Littlebiscuitz said:
In regards to people raiding you after you attack an emporium thats just strange emporiums by nature are supposed to be contested and left and that, overspill such as raiding cities is again petty.
Of course not.
They're resources collecting points by nature.
The fact that, as opposed to colonies (and abandonned cities sieges, where one jav is enough), you're now forced to garrison large amounts of defense there, means your losses are massive, not even talking about the spilled denarii and drachmas.
People will certainly not let you go away with killing their troops, nor wasting their time and precious drachmas and denarii.
You're certainly free to aggress people like that if you like, but you then won't come whinning when your due punishment will fall on your head.
If there's any etiquette there, it's about playing like ancient Greeks would probably act when it comes to war : declare war first, then fight once you're aknowledged as ennemies, instead of sneaking like traitors and cowards.
There's a reason why people have different status towards each other : ennemies, friends an neutral. There's also a reason why there's an embassy inside every city.
You're still free to make new ennemies by the dozen, but you won't come complaining once you've got too much of them to cope with, and your coalition will probably refuse to help you if you're starting wars everywhere, as they've got diplomacy concerns for lots of reasons, starting with the community's troops stored inside your capital and pantheons, that are an easy target for a revenge.
Now in a general way, about etiquette, it's untrue to say it's just a chaotic mayhem.
Well, of course, the game doesn't impose rules there, as Alyona recalled : etiquette here is only a free social addition between players.
It's first of all a social game where dialogue and agreements have a lot of importance.
For instance, about sieges, it's common for allies to share free access to them, but people usually don't like outsider to use them without warning, as good farms are sometimes rare enough so they try to preserve them for known friends.
However, sensible people will siege them with just one jav and will generally not mind if you raid them.
But I know some lunatics who become mad and bomb you for a full week for just one raid, so maybe you should still ask first.
After all, politeness won't kill you, and it's still the best way to make friends on the game, wich is by far, anyway, its most interesting feature.
Some people will also protect some specific sieges with lots of troops and attacking them without warning may result in heavy losses for both parties, so it's sometimes just elementary caution.
In any cases, the reason why many people prefer you to scout first is :
- You'll avoid useless raids and kills when the city is actually empty
- He'll be warned, so he'll be able to collect resources and eventually recall offense or any excess troops he might have forgotten there (for both his and your sake)
Of course, messaging is even better, unless you have an agreement with the guy already (else it's the perfect time to make one). ;)
In short, try to play as civilized people, not beasts...
