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Hard Faction Wars Stage Requirements - 'Don't Let Enemies Heal'

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4 листоп. 2026, 18:158 днів
13.05.21
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Hard Faction Wars Stage Requirements - 'Don't Let Enemies Heal'

I'm trying to figure out if the requirement to 3 star some of the hard faction war stages 'Don't Let Enemies Heal' is bugged or was delibrately put into the game where 100% heal reduction is useless.  

From my searches it appears to be intended.  If a champ has a passive or active skill that is used that triggers a heal you fail the requirement to 3 star the stage even if you have 100% heal reduction on the entire enemy team.   A 100% heal reduction should fill the requirement as the healing is 0 and therefore nothing but apparently it doesn't which is honestly horrible design.  Especially considering the counter is hard cc and/or block active/passive skills.  The problem with that is some of the waves contain champs like Supreme Galek who has a passive that when hard cc is used on him cleanses it, heals 50% (which instantly fails the challenge) and get an instant turn.  The other option requires rare debuffs (block active and block passive skills) that not every faction has access to on a consistent basis if at all.  The final option is straight up brute force nuking which sort of defeats the purpose of the challenge anyway.  This leads me to ask did anyone at Plarium actually play test this content?  

While I am on hard faction wars - the tainted mirror boss needs a serious nerf or rework.  The boss is perhaps the hardest boss in the game and is insanely overtuned.  Its skills need reworked.  The A3 aoe hp swap needs either removed and replace with another skill or reworked where it can be blocked by 100% heal reduction.  I would personally change the A3 and rework the boss.  The passive buff/debuff flip remains but is reduced to 20% chance and can be resisted.  The A3 directly converts your buffs to debuffs and it's debuffs to buffs and can't be resisted with only protected buffs/debuffs being uneffected.  The A2 buff strip remains as it is.  The boss still performs as per its name and requires very careful management of your buffs and debuffs and is still difficult but not the level of obnoxious it is now.

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
5 листоп. 2026, 12:277 днів
24.06.19
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Which faction are you having issues with Heal Reduction?  I used it against the Sup. Galek stages and it worked for me. 

Tainted Mirror boss is ridiculous yes.  Need either great RNG or everyone high Res.  Agreed needs a rework. 

5 листоп. 2026, 17:417 днів
5 листоп. 2026, 18:48(відредаговано)
31.01.20
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I actually find the Boss that does an AoE Attack every time you hit a Minion to be worse than the HP Swap Boss.

It helps to use Relic Gemstones that Destroy Max HP or Toons that Destroy Max Hp when fighting the Health Swap. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
6 листоп. 2026, 00:207 днів
24.06.19
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WileyMan

I actually find the Boss that does an AoE Attack every time you hit a Minion to be worse than the HP Swap Boss.

It helps to use Relic Gemstones that Destroy Max HP or Toons that Destroy Max Hp when fighting the Health Swap. 

That one is brutal too.  Especially higher levels where the boss hits like a freight train. 

6 листоп. 2026, 17:036 днів
13.05.21
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ShortOnSkillz

Which faction are you having issues with Heal Reduction?  I used it against the Sup. Galek stages and it worked for me. 

Tainted Mirror boss is ridiculous yes.  Need either great RNG or everyone high Res.  Agreed needs a rework. 

Undead faction wars.  Can't remember the exact stage but it is the one that requires don't let enemies heal in order to 3 star it.  I have Suzerain Katonn who has 100% heal reduction on his a3.  When ever supreme galek has 100% heal reduction and is hit with hard cc his passive triggers, fails the 3 star challenge despite the 100% heal reduction.  

The wave before it also has a champ (skinwalkers I think) has a champ that while also under 100 heal reduction also heals with his A1 (locked out by my fabian) that also causes the challenge to fail.

From your response it's not intended but according to google's AI search mode it is intended and given that I can only judge it based on my experience it appears that google's AI mode is right.  In which case it is horrible design.

6 листоп. 2026, 17:116 днів
13.05.21
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WileyMan

I actually find the Boss that does an AoE Attack every time you hit a Minion to be worse than the HP Swap Boss.

It helps to use Relic Gemstones that Destroy Max HP or Toons that Destroy Max Hp when fighting the Health Swap. 

That one I can deal with by using champs that can debuff without hitting and using single target nukers.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
6 листоп. 2026, 23:436 днів
24.06.19
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MarsMuncher84

Undead faction wars.  Can't remember the exact stage but it is the one that requires don't let enemies heal in order to 3 star it.  I have Suzerain Katonn who has 100% heal reduction on his a3.  When ever supreme galek has 100% heal reduction and is hit with hard cc his passive triggers, fails the 3 star challenge despite the 100% heal reduction.  

The wave before it also has a champ (skinwalkers I think) has a champ that while also under 100 heal reduction also heals with his A1 (locked out by my fabian) that also causes the challenge to fail.

From your response it's not intended but according to google's AI search mode it is intended and given that I can only judge it based on my experience it appears that google's AI mode is right.  In which case it is horrible design.

Ill have to test it next time the rotation comes up.  Im 100% sure I used Heal Reduction but cant remember the exact mechanics of the team.  If its not working now its definitely a bug. 

11 листоп. 2026, 19:21Вчора
13.05.21
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ShortOnSkillz

Ill have to test it next time the rotation comes up.  Im 100% sure I used Heal Reduction but cant remember the exact mechanics of the team.  If its not working now its definitely a bug. 

This is also an issue in dark elves stage 20.  It is quite frankly ridiculous that this wasn't play tested.  Plarium couldn't design a consistent game if their lives depended on it.

11 листоп. 2026, 22:33Вчора
16.12.21
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Yeah, I haven;t managed to 3* DE 20 yet, though a couple of my clustermates have

You essentially have to kill everyone before they take a turn AND do it without landing any cc on supreme galek

Pretty sure the handful of people in my cluster who have 3*d it all have Aphidus and put him in about 400+ c dam gear

12 листоп. 2026, 04:3012 годин
31.01.20
2948

I haven't messed aorund with some oe the PITA Trials.  Can't say if I have DE 20 done until it opens again. I have 61 stars there and just farm L21 on auto for glyphs & Mats.  I do have 63 stars on Undead so I must've gotten that one done okay.   

ShortOnSkillzModerator
12 листоп. 2026, 15:221 годину
24.06.19
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MooredRat

Yeah, I haven;t managed to 3* DE 20 yet, though a couple of my clustermates have

You essentially have to kill everyone before they take a turn AND do it without landing any cc on supreme galek

Pretty sure the handful of people in my cluster who have 3*d it all have Aphidus and put him in about 400+ c dam gear

Gotten Polara on 2 accounts so I know its all entirely doable.  But like I said ill have to go test again cuz ill be damned if I can remember exactly what I did.