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Jun 1, 2025, 01:3506/01/25
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Bommal

I just read HH about Bommal.  I am missing 1-2 champs from every team he suggests.  I could spend a month building champs that fail.  

Or I can ask for ideas.  

Is the Gnish or a solo team actually viable?


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Jun 1, 2025, 01:5906/01/25
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Almost everyone in my cluster uses Lady Anabelle to solo (or add on monkey to speed it up)

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jun 1, 2025, 16:5806/01/25
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MooredRat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ABkBpNay8g

Ash vid for Lady Ana solo build



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Gear and stats he uses; mine has a little less health and a ltitle more speed, but fairly close.


You want 80k+ hp, in regen & immortal

Damage, res, acc don't matter. Pretty much all of her damage will come from warmaster, Lock her down to a1 only.

I use Deliana in the lead on my team for her speed aura, and Iron Brago for his passive def buff. They'll both die quickly when they reach the boss. I also have gnishak and monkey rounding out the team to clear the first 2 waves. Monkey will keep popping back up during the fight to get in 1 hit, then die, then repeat.

Those stats are wildly unremarkable in today's Raid too.

Jun 1, 2025, 18:0706/01/25
Jun 2, 2025, 03:18(edited)
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ClosedPoly

I have Gnish and Annabelle.  Which is the best option for a team that can auto run?  

It depends on if you care about run time.

Most solo builds take quite bit of time to wear the boss down, which is fine if you just want to kill him once, but less fine if you want to farm his forge materials.

The beauty of the Gnishak Bommal team is that it is fast (90 seconds per run), and likely uses toons you already use elsewhere. In my team above, all of those toons were bult for other content, and the only thing I needed to do when I first started running that comp was switch out a few pieces of gear on Gnishak to bump up his Attack for bigger bombs.     

  

Jun 1, 2025, 18:1106/01/25
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MooredRat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ABkBpNay8g

Ash vid for Lady Ana solo build



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Gear and stats he uses; mine has a little less health and a ltitle more speed, but fairly close.


You want 80k+ hp, in regen & immortal

Damage, res, acc don't matter. Pretty much all of her damage will come from warmaster, Lock her down to a1 only.

I use Deliana in the lead on my team for her speed aura, and Iron Brago for his passive def buff. They'll both die quickly when they reach the boss. I also have gnishak and monkey rounding out the team to clear the first 2 waves. Monkey will keep popping back up during the fight to get in 1 hit, then die, then repeat.

When I ran the Samar solo team, I had a dupe copy of Brago levelled to 50 and wearing Def% gear all along the bottom row.  He was there only to grant an extra 500 Def to Samar.

Also, Deliana has an HP Aura, not a speed Aura, but as long as you are fast enough, an HP Aura in Bommal is probably more important anyway.


Jun 1, 2025, 22:1706/01/25
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WileyMan

It depends on if you care about run time.

Most solo builds take quite bit of time to wear the boss down, which is fine if you just want to kill him once, but less fine if you want to farm his forge materials.

The beauty of the Gnishak Bommal team is that it is fast (90 seconds per run), and likely uses toons you already use elsewhere. In my team above, all of those toons were bult for other content, and the only thing I needed to do when I first started running that comp was switch out a few pieces of gear on Gnishak to bump up his Attack for bigger bombs.     

  

What is your run time with Anna?

I can build Gnish to about 7k Def plus his Def aura.  And I dont have great Ally Protect champs that will do much damage.  I would rather have the Gnish team for farming if possible.  

Jun 1, 2025, 22:4906/01/25
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I probably should change my 3x vogoth team with no dps at some point...

Jun 2, 2025, 01:1706/02/25
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WileyMan

When I ran the Samar solo team, I had a dupe copy of Brago levelled to 50 and wearing Def% gear all along the bottom row.  He was there only to grant an extra 500 Def to Samar.

Also, Deliana has an HP Aura, not a speed Aura, but as long as you are fast enough, an HP Aura in Bommal is probably more important anyway.


Total derp on my part. I *meant* hp aura.

Jun 2, 2025, 01:1906/02/25
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Trips

I probably should change my 3x vogoth team with no dps at some point...

Why not 5x vogoth?

Jun 2, 2025, 03:2406/02/25
Jun 11, 2025, 16:16(edited)
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ClosedPoly

What is your run time with Anna?

I can build Gnish to about 7k Def plus his Def aura.  And I dont have great Ally Protect champs that will do much damage.  I would rather have the Gnish team for farming if possible.  

I have never even built a Lady Annabelle.

@MooredRat  Could answer that for you.  

I used to solo Bommal with a Samar Gemcursed.  I don't remember how long, but long enough that I'd set the multibattles on auto and go do something else.  Sometimes, I'd let the multibattles run when I went to bed....    

Now that we have Background Multibattles, you could at least do that after you beat him the first time.  

Jun 2, 2025, 03:3806/02/25
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ClosedPoly

What is your run time with Anna?

I can build Gnish to about 7k Def plus his Def aura.  And I dont have great Ally Protect champs that will do much damage.  I would rather have the Gnish team for farming if possible.  

I assume you mean 7K Attack on Gnishak? That should be plenty. Mine only has 6K Attack.  All you need from there is three Ally Attackers that are faster than Bommal and you will load his Debuff Bar with Bombs straight away....even better if you can lead off with an Inc Attack Buff or an Inc Attack Buff with an Inc Acc Buff.

If you have Padraig, he does the Inc Attack for you passively.  Otherwise, it is common to see people use Arbiter because she lessens the need for speed on the Ally Attackers and gives the Inc Attack.  Another good lead is Yoshi since he has the Speed Aura and gives both buffs....and of course, Arbais would be best in class for this comp if you have her.

Jun 2, 2025, 06:0206/02/25
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WileyMan

I assume you mean 7K Attack on Gnishak? That should be plenty. Mine only has 6K Attack.  All you need from there is three Ally Attackers that are faster than Bommal and you will load his Debuff Bar with Bombs straight away....even better if you can lead off with an Inc Attack Buff or an Inc Attack Buff with an Inc Acc Buff.

If you have Padraig, he does the Inc Attack for you passively.  Otherwise, it is common to see people use Arbiter because she lessens the need for speed on the Ally Attackers and gives the Inc Attack.  Another good lead is Yoshi since he has the Speed Aura and gives both buffs....and of course, Arbais would be best in class for this comp if you have her.

I meant 7k Atk for Gnish.  My brain starts sorting all the team options and my typos increase exponentially.  

I think I will go with Annablle.  I have Padraig, Arbiter and Monkey.  I am missing one of the champs on his team but I likely have an adequat substitute in the vault.  

Jun 2, 2025, 06:1106/02/25
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WileyMan

That isn't too bad for a solo run, and probably faster than my old Samar solo team, but I don't remember.

There was a lot less to do in the game 3 yrs ago, so it wasn't a big deal to throw the Bommal team on auto and check back in an hour.

I imagine the WuKong helps quite a bit with the constant revive attacks.     

Before I got Red lady and I used Little Conehead to solo, I think my best time was about 35 minutes

Jun 2, 2025, 07:5406/02/25
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WileyMan

I have been running a Gnishak Ally Attack comp for the past couple of years. Most of my clan runs some version of this team. I imagine you could even run it with 2 or 3 epic ally attackers. The key is getting Gnishak's Bombs out there fast.   

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I dont have the right mix of Regen and Immortal gear for Lady Annabelle.  

What is the Speed and Acc on your Gnish?

I think I can use Gnish with 6k Attack and 25% inc Attack aura

Gnut 25% weaken, 50% inc attack.  

Padraig ally attack

Kreela ally attack with 50% inc attack

Thor to clear wave

I want to build the team to defeat Bomma at his highest stage.  I think that is Hard 90 with 250 speed and 330 resistance.  I will need 400 Acc.  



Jun 2, 2025, 08:4206/02/25
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ClosedPoly

I dont have the right mix of Regen and Immortal gear for Lady Annabelle.  

What is the Speed and Acc on your Gnish?

I think I can use Gnish with 6k Attack and 25% inc Attack aura

Gnut 25% weaken, 50% inc attack.  

Padraig ally attack

Kreela ally attack with 50% inc attack

Thor to clear wave

I want to build the team to defeat Bomma at his highest stage.  I think that is Hard 90 with 250 speed and 330 resistance.  I will need 400 Acc.  




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Stages Tool says 355 acc is enough.

I don't entirely understand how the scaling works, but I pretty much always go by what Stages Tool tells me.

Jun 2, 2025, 17:3706/02/25
Jun 11, 2025, 16:19(edited)
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My Gnishak has 420 Acc, 6k Atk & 261 speed, and I use his A3-A2 on the first wave, then I turn off his active skills for the second wave, with the only AoE on Wave 2 coming from Helicath's A2.  

All 3 Ally Attackers have their Ally Attack turned off for both waves and they open with it on the Boss wave to get Gnishak's A1 bombs up ASAP, and then Gnishak does his A3 to put up even more bombs, then Helicath A3 for protection from the Boss. Helicath is not strictly necessary, but I could never get this team to 100% winrate without using Block Damage.  

I am not sure where Gnut is coming into the equation?  Are you wanting to try Gnut for Damage in place of a third Ally Attacker?  That might work, but this team works well by capitalizing on Bommal's weakness to bomb damage.

Gnishak should have his A2 turned off on the Boss wave as well. You do not want to turn the bombs to poisons and take space on the debuff bar.

You want all your Ally Attackers to be faster than Bommal. 

Jun 2, 2025, 22:3306/02/25
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WileyMan

My Gnishak has 420 Acc, 6k Atk & 261 speed, and I use his A3-A2 on the first wave, then I turn off his active skills for the second wave, with the only AoE on Wave 2 coming from Helicath's A2.  

All 3 Ally Attackers have their Ally Attack turned off for both waves and they open with it on the Boss wave to get Gnishak's A1 bombs up ASAP, and then Gnishak does his A3 to put up even more bombs, then Helicath A3 for protection from the Boss. Helicath is not strictly necessary, but I could never get this team to 100% winrate without using Block Damage.  

I am not sure where Gnut is coming into the equation?  Are you wanting to try Gnut for Damage in place of a third Ally Attacker?  That might work, but this team works well by capitalizing on Bommal's weakness to bomb damage.

Gnishak should have his A2 turned off on the Boss wave as well. You do not want to turn the bombs to poisons and take space on the debuff bar.

You want all your Ally Attackers to be faster than Bommal. 

Gnut a2 is 25% weaken.  

Most of the other ally attack champs only bring 1 or 2 champs along for the extra attack.  The odds are low that Gnish would be one of them.  

My Gnish is in Regen now.  I dont remember why.  If he doesnt need Regen I can hit all the stats.  


ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jun 3, 2025, 01:0706/03/25
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WileyMan

You do not need Regen on Gnishak.

I cannot remember if bombs are modified by Weaken, but I'd guess no. (@ShortOnSkillz?)

Padraig, Lonathril & Mikage all bring the full team. Longbeard brings 4 allies, which on a team of 5 is the full team.  Kreela & Lanakis are the only Lego Ally Attackers that only bring 3 random.  Catacomb Councilor brings 3 random and Fahrakin sends everyone but himself. 

Do you not have at least 3 of these toons?  I am not sure you are gonna get it done with only two Ally Attackers.  You need to fill the debuff bar with bombs.

Weaken does increase bomb damage yes.

Jun 3, 2025, 01:0806/03/25
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The other option is to just not bother trying to flat-out nuke him. For the longest time I just did 2x Vogoth + Master Butcher + Geomancer + Raglin (though any reviver would do). As long as Master Butcher is fast enough, he gets a turn in between each of the bomb explodes, and just keeps healing everyone back up to full.

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Success.  It was not a one shot but it still worked.  Thanks to everyone for your patience.  It only took us 10 days.   lol

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Tonight I ran head-on into the giant rat and there were no survivors.  The team that had worked before didnt work tonight.  


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