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Guide to Serums (Re-upload)

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8 лют. 2015, 22:2108.02.15
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Guide to Serums (Re-upload)

Since plarium decided to nuke the past forum, threads like this was killed. Had a copy of this saved to the clan site so decided to re-upload it. All credit for creating this solely goes to Biohazard, credit for nuking the last forum goes to plarium... well done, you deserve it -_-"
 
Guide to Serum Use


Here is some more info about serums for those who haven't had much experience with them yet.
Most of the cryo boxes you get in game (other than the ones you buy from black market) have one level 1 serum in them. There are 8 different types of serums, one for each unit type's offense and defense, and each box gives you a random type. To get higher level serums you have to combine 2 of the same type and level to get one that is a level higher. So if you want to make a high level serum, here are the amounts of level 1 serums (all of the same type) you would need:
level 2: 2
level 3: 4
level 4: 8
level 5: 16
level 6: 32
level 7: 64
level 8: 128
level 9: 256
level 10: 512
level 11: 1024
level 12: 2048
Keep in mind that each box gives a random serum type, so your chance of getting the type you want is 1 in 8. *All estimates from this point on assume there is an even distribution between the 8 types, although I haven't done enough testing to confirm this it seems to be a reasonable assumption.* This means that to make a level 12 serum of a specific type would require you to open (2048*8 ) = 16384 boxes. You can buy higher boxes in black market that give up to 2 level 5 serums, for 3300 crystals each. To create a level 12 serum from these would take 128 level 5 serums, or (128/2*8 )= 512 boxes, which would cost 1.7 million crystals. This is an optimistic estimate, in my experience they usually gave one level 5 and one level 3, while this assumes 2 level 5s every time.
Once you activate a serum, you have to pay crystals to remove it. This costs 500 crystals for level 1-4 serums, 2500 for level 5-8 serums, and 5000 for level 9-12 serums. This means that it's best to not activate a serum until you have reached the final level you want to get it to, but if you have already activated one at level 3 or higher it's better to extract it than destroy it.
Here are some examples of what the different levels of serum do:



They seem to increase in power at a steady rate, so if a level 1 serum gives a type of unit +1% power, a level 2 would give 2% and a level 12 would give 12%. These numbers are added to other bonuses and not stacked. So if you had a trooper at max research level with a +5% damage artifact and +12% from a serum, it would have 40 *(1+.4+.05+.12) offense power, NOT 40*1.4*1.05*1.12. This applies to defense boosts also. The defense boosting serums also have the interesting feature that they give different boosts against different units. for example the ones that boost the defense of air units have a higher boost % vs infantry than vs other air units or artillery. They seem to help "even out" units, by giving them higher boosts against things that they are normally weak against. The ones for cheaper units ( infantry) also seem to give a higher boost for each level than the ones for artillery or armor. This means they can be useful for the units that give you the cheapest power (for example troopers). Get 3 level 5 infantry offense boost serums, 2 +5% perm infantry offense artifacts (these are fairly easy to get if you do battles a lot) and max trooper research level, and your troopers will each have 40*(1+.4+.15+.1)=66 offense power. With level 12 serums this would go up to 75 offense (although it would also cost a prohibitive amount of crystals).

In conclusion, serums can be either a helpful advantage or a giant money pit, depending on how you use them. I would recommend not activating serums until you reach at least level 5-6. But don't hold off for level 12, unless you plan on playing td until the day you die (or spending your entire life savings on it). Remember each level takes twice as long/much money to reach as the level before it. You can only activate 3 serums at a time, so you will have to decide which units you prefer to use (or just go with whatever highest level serums you get). Is 8% extra offense on artillery better than 4% on artillery and 4% on armor? It all depends what type of units you use.         

~ Biohazard

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9 лют. 2015, 09:5609.02.15
26 жовт. 2020, 12:03(відредаговано)
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Thanks for archiving and re-sharing this topic

 

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9 лют. 2015, 20:0109.02.15
04.10.13
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Update: you can only have 1 of each type of serum (ie only 1 infantry offense serum, not 3) so to get a higher boost you have to combine them. 

Also, for some serums as you get higher in level the boost % increases. 

So you would expect level 8 to give 8*0.5=4% boost, but it actually gives

This seems to be the case for both offense and defense serums, but only the ones for armor and higher units, the ones for infantry ones progress at a constant rate.

26 берез. 2015, 02:5026.03.15
29 груд. 2018, 16:46(відредаговано)
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hey bio......

BiohazarDModerator
26 берез. 2015, 15:2626.03.15
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Saad Malik said:

hey bio......

Hello.  Please don't comment on dead threads unless you have something new to add.  If you want to hear my voice (err typing) there are plenty of live ones to go to :)

7 трав. 2016, 16:2607.05.16
28.02.14
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Im confused about how the serums work and need to understand how much boost will the serums give:


Example of interceptor defense at my base: 

1 Interceptor Base Defense             = 587.50

40% boost from lvl 20 Tech              = 235.00

20% from artifact                            = 117.50

5% Clan Achievements bonus         =  29.38

8% from clan HQ def bonus            =  47.00

Serum Precognition Lvl 8  (5.25%)   = 30.84

Serum Regeneration Lvl 8  (11.20%) = 65.80

Serum Cloning Lvl 8  (14.00%)         = 85.50

So total 1 cepy defense should be   = 1,198.52


but my interceptor shows 1065.70 def, and precognition serum activated at 7.50% 

Thats 4 Million less defense if I have 30k cepies :p




What am I missing?? Is this another bug? if not then please tell me how does the defense / offense boost works?

BiohazarDModerator
7 трав. 2016, 23:0807.05.16
7 трав. 2016, 23:10(відредаговано)
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cD-pSyKik said:


Im confused about how the serums work and need to understand how much boost will the serums give:


Example of interceptor defense at my base: 

1 Interceptor Base Defense             = 587.50

40% boost from lvl 20 Tech              = 235.00

20% from artifact                            = 117.50

5% Clan Achievements bonus         =  29.38

8% from clan HQ def bonus            =  47.00

Serum Precognition Lvl 8  (5.25%)   = 30.84

Serum Regeneration Lvl 8  (11.20%) = 65.80

Serum Cloning Lvl 8  (14.00%)         = 85.50

So total 1 cepy defense should be   = 1,198.52


but my interceptor shows 1065.70 def, and precognition serum activated at 7.50% 

Thats 4 Million less defense if I have 30k cepies :p




What am I missing?? Is this another bug? if not then please tell me how does the defense / offense boost works?

Each serum boost the defense of one type of unit.  Regeneration and cloning serums boost the defense of infantry and armor units, they have no effect on interceptors. 

Precognition gives different boosts to your interceptors when they fight against different unit types of enemy troops.  The 7.5% is the average of these boosts multiplied by the interceptors respective base stats. 
7 трав. 2016, 23:5207.05.16
28.02.14
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Got it, I missed the serum type, damn i wasted so much time writing that lol
15 січ. 2019, 16:4615.01.19
15 січ. 2019, 20:36(відредаговано)
20.02.17
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"Precognition gives different boosts to your interceptors when they fight against different unit types of enemy troops. The 7.5% is the average of these boosts multiplied by the interceptors respective base stats.  "


Can you pls show how the 7.5 % was obtained?


I am having similar confusion.  I am using Cloning L5 serum for Def Infantry.  But for cyberdog, my screen is showing 6.42% boost, and for gladiator it shows 6.09% boost.  Even from your good discussion I still cannot see how that happens. The Cloning boosts shown for the four types of troops are 5/5/8/8 with average = 6.5%.

Moreover, even though what I installed in the genetics lab is Cloning L5, my game pieces are saying Cloning L6, go figure!

Thanks in advance.