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Apr 12, 2025, 22:3204/12/25
05/09/19
18

Guys, we need to talk about arena.

Fabian+Armanz have removed what little joy there was in the arena to begin with. It's just stunlock city now. And there have just been too many hyper strong arena champs dropped in the game for free since UDK, so you just keep running into the same teams. You need to do something to break it up. Add random conditionals, put a cap on consecutive turns by 1 side...something. It's always been one toxic meta after another, but dropping another free lockout champ after Armanz is psychotic. 

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 13, 2025, 22:3704/13/25
06/24/19
3546

I was / am really hoping Live Arena seasons have some conditions to keep things a little bit fresh at least.  Classic and Tag I don't mind as much but the same champs in LA constantly is a drag.

Apr 14, 2025, 01:2204/14/25
07/01/22
812

Yet my Arbiter is the one who always gets banned. Fabian, Armanz and Arbiter are my core 3 YET Arbiter (who has the smallest soul) is still never allowed to battle...

Apr 18, 2025, 19:4604/18/25
09/07/21
39

I mean ... Fabian is nothing in Live Arena. I don't know where the idea comes from that he's a new Armanz. Without a 28 speed aura he couldn't be no matter what - but the proof is you almost never see him. The toxic Armanz age continues unabated. 

dthorne04Moderator
Apr 18, 2025, 20:2904/18/25
Apr 18, 2025, 20:29(edited)
12/30/20
7496
xonak

I mean ... Fabian is nothing in Live Arena. I don't know where the idea comes from that he's a new Armanz. Without a 28 speed aura he couldn't be no matter what - but the proof is you almost never see him. The toxic Armanz age continues unabated. 

fabian is phenomenal even with the lesser aura and affinity. i think there's a very good argument that fab is better than armanz at higher level arena in this meta, at least situationally. 

Apr 18, 2025, 20:5504/18/25
12/19/19
6954
dthorne04

fabian is phenomenal even with the lesser aura and affinity. i think there's a very good argument that fab is better than armanz at higher level arena in this meta, at least situationally. 

I'm seeing Fabian picked before armanz more often than not in 7000+ 

dthorne04Moderator
Apr 18, 2025, 21:0804/18/25
12/30/20
7496
Trips

I'm seeing Fabian picked before armanz more often than not in 7000+ 

shift towards cage as an S tier blessing for arena, embrys being a better stoneskin counter, wand, mythics, dealing with shu + siphi combos in live, combinations of these have hurt armanz quite a bit 

granted he's still excellent but fabian is just so damn good against so much in the meta, the revive mythics, mari etc.

Apr 18, 2025, 21:2804/18/25
01/31/20
1747

My Armanz gets a lot more playtime now because I am now free to pick him whether I get first or second pick.

I am just under 7k in G4 LA, and my opponents are regularly picking Fabian before Armanz.  

My Fabian is levelled & mastered, but i haven't finished his gear quite yet.

I am seeing Fabian built with even more Acc than typical Armanz builds.  I run quite a few higher-res toons and am struggling to resist Fabian's skills more than Armanzes'.      

Apr 18, 2025, 21:2804/18/25
12/19/19
6954
dthorne04

shift towards cage as an S tier blessing for arena, embrys being a better stoneskin counter, wand, mythics, dealing with shu + siphi combos in live, combinations of these have hurt armanz quite a bit 

granted he's still excellent but fabian is just so damn good against so much in the meta, the revive mythics, mari etc.

I'm debating whether or not to wait for a chase to pull 

dthorne04Moderator
Apr 18, 2025, 21:3604/18/25
Apr 18, 2025, 21:37(edited)
12/30/20
7496
Trips

I'm debating whether or not to wait for a chase to pull 

same problem 😂

I have the books ready too. just missed being able to get him during the last PR CvC and I'm not sure I'm willing to sit through another Siege and new LA season without him.


ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 19, 2025, 01:2904/19/25
06/24/19
3546
dthorne04

same problem 😂

I have the books ready too. just missed being able to get him during the last PR CvC and I'm not sure I'm willing to sit through another Siege and new LA season without him.


Do it Davey.  Do it do it do it.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 19, 2025, 01:3004/19/25
06/24/19
3546
Trips

I'm debating whether or not to wait for a chase to pull 

Gonna pull him so he can sit in the infamous Trips vault unbuilt for months?

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 19, 2025, 01:3004/19/25
06/24/19
3546
WileyMan

My Armanz gets a lot more playtime now because I am now free to pick him whether I get first or second pick.

I am just under 7k in G4 LA, and my opponents are regularly picking Fabian before Armanz.  

My Fabian is levelled & mastered, but i haven't finished his gear quite yet.

I am seeing Fabian built with even more Acc than typical Armanz builds.  I run quite a few higher-res toons and am struggling to resist Fabian's skills more than Armanzes'.      

Armanz bothers me way more still, but I've got a pretty good Lamasu build to resist the lockout.

Apr 19, 2025, 05:0904/19/25
01/31/20
1747
ShortOnSkillz

Armanz bothers me way more still, but I've got a pretty good Lamasu build to resist the lockout.

I almost never see Lamasu in LA.  I am kinda surprised, although I don't use mine in LA either.  

My Lamasu is in 6 pcs Impulse specifically to super-charge Marius in Chimera.

Apr 19, 2025, 05:1104/19/25
01/31/20
1747
Trips

I'm debating whether or not to wait for a chase to pull 

I needed 6 frags, and got 5, so I'll be sitting on 99 for another week.

Not that it matters much, I will sit on him until a PR CVC or a Champ Chase that I need/want to do.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 19, 2025, 18:3304/19/25
06/24/19
3546
WileyMan

I almost never see Lamasu in LA.  I am kinda surprised, although I don't use mine in LA either.  

My Lamasu is in 6 pcs Impulse specifically to super-charge Marius in Chimera.

I use mine alot.  She's frequently an early pick for me as I can use her in a go 1st or go 2nd team.

Apr 20, 2025, 01:0104/20/25
11/29/20
431

Mythicals are the answer to Fabian, but his chance to remove SS is nice.  Marius is the answer to Armanz but his abilty to sheep and strip is also nice.  On one hand you always see the same few champs (because everyone got them) which is tiring, on the other hand they give you some tools to deal with deep rosters you'd otherwise be hosed against.

Apr 21, 2025, 06:1904/21/25
01/11/20
1

Hello everyone,

I'm here to complain about the 3v3 arena.
For some time now, we've been experiencing enormous difficulties, as some players have been smart enough to play either for speed, RNG, or ultra-monstrous champion bases. And I'm not even talking about the rank-based player cap.
It's becoming increasingly difficult to maintain gold without getting lucky or paying to win, and the worst part is that small players who are less likely to invest or who almost never get their hands on certain champions like Ramantu or others will likely never get their hands on them.
I'm asking Plarium to rework this poorly designed arena, or for players to immediately stop annoying everyone. It's extremely annoying to be dropped because you can't stay in gold rank. I want to remind everyone that the prices in the arena store are quite high, so much so that almost no one buys from the gold section except in exceptional circumstances. Thank you for your understanding. Have a nice day.

Apr 24, 2025, 14:0204/24/25
01/15/21
1256
WileyMan

I almost never see Lamasu in LA.  I am kinda surprised, although I don't use mine in LA either.  

My Lamasu is in 6 pcs Impulse specifically to super-charge Marius in Chimera.

Mine is vaulted, perhaps i need to look at her again.

Apr 28, 2025, 02:5204/28/25
07/17/22
2
XxXxXx

Hello everyone,

I'm here to complain about the 3v3 arena.
For some time now, we've been experiencing enormous difficulties, as some players have been smart enough to play either for speed, RNG, or ultra-monstrous champion bases. And I'm not even talking about the rank-based player cap.
It's becoming increasingly difficult to maintain gold without getting lucky or paying to win, and the worst part is that small players who are less likely to invest or who almost never get their hands on certain champions like Ramantu or others will likely never get their hands on them.
I'm asking Plarium to rework this poorly designed arena, or for players to immediately stop annoying everyone. It's extremely annoying to be dropped because you can't stay in gold rank. I want to remind everyone that the prices in the arena store are quite high, so much so that almost no one buys from the gold section except in exceptional circumstances. Thank you for your understanding. Have a nice day.

I have long given up on getting Ramantu. It is not worth the hassle.

Raid is like a (or becoming) in-group game where CCs, mods, long time players etc have cornered the game completely. This is seen especially in 3v3 arena. Champ pool is diluted with very low chance of getting meta champs. etc. etc.

For my part, I have cut off support to the game. Sooner or later they ll revist their strategy or go broke.

Apr 30, 2025, 01:1304/30/25
09/03/24
2

I was wondering if anyone else is getting raped in Live Arena Seasons. I am a FTP and Level 65. I have never received a Legendary from a shard, have only the free legendaries that are for daily sign in. Got paired up against 100 level teams 9/10 times today. I don't even get a turn. I also hate the pick system where only one person can use a champion. How are the matches paired? Got paired against a team in Classic Arena who had 4 Mythicals with a total of +11. WTF! Spent 2.61 Million Silver to rank a 15(4 Star) artifact to a 16. I am just food for the top 1% it appears.