said:


thefray said:


We were told do not yellow bar or rewards would be delayed, with BG you have 2 options yellow bar or kill, what other STRATEGY can be employed.

THIS IS NOT A SLOT MACHINE and if you want to say it is by the response of being "out of sync" then there is no STRATEGY 


Why are we told we can't discuss part of the game in "game discussion" should you rename the category "mods choice of topics" or they will be closed and I will probably get banned or warned but maybe some will see this before I am censored.

This is starting to feel like a dictatorship, time to rise up people

Lord thefray, where did you get the information from Plarium representative that BGs are "out of sync"?

It was in the reply back to Lord Mark from Plarium support, that the rewards was out of sync but it worked as intended..... go figure...


It also describe the relation between the players and Plarium itself very well.... Out of sync...


Dec 23, 2016, 22:3512/23/16
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I sent in a support ticket at the suggestion of the prior CM and received the "EXACT" same response as Lord Marc before he sent his in and I think a few others got the same "lack of support" reply, they didn't bother looking into the case, just a canned reply. And yes I do know BG is voluntary as is all content from Plarium so I do not need that reply either.

All I know is I track my BG and there is no rhyme or reason to the BG, the mythical box rewards seem to have disappeared about the same time as the banking problem appeared. Low level BG are not an issue as you do not need to load 300 million resources to get a "in sync" reward but you have gone too far with the randomness.

What strategy does it take to kill BG, ZERO, just troops, how can you employ a strategy to get a random bank to pay you back for troops lost, these are simply SLOT MACHINES which do not belong in a strategy game.

Why would your game make us bank 300 million to get a 125 million reward, this shoule be as simple as fill the bank and it empties when level and bank are within 25% of each other, not double or triple and keeping our troops.

The BG are setup to where we can take a loss, get our troops trapped or kill the game for us when we run out of troops before a "synced" payout but at no point can we make a profit like a true slot machine so I ask you a very direct question, what is the point of BG from Plarium's point of view. And again I do understand they are voluntary but why have content that enrages so many people? Dial em back and line up the rewards back to banking levels without the random you never know factor, you can lose it all or lose a little but we have one to two tourneys a week to encourage you to do BG, this seems like a mixed message.
Dec 26, 2016, 17:5512/26/16
Dec 26, 2016, 18:12(edited)
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Warrior said:


I have been in IT industry for the past 12 years

...and now you are a moderator on stormfall forum... congratz? Your last comments sounded liked you were trying to get the position.

ps. did the number of moderators finally surpassed number of active people here?

Dec 26, 2016, 18:1212/26/16
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Warrior said:




4th para: I have been in IT industry for the past 12 years and playing MMO games for the past 15 years(atleast) and i can say that the forum can improve and we can put in the forum as suggestions inorder to get it in Developers eyes rather than whining about it here. The filtering is required to make sure only relevent information is passed since if all things are passed there is a higher possiblity that the important parts can be missed. Hence the first line of support was created.

Well I been playing mmo's ever since the first round of Planetarion. Thats over 16 years ago. Their server was run from the living room of the dudes ran the game, and you could chat with them on IRC.


Since then I played numberous mmo's and other games. Been beta tester for several, age of conan, swtor, secret world and a few others. Im used to have the devs actually communciate with the players in mmo's I play. Over 13 years with EVE and CCP Games probably spoiled me a lot as well. What I really miss with Plarium is accountability. You have the CM's acting as carrier pidgeons. But you have no idea who sitting on the other side. Its a sterile enviroment, not good for build a healthy commuity. If there exist such a thing as a lead dev, or game designer(s), have some face time with the community in form of dev blogs or videos wouldn't be that terrible.

The feeling I got is kinda like



Dec 26, 2016, 22:5112/26/16
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Gadheras said:


Warrior said:




As the CM said that we and will do the best we can but we all have our roles to play.

"The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast."


Words of a colorful man that...


I feel we the players getting played like stooges....

i understand the situation here.. Not more than few weeks back i was at the same place as you. But in only way we can go ahead is by working together. We will try our best and will need all your support by making the discussion so that we have more things to take ahead from here.


Really appreciate the details that all the players put forward here so as to make our discussion with Devs more proof based.
Dec 26, 2016, 23:0212/26/16
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Guys wake up!!!!! You all see it in every post the Mods make lol.


Its time to all move on!!! 

Nothing will ever change!!!

Dec 26, 2016, 23:0612/26/16
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Warrior said:


Gadheras said:


Warrior said:




As the CM said that we and will do the best we can but we all have our roles to play.

"The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast."


Words of a colorful man that...


I feel we the players getting played like stooges....

i understand the situation here.. Not more than few weeks back i was at the same place as you. But in only way we can go ahead is by working together. We will try our best and will need all your support by making the discussion so that we have more things to take ahead from here.


Really appreciate the details that all the players put forward here so as to make our discussion with Devs more proof based.

Yeah but there is no real discussion. Its more about the players complain and get sick of the deafening silence from Plarium in regards of the said complaints. The releation between players and the devs need to be more symbiotic. The one can't exist without the other. In the words of Plarium.. everything is just "out of sync"...


Dec 27, 2016, 04:2912/27/16
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Gadheras said:

Warrior said:


Gadheras said:


Warrior said:




As the CM said that we and will do the best we can but we all have our roles to play.

"The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast."


Words of a colorful man that...


I feel we the players getting played like stooges....

i understand the situation here.. Not more than few weeks back i was at the same place as you. But in only way we can go ahead is by working together. We will try our best and will need all your support by making the discussion so that we have more things to take ahead from here.


Really appreciate the details that all the players put forward here so as to make our discussion with Devs more proof based.

Yeah but there is no real discussion. Its more about the players complain and get sick of the deafening silence from Plarium in regards of the said complaints. The releation between players and the devs need to be more symbiotic. The one can't exist without the other. In the words of Plarium.. everything is just "out of sync"...


As per our discussion, let us see how the improvement can be put but as i said the fight will always be against time as well. The step has been taken from the Live Stream and we all learn from our mistakes and short coming, i hope we can make this better as well.
Dec 23, 2016, 17:0512/23/16
Dec 23, 2016, 22:39(edited)
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why clutter up a tutorial, a tutorial should only have relevant information on "how to".

issues of "how to" not working should be in game discussion.

i have already stated many times how more than 1 thread can be advantages.  how the emergent structure develops.
Dec 27, 2016, 13:1512/27/16
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Stormfall said:


Warrior said:


I have been in IT industry for the past 12 years

...and now you are a moderator on stormfall forum... congratz? Your last comments sounded liked you were trying to get the position.

ps. did the number of moderators finally surpassed number of active people here?

i had applied and i was selected without having the knowledge of my Real life work.. my interactions on the forum helped more than my work profile.

Helping others is part of my nature. Hence i am trying to do the same here. I don think the number of mods even exceeds the number of active players in some leagues.
Dec 23, 2016, 09:0012/23/16
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djmoody said:


Nothing they do is right. Devoid of moral compass. Everything about Plarium exists only to take short term profit.

I wonder how the people that work there get any pleasure out of their day. I guess they are just building career and CV points in the hope they might get a job at a developer who might create a meaningful experience one day. I am sure a lot of the general line staff would actually like to be involved in something they could be proud of.

They aren't the ones raking in the money either. Just keeping a roof over their heads.

I got sick of air plane noises. I found a game from stardocks in early access on steam to quell the noises with. So far it haven't gone out of sync on me :p


Dec 23, 2016, 04:4512/23/16
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I meant we don't understand them locking BG discussion in the game discussion section, it isn't right.
Dec 23, 2016, 04:1512/23/16
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the truth of the matter is, its a stolen, copied, cloned what ever game format.  they probably dont even have devs that know the BG algorithm anymore.

flash developers are outdated, probably fired a long time ago. 

all plarium devs are hard at work making mobile platform games. 

Dec 22, 2016, 23:3912/22/16
Dec 23, 2016, 00:09(edited)
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in this forum like strategy by plarium need only comment 

"fantastic game"

"hello i m new"

"hello is a big game"

"take big rewards"

"take my VISA"


the storyline need to take them with fake gameplay tips

The truth hurts

Dec 27, 2016, 12:2312/27/16
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zach-rose11 said:


Warrior, with all due respect, I feel like the link you provided me is an outdated version. No one seems to believe that that "tutorial" is helpful, I mean, at least from reading through the comments. It is from 2015, and it is outdated, at least parts of it. Would you care to ask Lord Oberon for an updated version? :) 



I think that the majority of the community is having trouble with BG's and it's causing them to not want to play, or causing them to quit the game. Can't see how Plarium would want this! :(

Lord zach-rose11, Battlegrounds is a very complicated and interesting gameplay features. Some experienced players not only did BGs, but created spreadsheets, strategies and tips based on their observations. Such Lords and Ladies have helped many of players how to use Reaources for these missions wisely.


If this tutorial is outdated, so maybe it's time to create new tips or guidelines? Maybe we can find a Lord or Lady, who would like to share their tips and strategies and create such an article or a topic?
Dec 27, 2016, 12:1512/27/16
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zach-rose11 said:

I think it would benefit Plarium, to introduce a tutorial or either sponsor a player to help the community understand BG mechanics in real-time via live stream or a Q/A with actual answers not just linking an excel spreadsheet or telling them to yellow bar.


If this were to happen, players would see a better way to do BG's and thus they would start doing them more often. Plarium would not lose any money this way either, since you would attract more players to actually "WANT TO" do BG's instead of them coming on the forums and complaining how they lose more than they gained and get the response of, "You're doing them wrong. Look at this payout I got! 10,000 dragons and 5,000 Grifs!).


tl;dr Teach us a correct or at least better way of doing these crucial BG's and allow us to see rewards more often to encourage more attempts!


We're planning to launch more streams in the future. How do you think, will it be a good idea to dedicate one of the topics to Battlegrounds only?
Dec 27, 2016, 12:1212/27/16
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Gadheras said:


Warrior said:




4th para: I have been in IT industry for the past 12 years and playing MMO games for the past 15 years(atleast) and i can say that the forum can improve and we can put in the forum as suggestions inorder to get it in Developers eyes rather than whining about it here. The filtering is required to make sure only relevent information is passed since if all things are passed there is a higher possiblity that the important parts can be missed. Hence the first line of support was created.

Well I been playing mmo's ever since the first round of Planetarion. Thats over 16 years ago. Their server was run from the living room of the dudes ran the game, and you could chat with them on IRC.


Since then I played numberous mmo's and other games. Been beta tester for several, age of conan, swtor, secret world and a few others. Im used to have the devs actually communciate with the players in mmo's I play. Over 13 years with EVE and CCP Games probably spoiled me a lot as well. What I really miss with Plarium is accountability. You have the CM's acting as carrier pidgeons. But you have no idea who sitting on the other side. Its a sterile enviroment, not good for build a healthy commuity. If there exist such a thing as a lead dev, or game designer(s), have some face time with the community in form of dev blogs or videos wouldn't be that terrible.

The feeling I got is kinda like



Lord Gadheras, if you want to know me better, you can ask :) I'm a real person with family, job, hobbies and so on. Of course, I can answer not all of your questions, because here, on the Forum, I'm a Plarium representative first of all. And I can't share all the information about our game creation or balance. But still.

What would you like to know?
Dec 28, 2016, 13:2812/28/16
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jumy said:



small sample of those who play this game, a alt buyer with autobot, he pay?

always in the usual notes leagues, always wake up at least 3 castles


sure deserves access to the VIP program if is not already



We don't understand. What there is to understand?
What do you want to show by this screenshot, Jumi?
Dec 27, 2016, 04:2012/27/16
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zach-rose11 said:


Warrior, with all due respect, I feel like the link you provided me is an outdated version. No one seems to believe that that "tutorial" is helpful, I mean, at least from reading through the comments. It is from 2015, and it is outdated, at least parts of it. Would you care to ask Lord Oberon for an updated version? :) 



I think that the majority of the community is having trouble with BG's and it's causing them to not want to play, or causing them to quit the game. Can't see how Plarium would want this! :(

Hi Zach, That is a link by a player. It gives out the strategy that he uses and not the in game mechanism of BG that plarium has deviced. The main reason we play this game is for the use of strategy if everyone knew the in game BG mechanics then there will be no strategy at all. It will be like a mechanical game. From my honest opinion, giving out the in game mechanics is some thing that Lord Oberon would also not able to do. Hence we as a player need to find it out on what the best method is.


I agree that BG is a risky affair and from a few players have left doing BGs. Infact till 6 months back i was also not doing BG but then i found the way to make profit out of it and it was way before i was even a moderator(it only 2 weeks as Mod). People have switched to low level BGs or only making troops rather than doing BG.

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