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Jun 23, 2016, 17:4006/23/16
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Commanders, the reward system on Locations has been updated!

Commanders, the reward system on Locations has been updated. Let us take a closer look at the essentials to crack that nut once and for all.


IMPORTANT: The following applies only to new Locations, i.e. the ones you have not engaged yet.


1. Why did we decide to update the system?

We have always received a lot of complains that Locations “don’t work” or “work badly” or that “the rewards have changed”. Some players feel that the way rewards are issued is unfair when they see other players’ screenshots of big rewards. One of the major problems is that some Commanders can lose their entire armies before they get a decent reward. This is especially true for new players that do not have enough expertise with Locations or more experienced players that engage higher level Locations where the intervals between good rewards are significantly longer compared to that on lower level ones. We have made a decision to adjust the reward algorithm so nobody finds themselves in such stressful situations.


2. What will happen to my current progress?

Nothing. Again, your current progress will not be affected in any way. None of your efforts were futile.


3. Why do I get smaller rewards when suffering big losses?

From now on, you will be receiving a reward each and every time you win. It is time to say “Goodbye” to Locations not yielding any rewards! The Syndicate’s scientists are convinced that every victory must be rewarded! Smaller rewards do NOT mean that your Units were lost for nothing: any victory may reveal that there was a huge army held captive at the Location you have just conquered!

While under the old system you would be left empty-handed, now you will receive a guaranteed smaller reward (we mean Units!). Additionally, if you win on 10 Locations, the cumulative reward will be slightly bigger than before.


4. How will smaller, more frequent rewards affect the regular reward algorithm?

You will need to win at slightly more Locations, Commanders!


5. Will there still be big rewards? Really big rewards?

Absolutely! Every victory at a Location is a chance to win a huge reward! The chance of getting it is now slightly lower, but the overall number of rewards remained the same. In other words, you will be receiving the same reward, but it will be split into more parts than before.


We would like to assure our players that we are being very cautious with this update. Our main goal is to not tamper with the existing balance in any way but to make the reward system even more convenient for our players.


It is important to bear in mind that every player is at their own individual stage on the way to getting the reward, and the benefits of the new system may not be apparent right away. It might take you some time to evaluate the new system and to figure out how it works. The algorithm is new, and adjusting your strategy to it will require certain effort. One thing we know for sure: it will be worth your while!


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Jun 24, 2016, 03:0706/24/16
Jun 24, 2016, 09:32(edited)
07/18/14
4
This is complete *.  I just killed 500K troops on a level 71 and got 64 mowhaks.  That is 75K back on 4.5 mil investment as that was my payoff mission.  * 
Jun 24, 2016, 03:2106/24/16
231990
I agree ,  damn "GREED" at it's best .
Jun 24, 2016, 09:3606/24/16
231990

Guys, I understand that you may feel confused about this new Update. However, that's what our players have asked for a long time. They've asked us to make Locations pay out each time you hit them. 

Now they do. But it doesn't mean that these small payouts are the only payouts you will ever receive. You will still get full payouts as soon as your Bank is filled enough. 

So now you have:

1) Mini-payouts to make sure you will always have some Units to throw into the fight.

2) Big payouts which you will receive as usual.

I don't see any negative point here. And you? 
Jun 24, 2016, 11:5206/24/16
231990
just took out a level 41 got nothing.
Jun 24, 2016, 19:0806/24/16
Jun 27, 2016, 13:51(edited)
231990

Hi Community Manager,


Very nice to point the finger to the players.


You stated the following :

"Guys, I understand that you may feel confused about this new Update. However, that's what our players have asked for a long time. They've asked us to make Locations pay out each time you hit them." 

Correct they asked for it, but they didn't ask to change the rest that was good. 

Also as marketing machine you changed the S&D payout but you launched several S&D tournements after each other the last week, so players will loose more and start to go to the black market or bank to buy .This is the wrong way to think.


Also stated:


So now you have:

1) Mini-payouts to make sure you will always have some Units to throw into the fight.

2) Big payouts which you will receive as usual.


 number 1 is understandable, but must be more realistic,  good move from Plarium but needs fine tuning.

number 2 : The question here is when, how and where? Talking in rhythms is unprofessional.

When you tell A you should also tell B.


My opinion is that you have made a serious marketing mistake on your success.

Do something else and make the game again attractive, be creative. 

Also why are they so differend € prices for the same US dollar for your special actions. 

You base your Euro prices on location and platform ??  Please use the correct exchange rate, for all Europe prices or platform or mention it at least that FB is more expensive.

regards


Creatos


Nobody can predict your big payout with 100% accuracy. Some players have mastered this art and they know a way to predict the next payout. However, they will also need to adapt to the current system. 

The rules to receive a big payout are still the same as they were before the update.


Jun 27, 2016, 17:4906/27/16
Jun 30, 2016, 07:27(edited)
231990

Part 1




Hi, i really know how to play ZHG, and i ve played it excessive,but i must say that the new System really dont works. I played 30 ZHG Missions between 60 and 100. Filled in 15 Mio Def and 4 Mio Off, and all Mini Payouts i got. And till now i didnt get anything what we would call big Payout. Nothing !!!


Payouts depend on your previous payouts, current losses, Location level. I know some players who have invested much more before they got a big win. So don't give up.


Part  2


Now i must add the End of the Story after i ve played another two Missions i obtained  1250 Thunder and 6500 Firedrakes from a Level 104 Mission.

plus 75k Fuel 75k Ammo and 50k Rats.


I understood the Problems from this System now.


No Problem to fill in the Mini Payouts directly while playing. The bigger Prob is that you got almost every Mission a Ress Payout too. I bought Units for the Ress and boosted the Construction that i could take the Ress directly again in this Run.


Im sure would i have chosen the next higher Level that i had it was a 109 and a 118 either 109 or 118 i would have had a biger Payout.


But that was the problem too and Part of the ZHG Play Strategy to get the Payout exactly in the riight Level height.


I alologize for my frustrated Way of writing here, but i  like the Justice and im honestly enough that i ve added this additional Experience for all.


THX and see you on the Battlefield    :-))






Part 3



After trying out further Rounds of ZHG i must say that the new System is much better than bevor. The best of it is to see the rest of ZHG Troops from injured Missions better than ever bevor !


And the Payouts are right i had 10k maulers from LVL 97 and 15k Firedrakes from a Lvl 118 . I am really satisfied with it !


Greez


I'm really glad that you're enjoying the new system! 

Jun 30, 2016, 07:3106/30/16
Jun 30, 2016, 07:48(edited)
231990

JAFOSTE said:


This game is not only about new players and i think Plarium need to hear more the guys that play this game 1,2 years and more.

Those players know what is best to improve the game not the new players sorry but its true.

What im saying is that when Plarium want to make BIG CHANGES IN THE GAME put them to a vote and send a in game messege plz.

This will help every one. And no i dont like the changes.


Cheers

Hi, Jafoste. We do listen to our players. You can check our "Suggestions and feedback" thread to make sure of it. 

As for the recent changes on Locations, it's not a change which should be discussed. Such changes are performed for a reason.

I understand that it's hard to accept any changes. Especially if they are related to Locations. You have probably mastered them after a long time and after putting so many efforts into them.

Let me clarify some points for you:

1. S&D banking system still works as it did before the Update.

2. Small payouts won't replace big payouts, they come as an addition.

3. Small payouts are still payouts, so they are somehow connected to your Bank.

4. The size of a possible payout wasn't changed.

5. The strength of S&D was not changed.

6. We will not change the system back.

7. I have passed your feedback to our developers.

8. If you have any questions or need some clarifications, please ask.

9. If you didn't receive a single Unit from a S&D, there are two reasons:

a) You didn't have any losses on it.

b) You raided this S&D before the Update.

If you have any other questions, please ask.

Jul 3, 2016, 01:3307/03/16
07/01/15
1

I have 71 locations on my radar, all of which I have raided at least once to assess strength - how do I know which locations are from before the update?

When there is a big payout, does it still reset the bank?

Aug 26, 2016, 04:0408/26/16
Aug 26, 2016, 04:12(edited)
231990

5. Will there still be big rewards? Really big rewards?

Just wondering if someone could define what "small" and "huge" payouts are? Also how big a payout is big enough to reset the bank?
Aug 26, 2016, 09:2408/26/16
231990
wmbanse said:


5. Will there still be big rewards? Really big rewards?

Just wondering if someone could define what "small" and "huge" payouts are? Also how big a payout is big enough to reset the bank?
I think it's a personal feeling. If you have always received 5k Units, and next time you receive 8k, it's huge. And if you receive 3k, it's small. I guess some experienced players even have some notes with approximately payouts for each level of Locations. Maybe they could share their knowledge here.
Aug 16, 2017, 04:3108/16/17
231990
Return to old system@
Aug 16, 2017, 09:5208/16/17
231990
dan.booth79 said:

Return to old system@
Unfortunately, no changes are planned.
Oct 30, 2017, 20:5210/30/17
02/29/16
2640

timothy said:


I've been playing this game for 3 years so I am not a newbie.  The last several days the rewards on locations have changed for the worse.  In go up to level 80 daily and until a few days ago I would get 2 decent rewards but that changed then.  now I am lucky to even get a single good reward while my losses have increased considerably. I am about to stop doing the locations after trying it one more day.  PIf it continues then I won't be doing them again and IP will suggest to my friends that they not do them anymore either.  They have also noticed this change as well so I know I am not alone in this.

Hello, Sir!

Unfortunately, I can say you nothing new. The last change to S/Ds was implemented in June 2016. During the last year, we didn't touch this mechanics at all. 
Dec 10, 2017, 09:4612/10/17
01/17/15
390
dont use units you cant aford to lose in SnD and the rewards will always be for the better
Oct 28, 2017, 05:0010/28/17
Oct 28, 2017, 05:06(edited)
231990
I've been playing this game for 3 years so I am not a newbie.  The last several days the rewards on locations have changed for the worse.  In go up to level 80 daily and until a few days ago I would get 2 decent rewards but that changed then.  now I am lucky to even get a single good reward while my losses have increased considerably. I am about to stop doing the locations after trying it one more day.  PIf it continues then I won't be doing them again and IP will suggest to my friends that they not do them anymore either.  They have also noticed this change as well so I know I am not alone in this.
Oct 28, 2017, 04:5910/28/17
231990
Kallisi said:

Commanders we only have to figure out  new strategy of going about it keep testing them and figure out what works best for you.

Aug 18, 2016, 15:3008/18/16
01/17/15
218

Dipende dal punto di vista.

 Ho MOLTI Dubbi ma ripongo al Fiducia Sulla Parola di Plarium  su Missioni ZHG.


Jul 3, 2016, 19:2007/03/16
05/25/14
64
use only soldiers and sappers for ZHG Missions might take a hell off a longer time  but  you don't lose either too many big units Thunderheads are the best offence to use to pay back the bank fast and firedrakes for Defence if you want to pay the bank back in a fast way... for me I use soldiers and sappers
Jul 3, 2016, 07:5007/03/16
06/27/14
33

try this  NEVER KILL ANY MISSIONS AND THE BANK SYSTEM FROM OLD WILL STILL STAND

you will get no payouts big or small til your bank is paid then claim on your target mission OR put up shut up and learn the new system which gives you a few troops which you can throw back in f you want

TRY , LEARN TAKE ADVANTAGE