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18 берез. 2021, 12:2818.03.21
08.03.21
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To Summon or Not to Summon

New player here. Level 39atm. Spend a few bucks and opened 1 sacred, some void en some ancient shards. But not much luck.

My composition is 50 Kael, 50 Spirithost, 50 Ursine Ironhide and 50 Shaman. Did not get or pulled and rare or legendary and have not been blessed with S rank or A rank Rares

So I have been saving up some shards since I see a lot beginners guide say that you should wait for the Double chance event. I just missed that since I have not played from the start of March but iam wondering now if I should wait for the next one (dont know when that is) or use my Shards to hopefully get something usefull that helps me progress better.


Have 14 ancients shards, 1 void shard and 1 sacred shard atm. What do you guys think. Should I use them and hopefully get something usefull or wait for X period of time and struggle some more

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18 берез. 2021, 13:5518.03.21
19.12.19
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12.3 brutal

18 берез. 2021, 16:2718.03.21
10.11.20
235
Skadi

Your strategy to make one lvl 60 first is definetly right. Make your Kael lvl 60, he can farm campaigne stage 12.3 solo and lvl up 3 useless champs as "food" that way.

Armiger is a specialist for some dungeons, but that is stuff for later. 

Do NOT invest in trash champs like Shieldguard. There are videos on youtube with Shieldguard browsing throug dungeon waves in a crazy way - but that is just because he wears incredible gear. Any champ with an AoE-Attack can work with perfect 6* gear. Shieldguards def at lvl 60 is 1024, the damagemultiplier of his AoE attack is 3.4 x def. It's easy math that your Kael with 1200 atk and a damagemultiplier of 4.65 x atk does just much more damage. There is absolutely no reason to build a Shieldguard.

That  is  simply  not  true,  sheildguard  can  be  very  effective  as  his  damage  scales  off  defense.  Easy  to  build  and  easy  to  book  there  is  every  reason  to  build  one.  

Armiger  is  a  specialist  in  some  dungeons....  well  lets  see....  enemy  max  hp  skill  and  turn  meter  reduction....  so

Ice  Golem  -  Check

Fire  knight  -  Check

Spider -  Check

Doom  Tower  -  Check

hmmm...  so  he's  actually  viable  in  all  but  one  dungeon  then?  

21 берез. 2021, 14:0721.03.21
08.03.21
79
Skadi

Why is he in your vault? Occult Brawler is one of the best champs vs. CB in the whole game. The amount of poison he brings out is enormous. You are a lucky guy that you pulled a champ like this. He alone will do more damage than the other 4 members of your CB team together.

Iam not at the stage iam able to farm/level/gear specialist units. That is why he is banked now. I know he can be good at specific fights but iam not there yet where iam aiming for specific units with specific talents to clear specific content.

Got a l60 Kael now and got a warmaiden l50 and geared so that with my spirithost is doing way better overall and specifically in Arena so that is nice. Also got a Diabolist that iam gearing now to replace my Ursine/Shaman.

Guess Iam looking for a nice healer. Have a warpriest and Runic Warder but they dont really seem spectaculair yet :)

21 берез. 2021, 14:1321.03.21
08.03.21
79
Player J

Your Goals are very close to the ones I recommend to every beginner.

I only have 4 adjustments to your list.


1 - Get l60 with Kael

2 - Clear Campaign till you reach Nightmare Mode - It gets very tough - Don't Stress Completing it

3 - Farm at 12.3 Brutal with Kael - You want Kael to Solo the fight with 3 food hero's leeching XP

4 - Get 4 l60 that can do good in Clan Boss

5 - Get 2 l60 that can do good in Dungeons - You can borrow heroes you already built from CB team

6 - Get 2 l60 that can do good in Arena - 30 Day L.R (High Khatun) often will join the team


Yeah - This is how I would list it out.

Tnx for the tips

1 - Covered

2 - Done

3 - will do after all the events. I can use the energy for other stuff now better then the overpriced nightmare campaign I feel like (I might be wrong ofc)

4 - Yeah this is what Iam working on now. Think Ill go for Spirit Host or Warmaiden first though. They dont really shine in Clan Boss but that somehow seems not that high priority for me now since my clan is kinda Meh. Should really look for a nice and more active clan.

5 - Does this not come naturally though for the most part. When I have 4 l60 I feel like I would be able to push much farter allready. I guess then I would go for specific champions with certain skills (like Occult Brawler)

6 - When I level Warmaiden and Spirithost I got that Covered I feel like for now (Aim is Silver 1 atm to progress in my Missions). Then the final spot probably will be High Khatun or Diabolist since iam building a speed nuke team. And probably farming 6-7 on Brutal for good speed gear.

21 берез. 2021, 14:2721.03.21
14.04.20
1343
Gondorath

Iam not at the stage iam able to farm/level/gear specialist units. That is why he is banked now. I know he can be good at specific fights but iam not there yet where iam aiming for specific units with specific talents to clear specific content.

Got a l60 Kael now and got a warmaiden l50 and geared so that with my spirithost is doing way better overall and specifically in Arena so that is nice. Also got a Diabolist that iam gearing now to replace my Ursine/Shaman.

Guess Iam looking for a nice healer. Have a warpriest and Runic Warder but they dont really seem spectaculair yet :)

I wouldn't be so quick to discard your Ursine. Having damage scaling off defense is a huge asset for any champion, because it means you can completely ignore their attack stat and push everything into defense, which will help them both defensively and offensively. Besides, you'll need AOE decrease attack in dungeons, which he can do, plus he decreases turn meter a bit which is always nice as well. He's absolutely an option for your next level 60 - better as a long term choice than Warmaiden, Spirithost, Diabolist who are all important for you now but will get replaced quickly, so people usually don't take them beyond level 50 unless they really don't have any better options. 

And CB should always be a pretty high priority, because it's daily rewards which don't cost you any energy - change clans if necessary, indeed. 

18 берез. 2021, 12:5318.03.21
10.11.20
235

Also,  buy  all  the  mystery  shards  from  the  market  and  pull  them,  you  will  see  an  armiger  in  there, he  does  well  at  5  star  but  you  will  six  star  him  eventually.  In  fact  also  Shieldguard  is  another  great  ine  to  level.  

26 берез. 2021, 19:2726.03.21
26 берез. 2021, 19:27(відредаговано)
231033

Other then skullcrown the epics avalible in the event are trash, there are some good legos but 6% chance to get one sucks donkey b@lls and don't get me started with the whole 0.5% chance game, they might as well just say "no you cant have one" and be done.

18 берез. 2021, 12:5018.03.21
18 берез. 2021, 12:50(відредаговано)
10.11.20
235

I  personally  would  save  them  and  wait  until  you  have  quite  few  more.  Yes  you  may  get  lucky  but  the  odds  strongly  favor  you  not  getting  anything  A  or  S  tier.  If  you  can  wait  for  another  month  or  so,  build  up  a  good  amount  of  shards  and  pull  them  all  during  a  champion  chase  event  on  a  2x.  You  will  stand  a  chance  of  getting  some  good  rewards  from  the  tournament.  Concentrate  on  levelling  up  Kael,  if  you  must  spent  the  monthly  pack  is  decent  value  and  only  buy  energy  outside  of  that  (  unless  you  want  more  shards  of  course  )  Run  the  highest  level  dragon  dungeon  you  can.  Save  all  your  epic  and  legendary  books,  run  potions  keeps,  build  up  a  huge  stock  of  all  consumables  so  you  can  level  and  gear  a  decent  champ  or  two  when  you  get  them.  

To  give  you  an  idea,  when  i  was  paying  i  pulled  10  sacreds,  12  voids,  59  ancients  and  not  one  legendary  and  only  a  few  usable  epics. Save  all  your  gems,  dont  waste  gems  on  masteries!   

26 берез. 2021, 18:5726.03.21
26 берез. 2021, 19:14(відредаговано)
08.03.21
79

Well, I guess here we go again :D Is it worth using Ancient (24), Void (3) or Sacred (1) on the coming event. You dont have double the odds but when you do pull an epic/legendary you have a 10x chance on whats seems pretty good champions in general.

Not really in dire need since iam leveling my current team to 4x 60 but some can be replaced (Kael, Spirithost, Warmaiden, Diabolist). This will be my arena team but iam stuck at certain levels op dungeons now and the 3th boss on doomtower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhiRXO0qKRw&t=24s&ab_channel=HellHades Hellhades is not impressed it seems so

21 берез. 2021, 17:1521.03.21
21 берез. 2021, 18:37(відредаговано)
20.01.21
18

Honestly, I sometimes throw into the pyre some rare shards outside of Double Rate weekends. Mostly, because I need points for Events & Tourneys. Which in retrospective is stupid when you don't get anything good. But I tend to have a lucky roll (Double Natural 20s guy here), so I tend to get stuff I need to fix later because my dumb arse gave them the wrong gear.

Something I recommend to you is to not use the free Mastery reset until you're pretty sure about the gear setup. I think I'm going with the bloodsucking gear on Sinesha, and try to combo the Half-HP DMG boost and  HP drain masteries. But probably I'll have to get her new shoes, and possibly, a new college degree.

Still, if you really wanna go "Free-2-Play", farming the Campaing for fodder champs and XP is your must.

It took me around a month, but I finally saved enough prize turkeys, and one single campaign reward rare, manually leveled up to lv.50 to 6-star my MVP.

Man, I hesitated when selecting which Lv.50 should get the upgrade, but I felt all those grinding hours were worth once the MVP got 50K HP.

20 берез. 2021, 23:2920.03.21
13.05.19
2326
Gondorath

My goals are basically

- get 60 with Kael

- Clear campaign as much as possible

- Farm at 12.3 (I cannot do that yet with 4 l50 in my OP)

- Get 4 l60 that can do good in Dungeons

- Get 4 l60 that can do good in Arena (and hopefully get Silver 1 since arena now is crazy with Legendaries and epics in bronze :D) and continue the Quest chain


ps trying to build a nuke team in Arena so trying to farm warmaiden now and hopefully find another usefull AOE nuker or SPD champ that can help next to Keal and Spirithost


I do have a 3star l30 Soulbound Bowyer in my vault. Checked https://ayumilove.net/raid-shadow-legends-list-of-champions-by-ranking/ and found it was an A tier so saved it. Didnt look that strong to me but maybe as a nice glass canon. Will go watch some videos on her.

The main issue with those tutorials and video's imo is that they are completely decked with 6star gear and tier 6 and fully ascended etc. But that is not the stage iam at now and that might make quite a huge different if a hero is good or bad :D

Your Goals are very close to the ones I recommend to every beginner.

I only have 4 adjustments to your list.


1 - Get l60 with Kael

2 - Clear Campaign till you reach Nightmare Mode - It gets very tough - Don't Stress Completing it

3 - Farm at 12.3 Brutal with Kael - You want Kael to Solo the fight with 3 food hero's leeching XP

4 - Get 4 l60 that can do good in Clan Boss

5 - Get 2 l60 that can do good in Dungeons - You can borrow heroes you already built from CB team

6 - Get 2 l60 that can do good in Arena - 30 Day L.R (High Khatun) often will join the team


Yeah - This is how I would list it out.

20 берез. 2021, 16:4020.03.21
15.10.20
2041
Gondorath

I used my Sacred Shard and got an Occult Brawler. So he is in the vault for now.

Are there going to be events for Void and Ancient shards soon?

Why is he in your vault? Occult Brawler is one of the best champs vs. CB in the whole game. The amount of poison he brings out is enormous. You are a lucky guy that you pulled a champ like this. He alone will do more damage than the other 4 members of your CB team together.

20 берез. 2021, 11:3920.03.21
10.11.20
235

The  void,  sacred  and  ancient  events  are  on  a  fairly  regular  cycle.  Though  i  dont  know  what  it  is  you  can  get  it  from  google.  

20 берез. 2021, 11:2520.03.21
10.11.20
235
Gondorath

I used my Sacred Shard and got an Occult Brawler. So he is in the vault for now.

Are there going to be events for Void and Ancient shards soon?

Disappointing  isn't  it.  That's  why  i  suggested  saving  your  shards  until  you  have  a  good  bunch  of  them,  you  have  all  the  champs  you  need  to  carry  on  progressing  and  you  haven't  levelled  them  up  yet,  so  really  you  dont  beed  ore  champs.  You  need your  champs higher  level  and  better  gear.  Save  your  shards  from  now  on  and  wait  until  you  have  enough  to  get  you  some  good  rewards  from  either  a  summon  rush  or  a  champion  chase.  

In  the  meantime  farm  gear  from  dungeons  and  during  a  artifact  enhancement  event  level  it  all  to  8,  and  you  will  probably  get  all  the  rewards.  Sell  off  the  gear  you  don't  need  and  it  will  have  cost  you  very  little  silver.

With  regards  to  occult  brawler,  he  will  be  a  big  help  in  clan  boss  and  possible  dragon  but  he  is  a  only  usful  in  specific  areas.  Build  him  out  though  a  bit  at  a  time.  

20 берез. 2021, 11:0320.03.21
08.03.21
79

I used my Sacred Shard and got an Occult Brawler. So he is in the vault for now.

Are there going to be events for Void and Ancient shards soon?

18 берез. 2021, 19:4018.03.21
10.11.20
235
Skadi

Armiger is definetly worth lvl 60, but I don't think a new player should invest in Armiger early on. New players don't even have the gear to make Armiger work, the turnmeter decrease from his A1 only occurs when the hit is critical. In addition to that, his A2, based on enemy hp, is not so usefull in early game. The damageoutput compared to normal attacks is rather low here. That changes in higher dungeon levels, where enemies have much higher hp. 

That is why I say Armiger is stuff for later.

I  just  took  a  level  50  Armiger  in  to  Dragon  stage  2  and  his  A2  did  the  same  damage  as  his  A1.  So  it's  not  a  big  nuke  but  still  totally  viable  in  the  early  game.

18 берез. 2021, 19:1818.03.21
15.10.20
2041
tsdpool

I  didnt  say  armiger  should  be  the  next  level  60  champ  i  said  they  he  is  worth  building.  

dungeon  content  is  not  for  later  it  is  for  right  now,  every  effort  should  be  made  to  farm  dungeons  at  the  highest  level  you  can  at  the  earliest  opportunity. 

Honestly  since  the  datamining  of  damage  multipliers  became  knowlege  people  are  obsessed  by  them.  in  the  warly  game  and  mid  game  too  champs  that  scale  off  defense  are  far  far  more  valuable  than  attack  champs.  Beating  campaign  whilst  trying  to  get  Kael  also  built  for  clan  boss  and  probably  arena  too  will  be  very  very  hard.  Building  a  cheap  to  build  shieldguard  will  help  with  campaign  farming and  also  help  progress  further  in  dungeons.  You  are  missing  the  point  totally,  he  doesnt  beed  insane  gear  at  lower  levels  stop  thinking  like  an  mid-end  game  player  and  start  thinking  like  a  new  player  and  you  will  give  better  advice.

Armiger is definetly worth lvl 60, but I don't think a new player should invest in Armiger early on. New players don't even have the gear to make Armiger work, the turnmeter decrease from his A1 only occurs when the hit is critical. In addition to that, his A2, based on enemy hp, is not so usefull in early game. The damageoutput compared to normal attacks is rather low here. That changes in higher dungeon levels, where enemies have much higher hp. 

That is why I say Armiger is stuff for later.

18 берез. 2021, 19:1218.03.21
10.11.20
235
Gondorath

My goals are basically

- get 60 with Kael

- Clear campaign as much as possible

- Farm at 12.3 (I cannot do that yet with 4 l50 in my OP)

- Get 4 l60 that can do good in Dungeons

- Get 4 l60 that can do good in Arena (and hopefully get Silver 1 since arena now is crazy with Legendaries and epics in bronze :D) and continue the Quest chain


ps trying to build a nuke team in Arena so trying to farm warmaiden now and hopefully find another usefull AOE nuker or SPD champ that can help next to Keal and Spirithost


I do have a 3star l30 Soulbound Bowyer in my vault. Checked https://ayumilove.net/raid-shadow-legends-list-of-champions-by-ranking/ and found it was an A tier so saved it. Didnt look that strong to me but maybe as a nice glass canon. Will go watch some videos on her.

The main issue with those tutorials and video's imo is that they are completely decked with 6star gear and tier 6 and fully ascended etc. But that is not the stage iam at now and that might make quite a huge different if a hero is good or bad :D

Farming  12:3  is  a  goal  for  the  future  and  you  will  be  able  to  do  it  once  you  have  a  level  60  Kael  and  a  few  50's  but  only  if  they  are  wearing  some  reasonably  good  pieces  of  gear,  that  is  why  you  also  need  to  start  tackling  the  dungeons.  You  will  get  better  gear  from  them,  dont  farm  gear  from  campaign  unless  you  really  really  beed  a  specific  piece.  You  will  be  told  to  focus  soley  on  getting  a  campaign  farmer  but  i  believe  the  most  efficient  approach  is  to  tackle  multiple  areas  of  the  game  as  soon  as  you  can. 

Kael  will  serve  you  well  right  up  until  late  game  but  he  will  need  support,  a  defensive  shieldguard  may  help  you  oit  there.  I'm  not  saying  take  him  to  60  but  maybe  to 50  to  tank  some  damage  and  give  kael  a  chance  to  work  in  the  later  campaign  levels.  

i  think  your  goals  are  good  but  dont  be  in  a  rush  to  6  star  every  new  champ  you  get.  There  are  many  that  can  function  just  fine  at  50.  

18 берез. 2021, 19:0618.03.21
18 берез. 2021, 19:07(відредаговано)
20.01.21
93

a few tipps to go:

once your Kael is 60 buy Masteries for him for 800 gem, its one of the best investments you can make

on day 30 you'll get "High Katun" as login prize, she'll be your arena speed leader unless you get something better from shards


Shaman overall is pretty bad and only "decent" at the beginning, do not level her beyond 50

18 берез. 2021, 18:5718.03.21
10.11.20
235
Skadi

You don't have to explain Armiger to me, I recommended him to players here in the forum very often and use a lvl 60 Armiger myself. 

But Armiger is NOT your next lvl 60 when you have actual ZERO lvl 60 champs - like the thread opener. Armiger is Dungeon stuff. He can't farm campaign, he is no champ for CB and not for Arena. Armiger is a champ that can be the sixth or seventh (or something like that) lvl 60. He is a specialist for dungeons, that is stuff for later.


The numbers I wrote about Shiledguard's damage compared to Kael ARE simpley true. Or do you have alternative facts on that?

I  didnt  say  armiger  should  be  the  next  level  60  champ  i  said  they  he  is  worth  building.  

dungeon  content  is  not  for  later  it  is  for  right  now,  every  effort  should  be  made  to  farm  dungeons  at  the  highest  level  you  can  at  the  earliest  opportunity. 

Honestly  since  the  datamining  of  damage  multipliers  became  knowlege  people  are  obsessed  by  them.  in  the  warly  game  and  mid  game  too  champs  that  scale  off  defense  are  far  far  more  valuable  than  attack  champs.  Beating  campaign  whilst  trying  to  get  Kael  also  built  for  clan  boss  and  probably  arena  too  will  be  very  very  hard.  Building  a  cheap  to  build  shieldguard  will  help  with  campaign  farming and  also  help  progress  further  in  dungeons.  You  are  missing  the  point  totally,  he  doesnt  beed  insane  gear  at  lower  levels  stop  thinking  like  an  mid-end  game  player  and  start  thinking  like  a  new  player  and  you  will  give  better  advice.