those cities do not belong to Plarium

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/76172_bot-cities-hourly-collection-rate-reduction/

Look at that thread and Dimitri's answer

elias said:

those cities do not belong to Plarium

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/76172_bot-cities-hourly-collection-rate-reduction/

Look at that thread and Dimitri's answer

Thank you Elias-I also made a comment in the thread you listed above. Since that post in October, I have noticed that whenever there is an increase in the "gift" raids from Plarium, there is a considerable "decrease" in "All" bot lines.  

I have kept a spreadsheet of the times when Plarium has made available the "extra" raids-this does not include the additional raids my coalition obtained from the Capture The Flag tournament.

There is a direct correlation in the amount of resources available (or not) to the extra raids made available by Plarium.

175 scout missions-this is what the scouting missions return:

http://prntscr.com/hukanb

Is there a method to contact these "bot makers" and ask them to increase the resources whenever Plarium gives us 20 additional raids? That would be fantastic! 

Best Wishes and Happy New Year to all,

Mick

5 hours later.....over 450 scout missions

http://prntscr.com/hunfzg

screw it..I'm going to start on my Bourbon.

Happy New Year to the honorable players!

those cities do not belong to Plarium

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/76172_bot-cities-hourly-collection-rate-reduction/

Look at that thread and Dimitri's answer

Mick13000 said:

elias said:

those cities do not belong to Plarium

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/76172_bot-cities-hourly-collection-rate-reduction/

Look at that thread and Dimitri's answer

Thank you Elias-I also made a comment in the thread you listed above. Since that post in October, I have noticed that whenever there is an increase in the "gift" raids from Plarium, there is a considerable "decrease" in "All" bot lines.  

I have kept a spreadsheet of the times when Plarium has made available the "extra" raids-this does not include the additional raids my coalition obtained from the Capture The Flag tournament.

There is a direct correlation in the amount of resources available (or not) to the extra raids made available by Plarium.

175 scout missions-this is what the scouting missions return:

http://prntscr.com/hukanb

Is there a method to contact these "bot makers" and ask them to increase the resources whenever Plarium gives us 20 additional raids? That would be fantastic! 

Mick

5 hours later.....over 450 scout missions

http://prntscr.com/hunfzg

screw it..I'm going to start on my Bourbon.

Happy New Year to the honorable players!

Best Wishes and Happy New Year to all,

Come on, Mick. Or you are sarcastic? Every time plarium wants to squeeze more money from the players, it comes up with that scheme you just described. When they simultaneously empty the bots and allow "extra raids", that prompts some of us to get nasty and start stealing from others. The number of conflicts multiplies, so do losses. By design, that results in more purchases in order to replenish those losses. And those "bot makers" are obviously working for Plarium, if not as stuffers then as subcontractors or just they do a job for getting some game-related perks, like a billion-two worth of troops.

knigochey said:

Come on, Mick. Or you are sarcastic? Every time plarium wants to squeeze more money from the players, it comes up with that scheme you just described. When they simultaneously empty the bots and allow "extra raids", that prompts some of us to get nasty and start stealing from others. The number of conflicts multiplies, so do losses. By design, that results in more purchases in order to replenish those losses. And those "bot makers" are obviously working for Plarium, if not as stuffers then as subcontractors or just they do a job for getting  some game-related perks, like a billion-two worth of troops. 
Best Wishes and Happy New Year to all,

Spot On!!

And as we say in my neck of the world..."and now you know..the rest of the story"

Happy New Year to you knigochey. Hope its the very best for you and your family.

Friends when those cities do not have resources we have to look for others, that annoys but it is like that.

To me personally it has helped me to find better cities looking on the map, there is a lot of very high level city abandoned by the whole map.

I learned to play differently, and sometimes the line is more dangerous than active cities

High level cities usually have mostly grain.

Unless they haven't been discovered by many yet or are besieged by some high level player who doesn't like others to bother "his" sieges!

and I XENA although many times when you attack those farm cities the troop also returns with some Greek assassin behind lol

Elias and Xena, you did not address the question: why the bot production reduced 4 times?

they might have told you Plarium has nothing to with that - but it is very naive to believe it. It is as if a Bank said it has nothing to do with an ATM machine that is at the entrance. 

I continue to smile.

I too have tracked the resource changes within the BOT lines over different times.My only firm conclusion is that Plarium does have something to do with them ... although I do not know to what extent. What about when every city in a BOT row (ie 100's of them) is suddenly under protection - some treachery is afoot here !! 

You know what I mostly wish ... that Plarium would stop treating us all as though we were dumb. Endless responses that are - well, flimsy, to be as nice as I can. I consider myself a 'keen regular' on the game ie log in several times every day etc etc. Like many, my loyalty is tested regularly. I avoid sabre-rattling with talk of quitting as it makes not a hoot of difference if I stay or go.

But wouldn't it be neat if answers were greeted more regularly with "that makes sense - thanks for the explanation" type of comments ... rather than the healthy trade in suspicion/doubt/lack of truth that Plarium manages to create.

Tel said:

I continue to smile.

I too have tracked the resource changes within the BOT lines over different times.My only firm conclusion is that Plarium does have something to do with them ... although I do not know to what extent. What about when every city in a BOT row (ie 100's of them) is suddenly under protection - some treachery is afoot here !! 

You know what I mostly wish ... that Plarium would stop treating us all as though we were dumb. Endless responses that are - well, flimsy, to be as nice as I can. I consider myself a 'keen regular' on the game ie log in several times every day etc etc. Like many, my loyalty is tested regularly. I avoid sabre-rattling with talk of quitting as it makes not a hoot of difference if I stay or go.

But wouldn't it be neat if answers were greeted more regularly with "that makes sense - thanks for the explanation" type of comments ... rather than the healthy trade in suspicion/doubt/lack of truth that Plarium manages to create.

Just my 2 cents.

Tel,

Agree with your post 100%

Respectfully,

Mick

P.S.

Sad state of affairs:

 http://prntscr.com/hx18yo

Tel, everything you said is correct. Just have no idea why you are smiling. 

I had a slight hope that after the change of ownership, they change the state of affairs in a positive direction.

Gullible I was. 

The "Strategy" remains the same - to cause countless losses to players so they decided to buy more stuff from Plarium. 

Hi KNIGOCHEY,

My 'smiling' line is a kind of reference to a previous post of mine (can't remember which - although I do not post much) where there were equally flimsy comments from some Plarium lackey or other.

I have to keep smiling otherwise I would probably become bitter and quit. It's akin to listening to some politician on television who trots out total nonsense .... just smile and keep playing :-)

I continue to smile.

I too have tracked the resource changes within the BOT lines over different times.My only firm conclusion is that Plarium does have something to do with them ... although I do not know to what extent. What about when every city in a BOT row (ie 100's of them) is suddenly under protection - some treachery is afoot here !! 

You know what I mostly wish ... that Plarium would stop treating us all as though we were dumb. Endless responses that are - well, flimsy, to be as nice as I can. I consider myself a 'keen regular' on the game ie log in several times every day etc etc. Like many, my loyalty is tested regularly. I avoid sabre-rattling with talk of quitting as it makes not a hoot of difference if I stay or go.

But wouldn't it be neat if answers were greeted more regularly with "that makes sense - thanks for the explanation" type of comments ... rather than the healthy trade in suspicion/doubt/lack of truth that Plarium manages to create.

Just my 2 cents.

Hi Dimitri,

Thanks for the reply.

It's unfortunate - I am by nature a positive type and try to be objective in my thinking. One of the key problems here is past events. We all understand that Plarium is a commercial organisation and so no profits = no Plarium. However, virtually all of the game 'improvements' that are implemented are poorly disguised methods designed to further milk those players that will spend on the game. This in turn leads to cynicism which in turn leads to mistrust. 

For the BOT's, I just find it difficult to understand how thousands of unsanctioned cities are allowed to exist within Plarium's game. If Plarium does not sanction or want these cities then why are they not removed ? In many ways, it indeed would have been better if these cities had been promptly removed from the game. It would have stopped players now feeling 'cheated' out of the resources that used to be there; but perhaps more importantly it would have proven they were not part of a Plarium masterplan and that Plarium was in control of it's game. For Plarium to know there are thousands of bogus cities but either a) not able to or b) choose not to fix ... well, it is hardly going to generate any positive reaction towards the game's owner.

I will not rant and rave and will never be abusive in my posts .. I just put my thoughts out there as constructively as I can.

Dimitri made an ticket in wich i posted  the coordinates to those cities (276604)..hope you guys will delete them   

Dimitri Molchanov said:

I will avoid addressing the first point, as it is a whole different debate that would derail the conversation. For the bots - we do remove these Cities occasionally when we have a solid list of them and can confirm that they are indeed bots.However, many players do like these easy Resource "farms". You may have seen the other thread on the matter, such sentiment was voiced there. So while we will be removing them in due time, we are not going to remove abandoned Cities of players that left the game, as an example.

The resource reduction of Bot Line Cities is already negative action from Plarium side and if you remove Bot Cities instead of restoring the production as was before then several players will stop playing the game sooner or later.

The Best action from Plarium Side is to restore the resource production as was before and change the login password to lock the Bot Master Owner out.
 

There are a lot of sources but the majority of guys don't want to angry x or y  guy wich siege an city . It's time to not be complacent  and  wanting easy targets , attack the sieges of crybabies wich thinks all map it's theirs :))  Nobody   has more then one city and   the ones  that can't  share resources  should have  to pay :) 
  Delete all the bots and make  this game more intresting