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4 лют. 2025, 18:0304.02.25
27.04.23
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abnormal losses from PA

Hello, I've been under PA attack lately, 10 times from the same player within minutes and at times it did not seem to work properly with my 90% PA protection which was apparently activated but the losses still being far above what they should be (see 3 and 4).

Attached are a normal attack with my 90% protection not being activated for comparison (1), a normal attack with protection (2), and 2 attacks where the protection is active but not applied to my pezos (180 and 360 lost instead of 18 and 36) (3 and 4).

I should also mention that I did not remove my guardian at any point and that all of the def troops were mine, meaning the protection should have been applied on all troops, and that I did not change the number of troops defending my city either.

I would consider it a bug, but plarium tells us there can be no such bug, so I'll try my luck here and see if someone has an idea I haven't thought of...

https://prnt.sc/0Ao_NCvLplKo (1)

https://prnt.sc/lJEKB3KN_Wfk (2)

https://prnt.sc/ZE6YCtYjEOL3 (3)

https://prnt.sc/QeJ19sJ7Z0kF (4)

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26 лют. 2025, 18:0526.02.25
31.01.18
696

Hello. Sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately, I cannot open your screenshots. The agreement<assassines activation Chance>  is what the name means! it is a chance, meaning it pops  up randomly.  To its fullest, it has a 30% chance of being activated, and this 30%, is with every set of political attacks, meaning it might not be activated at all, or it might activated all the times. To have 0 losses, you have to have as many defences as your mamertines can protect, meaning 100% protection and NOT 90%. You should produce more mamertines, or send to Acropolis all the defences that your mamertines cannot protect, or else you will have losses.  The political attacks  focused on our unprotected units, and not on all of the units that are protected by our mamertines, so yes, the losses are always high if it is not 100% protected.  100% chance is only if your mamertines cover 100% all of your units, Of course, if you think it is a bug, please contact the Support here   . As a player to a player, I would advise you to have some offensive units out like swordsmen, or your heroes.  

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4 берез. 2025, 18:1404.03.25
27.04.23
8

Hello,

I'm aware I had 90% protection and not 100%, so I do expect the few losses that I usually have, but my problem is that at times, the losses are 10 times greater than they should be WHILE THE PROTECTION IS ACTIVE (I have a 100% chance of being 90% protected, and the icon that says the elysian ability is active shows everytime, as it should).

So there is no defense that isn't 90%-protected by my mamertines, hence this post.

It happened several more times since this post, with the losses being concentrated on one type of units or another, with no apparent reason : here is a normal attack with
90% protection (https://prnt.sc/DPeJxEZrRzLZ), (15 pezos lost, 9 mamertines, 18 phalanx) followed by 2 attacks where my protection was not applied to mamertines once (https://prnt.sc/pqNK1wWqqE6x) (15-94-18) and to phalanx the other time (15-9-176). 

(By the way, why do you advise me to keep off outside ?)

3 квіт. 2025, 10:4903.04.25
26 трав. 2025, 18:20(відредаговано)
31.01.18
696
feulebleu

Hello,

I'm aware I had 90% protection and not 100%, so I do expect the few losses that I usually have, but my problem is that at times, the losses are 10 times greater than they should be WHILE THE PROTECTION IS ACTIVE (I have a 100% chance of being 90% protected, and the icon that says the elysian ability is active shows everytime, as it should).

So there is no defense that isn't 90%-protected by my mamertines, hence this post.

It happened several more times since this post, with the losses being concentrated on one type of units or another, with no apparent reason : here is a normal attack with
90% protection (https://prnt.sc/DPeJxEZrRzLZ), (15 pezos lost, 9 mamertines, 18 phalanx) followed by 2 attacks where my protection was not applied to mamertines once (https://prnt.sc/pqNK1wWqqE6x) (15-94-18) and to phalanx the other time (15-9-176). 

(By the way, why do you advise me to keep off outside ?)

Hello Archon. I already explained to you what Chance means. Fully upgraded chance for mamertines, means that you have a 30% chance to activate the 90%. Only the 100% is full protection. Of course, your mamertines cover only your own units an not the reinforces of others who are stationed in your city. Plus, the 90% doesn't always cover the same units every time you receive political attacks. FEW offences out is a strategy from those who know the game. Why not test it? The game works in mysterious ways. Lets say, our heroes are enlisted as off units, but practically  have higher def stats than off🙂 and they do have a little secret as well, as if we have them out, they will protect our city as defensive units and will kill the offence units of the attacker, but the attacker won't get any point from killing our heroes. 10 years ago, we used to trap our city with tons of heroes from our teammates, so, at least you can have your heroes out.  

22 трав. 2025, 17:2622.05.25
27.04.23
8

I do understand how chance works ; by itself it can reach 30% but with my guardian, it reaches 100%, so I do expect it to be active for every attack, as happens.

I do know my mamertines cover only my troops, I'm the only one defending.

Why would the protection not 'spread' to all protected units though ? (considering I always keep a sufficient number of mamertines to cover them all of course) I don't think that's the problem at stake here, since it usually works just fine, with all units protected equally (if I lose 10 pezos out of 1000 for instance, I also logically lose 50 cav out of 5000)

Do you think it's normal that I lose 10 times more one minute after a previous attack when no parameter was changed at all ?

As for the heroes trick, okay but I don't have many heroes, and I don't think that's a significant move unless you gather LOTS of them ; and swordsmen are entirely off units...

26 трав. 2025, 08:3626.05.25
09.12.17
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feulebleu

I do understand how chance works ; by itself it can reach 30% but with my guardian, it reaches 100%, so I do expect it to be active for every attack, as happens.

I do know my mamertines cover only my troops, I'm the only one defending.

Why would the protection not 'spread' to all protected units though ? (considering I always keep a sufficient number of mamertines to cover them all of course) I don't think that's the problem at stake here, since it usually works just fine, with all units protected equally (if I lose 10 pezos out of 1000 for instance, I also logically lose 50 cav out of 5000)

Do you think it's normal that I lose 10 times more one minute after a previous attack when no parameter was changed at all ?

As for the heroes trick, okay but I don't have many heroes, and I don't think that's a significant move unless you gather LOTS of them ; and swordsmen are entirely off units...

Fuelebleu, when you click on "War council" , you see the set of numbers. 

"Bonus 90%" Under that, you have "chance". What is the %? To be fully protected, the chance should be 100%. For that, you need either to reduce the number of troops to be protected, or to add mamertines. 50,000 of those would be enough to protect a lot of troops, provided your agreement bonus is 30%.   

26 трав. 2025, 18:1926.05.25
31.01.18
696
feulebleu

I do understand how chance works ; by itself it can reach 30% but with my guardian, it reaches 100%, so I do expect it to be active for every attack, as happens.

I do know my mamertines cover only my troops, I'm the only one defending.

Why would the protection not 'spread' to all protected units though ? (considering I always keep a sufficient number of mamertines to cover them all of course) I don't think that's the problem at stake here, since it usually works just fine, with all units protected equally (if I lose 10 pezos out of 1000 for instance, I also logically lose 50 cav out of 5000)

Do you think it's normal that I lose 10 times more one minute after a previous attack when no parameter was changed at all ?

As for the heroes trick, okay but I don't have many heroes, and I don't think that's a significant move unless you gather LOTS of them ; and swordsmen are entirely off units...

Hello again.  Our Strategist  guardian's skills increase the 30% activation chance.  It doesn't mean that our Strategist can give us a  fully 100% protection chance on our mamertines, and the boosts  depends on its level,  the enlightenment, and the stones we applied.  If we didn't apply all the stones, the Strategists  guardian  can increase the chance only for the units  that  have stones.  Maybe you have to reduce your defences to have a 100% protection chance, and 100 % bonus, as in my screenshot, or to produce more mamertines,  plus to level up your guardian. Let's say, my mamertines and my strategist can fully protect x number of my  defences. If I recall out of my Acropolis all of my defences, the political attacks will kill some of my defences too. As the chance will be reduced because the balance between mamertines and defences has been changed. Of course, for  official answers, please contact the Support here

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1 лип. 2025, 22:0401.07.25
27.04.23
8
Gerhard

Fuelebleu, when you click on "War council" , you see the set of numbers. 

"Bonus 90%" Under that, you have "chance". What is the %? To be fully protected, the chance should be 100%. For that, you need either to reduce the number of troops to be protected, or to add mamertines. 50,000 of those would be enough to protect a lot of troops, provided your agreement bonus is 30%.   

Thank you Gerhard, but I do know that very well, I obviously keep only a slight portion of my def out so that this percentage is 100%, hence my not understanding...

And Katerina, I know very well the dynamics of guardians (you can find me decently placed in the rankings), mine is very strong and as stated, I obviously keep only a fraction of my def out for the ability to work fine... which it doesn't.

It would help you if you had lightshot though :)

I've had more instances of this bug happening lately :

https://prnt.sc/cVmU8cwG92KM (the pezos losses are normal, the bug is only on mamertines here where the protection wasn't active so my losses where 10 times higher than they should have been)

https://prnt.sc/vMR8F342aXJi (here, both pezos and mamertines were hit 10 times too high, while the rest was fine)

Plarium is starting to owe me quite a few troops now, not to mention the points that my opponents got which were fare greater than they should have...

9 лип. 2025, 17:5609.07.25
31.01.18
696
feulebleu

Thank you Gerhard, but I do know that very well, I obviously keep only a slight portion of my def out so that this percentage is 100%, hence my not understanding...

And Katerina, I know very well the dynamics of guardians (you can find me decently placed in the rankings), mine is very strong and as stated, I obviously keep only a fraction of my def out for the ability to work fine... which it doesn't.

It would help you if you had lightshot though :)

I've had more instances of this bug happening lately :

https://prnt.sc/cVmU8cwG92KM (the pezos losses are normal, the bug is only on mamertines here where the protection wasn't active so my losses where 10 times higher than they should have been)

https://prnt.sc/vMR8F342aXJi (here, both pezos and mamertines were hit 10 times too high, while the rest was fine)

Plarium is starting to owe me quite a few troops now, not to mention the points that my opponents got which were fare greater than they should have...

Hello.  Sorry for the late reply. I must admit that I'm getting a lot of political attacks, and never had a single loss. If you believe that it is a bug, then please submit a ticket to Plarium Support here