Bill I believe you to be  one of the best moderators on here    thanks for the  good answers you give back.    I do have question for you though,  im not complaining   just wanted some clarification.

You say that unless  you have good solid proof,     what would that be for you/plarium?    I know what these guys are talking about,  so I just want to know what we need to show to you when this happens.

   Two bugs I have found while playing pp.

1.    play so much  the game cuts you off and you lose everything.   This usually happens  by  being flashed a white screen  when you send your finale attack.    

2.    Another   glitch I have found  is that every now and again  I can hit the left arrow key  and the game screen moves to the left and Im presented with a black screen,   once here I can hit my right arrow key and it will go back to show me my troops    that Im about to send to battle.    

Both of these scenarios I see   when I lose 20 mil-30 mil army.     I can go on with two more examples  of glitches  on pp   but they are a little more technical  and don’t want to type it out just yet.    

Thanks for what you say PMC.

As Dimitri explained perfectly why you've these problems I don't have much more to say.   

For your first situation, yes it's due to an overload of memory, if you play for a long time without disconnecting, the page will eventually freeze, sometimes display a flash player error or other error message and you will have to refresh to continue. If this happens especially when you perform an important action, I think (this does not reflect the opinion of plarium) that it's because you're about to take an action that requires a lot of "resources" to your computer. It takes a lot of memory at once, and added to the previous actions .. he fart... again, it's just a personal opinion.

It's complicated to explain in writing, do you see what I mean ?

It takes very strong evidence such as winning on a level 170 every time, and while doing the same thing on a level 175, we do not win anything. I personally think that the higher the levels, the more you have to be precise in your repayments.   

I add that those who do levels 190 are generally very developed in their treatises, the units are often very powerful. Take this into account when attacking.

All this must be proven by accurate calculations and screenshots.

https://gyazo.com/90224f4f34fad24a76a708836a6899ec i attacked 4 other positions same sort of payout but very severe loses 

https://gyazo.com/4df8a5f4b2c9d09fe6073b1b76206416 and then i get this payout from a much lower level my question and point being i have being paying into higher bank level but seems payout comes at a lower level anybody have an opinion ?? 

PMC said:

heheheh   that is what I have been doing  with only lights and  heavies   : )  no more cav and phalanx.  as long it is lights    there is no way I can be let again.!!!!    thanks    for reply

I know that many players only use Light and Heavy Infantry to "convert" them into higher tier units through Positions and it works out well for them, so it's definitely one of the viable strategies 

Bill Almorra said:

We had checked your bank a few weeks ago and we noticed that you were jumping between high and low levels. I had even informed you of this bad tactic.   

It's not because you are going beyond your bank that you are going to win, you are overloading it. 

The new levels are not different from the weaker ones, they are the same but much more difficult.   

I don't know in detail the PP system, and even if I knew him I would not have the right to tell you.   

Try a level below 175. In your place, I will do that. You see that you don't win, and yet you go on. Now you want to recover your losses.   

I am someone of direct, and I tell you in advance that you will not be able to recover the lost units because there is no problem on the last levels recognized by the developers.   

Unless you have very solid evidence (very very solid).

if you check his bank,then check my bank as well !!!

Now I want to know who's fooling you or Dimitri or Bill? one said he checks or said he does not check anyone's PP !!! who is Pinoquio or do not know what they say ... I know that in many games I played there are weak and unprepared moderators

you checked VODKA RED BULL's pp bank,vodka is VIP,and you checked pp bank for that player above,i can post screenshots where you checked vodka's pp bank,and when i ask for it,i get NO answer as always.

something is really wrong with my pp ,i would like you to check it and tell me how much i'm in?

Tonaya 

Dimitri Molchanov said:

There has never been a need to check Persian Position records, and we do not do that unless there is good reason to believe that something has indeed gone wrong. Truth is, it is a recurring accusation that some players make after failing to achieve the goal that they have set for themselves in pursuing PP. 

I have to agree with moderator here as well,   DIMITRI  unfortunately you are about the last part,  I being guilty of same accusations,  

if you are not playing  with massive amounts of lights  or heavies   you will always get robbed  or short changed on reward.  and this is the problem everyone is  having.  you need  100k X 5 or 10 in lights to get good payouts worth having.   other wise you will just be trading phlanx and cav    for phalanx and cav.  or  what plarium would say playing for points.   and eventually payouts stop coming and you are left with nothing.   also I am guilty of this as well   and have lost  3 bil in power  playing pp,  or  I gained  a  lot of points  and  added  general gear.     

I even think  that  their was a change  to not tax you on troops you sent to position  if you miss calculate and send to much or to many units.   now it only charges you the power needed to win by strongest force sent.    it used to punish me way more  6 months ago.

btw  if you only play with lights and heavies, 1) you keep all rewards given. 2) you don't need drachma to revive  only for boost.  3) while playing pp you lose nothing worth keeping any ways.    4) 98% of all positions are set to attacked or defended by lights and heavies so  you will be hitting for weakest force needed to win, thus saving you overall power  as you play for smaller points   general gear  and so on.

Dimitri Molchanov said:

Tonaya said:

you checked VODKA RED BULL's pp bank,vodka is VIP,and you checked pp bank for that player above,i can post screenshots where you checked vodka's pp bank,and when i ask for it,i get NO answer as always.

something is really wrong with my pp ,i would like you to check it and tell me how much i'm in?

Tonaya 

I didn't check anyone's record for Persian Positions, Tonaya. Nor do I work with VIP players directly.

Dimitri,your moderators deleted my post,here,where i show link's where ex cm Aliona 

 and one moderator checking banks for 2 VIP players,i want to check my bank as well,i played a lot pp in last time and i didnt got anything,so i'm confused there.

if i know that mods wont delete my post again,i would show you how it looks like when player get info from plarium about pp bank,i have screenshot,i'll show you if needed,so please,plarium,check my pp bank like you did to VIP players,even if i'm not VIP

ok I have a question,   and  there is really no complaint  from me about what I have lost here.    as I know very well  how PLARIUM operates.

I tried  to see  what everyone was complaining about at the 190 reward.     I know  why it is not paying out.   so that is not my question.

my question is after hitting  50 levels  just from levels 185-190   for about 4 nights in a row,   my rewards  were nothing.   i would keep going  on the 190s  until I got payout.   but I have never seen a 200 mil in power reward, so I know it is pointless to go any further.   and that all I used is gone.  

this is what is invested into my pp   from this week alone.  at least 4/5  of it went to 190.  it is over  500 mil in power.    

https://gyazo.com/c9470cde49a36da0ae4f1b364d6be365

https://gyazo.com/aaed1a20b4b0567b2db4cae47b4e5702

https://gyazo.com/09b1e693411f15e7b7bf473bd3e3dfca

I know  there is no way you can logically  explain why there was no payout.  

 so when I went back and cleared all my low level position,  when I got to level 105  105   107 109 110  and 111.    everyone  one of them paid me something that is usually not there.      so  here  is my question.      I hope Bill responds  to this!!!!

What do I owe XERSES  now   for me to get my next reward;  is it a combined total of  all rewards,   or is it just the last reward  I was given? 

PLARIUM:  if you say game is an investment  and payout return  then you should make your game have consistent payouts.    then it would eliminate the complaints  on forum.       your  game  is not an investment for reward.     so...   when you stop telling stories to customers/players   you will have  more happy people.     why not advertise it like I read  a long time ago.  XERSES  or PP   is a riddle to be solved.  not an investment.

 so when I went back and cleared all my low level position,  when I got to level 105  105   107 109 110  and 111.    everyone  one of them paid me something that is usually not there.      so  here  is my question.      I hope Bill responds  to this!!!!

Dimitri Molchanov said:

PMC said:

 so when I went back and cleared all my low level position,  when I got to level 105  105   107 109 110  and 111.    everyone  one of them paid me something that is usually not there.      so  here  is my question.      I hope Bill responds  to this!!!!

This is probably one of the most dangerous things one can do when clearing Positions. The losses that you suffered when battling PPs of higher level are not just given back to you in the same level bracket but in any Positions that you attack later. And since lower-tier Positions cannot provide as much reward, you get less than you lost even though the actual reward for that level is higher than usual.

yes  I have  almost recovered.    but I was  wondering   when you get  those multiple payouts.   can you answer what is the loan or payback of troops,   is it the last reward won or is it a combination of all rewards given?

I know this is not how to play  and  wont do it again.    

PMC said:

yes  I have  almost recovered.    but I was  wondering   when you get  those multiple payouts.   can you answer what is the loan or payback of troops,   is it the last reward won or is it a combination of all rewards given?

 

I know this is not how to play  and  wont do it again.    

I cannot give exact details of the algorithm. And it can be hard to predict how many Troops you need to lose before you gain a big reward at Positions because it depends on a few factors and variables.

i think i may not go above level 150 , just to be at the safer side to escape any kinds of bugs mentioned in this topic and posts.

PP has become a joke, pure fool.

Just before Christmas you had to play for the thumb 8-10 Posis between 80-120 to get a nice payout.

Plaruim has clearly massively adjusted upwards since Christmas.

Now you have to play at least 15 Posis to maybe get a payout.

I know many players who do not even get what they pay after 20 big Posis.

As I said a pure fool only the whole.

That's why I can only appeal to everyone, stopping with the PP.