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24 лют. 2018, 19:1924.02.18
231990

(time) confirmation regarding bonuses applied

hello folks , if anyone of you moderators could confirm a doubt i have ,

now when you send a raid/siege/coa attack , while your troops are already marching forward towards the target and are almost there ,

if you then switch on your bonuses , dominion , elixirs , offence bonus from the amphitheatre , 20% offence bonus , equip your general (according to those specific units involved) , then will all of their added bonus take affect on those troops that are already marching to their target?

or is it compulsary to add all these bonuses for it to take effect on your troops and then launch them?

just curious .

thankyou.

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25 лют. 2018, 18:5925.02.18
231990
same question
3 берез. 2018, 18:0703.03.18
3 берез. 2018, 18:08(відредаговано)
22.08.15
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Dimitri Molchanov said:

As the effect is universal and applies to all Troops no matter where they are, it should still be applied to the Troops that are marching towards their target as well.
Is that a confirmation or a big Should ?
5 берез. 2018, 16:2005.03.18
231990

as klaatu said , that means its doesnt affect on the troops if their already marching towards the target  , ah

yeah speed wont change , but since capacity doesnt change means the offence bonus also wont change or be applied for the troops that are already marching towards a target , 

perhaps we should try it out , sending 1k javs in one city , and 1k jas in another city , send out a 100 swords for a raid , while their about to reach the target , switch on dom , and all the bonuses , and see the report , then as the dom and all the bonunses are on we should send another 100 swords to the other city containing 1k javs , and see the difference between the two reports of how many kill and how many losses , that can determine the answer to the doubt we have i suppose , will try it out later on , but should send those javs to level 2 cities containing no towers and so on
6 берез. 2018, 08:2006.03.18
231990
A test would be interesting indeed. There is nothing stating that the bonuses only apply to the Troops stationed in your City (unlike certain other Enhancers that do point it out) and you can see the bonuses displayed for all Troops in their offensive stats. While Capacity will likely stay the same because it's decided when the Army is marching out of your City, I think their offensive stats should still increase because they do not come into play until the actual battle starts.
7 берез. 2018, 08:5807.03.18
231990
Huh, that is weird! I will try to run a few tests myself and see how it goes!
8 берез. 2018, 18:0108.03.18
231990
Not every city have same bonus on army.. some cities have extra bonuses on their defense thanks to coalition capital discipline, coalition achievement etc, there could be many factors...
12 берез. 2018, 08:4712.03.18
231990
The Punisher said:

thanks for making an effort to test it out mate , looks convincing , 


what results i got was absolutely wierd , did nothing wrong , but i will try it out again , this time same city , not different ones , for my own satisfaction i want to test it out , lol

anyways thankyou for sharing the reports which weigh more toward confirming that they should work , 

have a good day !
No problem, it was actually quite fun to run different tests! And I am rather curious what went on in your own test as well  If you find out, feel free to post the results here!
12 берез. 2018, 14:3012.03.18
07.10.15
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The Punisher said:



yeah speed wont change , 


An update on this: if you send raid out and your dominion is on, and in the middle of the raid you run out of dominion, the raid will slow down, just like you launched it without dominion (i guess), but if you dont have dominion on and you send raid and than turn it on it wont speed up the raid... i have tested this few times, so im certain in that... and i always figured same would be applied to the boost you were talking about...
12 берез. 2018, 16:0712.03.18
231990
I think that is the case of certain parameters - speed of travel in this case - coming into play at the time of the Raid being sent and others (Unit offense stats) at the time of the battle. It is the same with Emporia Resource gathering bonus, it has to be applied before you send your Troops.
19 берез. 2018, 03:0719.03.18
231990

dmitri! hey there mate , 

i did the test again , here are the results , 

500 javeliners sent to a city , i then launched 100 swords , while they were on their way and about to reach the target , i then turned on dominion , 20% offence enhancer , 25% offence bonus (amphitheatre) , here is the result https://prnt.sc/it36vc

55 swords lost , 267 javeliners killed


second attempt , while these bonuses were already active , 500 javs sent to the same city and 100 swords launched to see the difference , here is the result https://prnt.sc/it36zj

55 swords lost same as previous , however i killed 2 javeliners lesser than the first test , and got 1 point lesser in pvp 



when i had done this test before , i thought you may have been right that its because i had done on different cities it may have manipulated the results , this time i made sure everything was done perfectly and in order , lol

i dont know about you guys , but i think i will activate my bonuses when my troops are about to hit the target from now on! lol


cheers folks

20 берез. 2018, 13:5020.03.18
231990

this only shows that there is something wrong in the game here...

you can talk about variables that can affect battle results all day, but the result on both attacks should be the same, and it somehow ain't...


20 берез. 2018, 14:2320.03.18
231990
It should not always be the same, no. While the general numbers are going to be very similar and one side is not going to suddenly lose the battle with such massive advantage, the number of losses can vary slightly. Two more Javelineers killed by the attacking force is hardly a significant difference, hence why we can conclude that the bonuses have applied properly in both cases.
23 берез. 2018, 10:4523.03.18
231990

There were changes made in the past, here is our announcement on the matter.


While you should not see any huge differences when attacking the same force under the same conditions, getting the exact same result in terms of your and enemy losses is not at all guaranteed.
27 берез. 2018, 07:3527.03.18
231990
Do what you want, but you are just digging your self deeper... It just shows that formula is not consistent, and by my knowledge 2+2 will always be 4... no matter what conditions are...
27 берез. 2018, 08:2827.03.18
27 берез. 2018, 08:29(відредаговано)
231990
Whoever said it was as simple as 2+2?
25 трав. 2018, 15:2125.05.18
20.10.15
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punisher, the guy to whom you asked to send 500 javs might have chnaged his own bonuses as well just to drive you mad lol

I have another remark, that has already been made else where and that is not quite on topic : the city defense bonus does kill some of your off troops when raiding even though there is not a single defending soldier... it shouldn't be the case, as it is supposed to simply increase the strength of defending troops, right ?

25 трав. 2018, 23:2525.05.18
231990

Dimitri , with respect you've had a lot of mileage out of that off the shelf answer " it may not work as we expect it to"

how about changing it to " it's sometimes broken " or " we make it up as we go along "
3 берез. 2018, 22:4003.03.18
3 берез. 2018, 22:42(відредаговано)
231990
From my experiance, yes, bonuses are activated and applied to your units, no matter if you apply them during traveling of units or before.
26 лют. 2018, 09:2726.02.18
231990
As the effect is universal and applies to all Troops no matter where they are, it should still be applied to the Troops that are marching towards their target as well.
26 берез. 2018, 14:0926.03.18
26 берез. 2018, 15:04(відредаговано)
231990
I have already told you several that due to different variables in the formula, two battles under the same conditions may not yield the same results. I could Google Translate it into Chinese if you think that would make the point easier to understand