I think the lack of resistance buff champs is partly offset by gear with stoneskin/block debuff/intercept.

You're absolute right there a crazy disparity though.

I often tell clustermates "when it comes to live arena, either 300 acc is more than you need, or 600 isnt enough, there's no inbetween" Same applies to res.

Very much this.  300+ will stop the nukers but rarely the supports.  Personally I won't even build a high RES champ unless I can get over 800.

The other issue with Inc Res is you need to take a turn to get it up which is a huge problem.  We need a champ that places it for 2 turns at the start of a round on a passive. 

egad!

I was helping a clustermate yesterday with an early/mid acct reaching bommal normal 90 for the first time

Looking up some old strategy vids that might work for the champs he had, and remember thinking last time I'd watched them that 750 acc on hard 90 would be impossible for anyone except the biggest whales to resist on any champ except *maybe* mithrala.

Now I could probably build a whole team to do it, but I just use red lady and monkey.

I have a couple dozen epics with 400-500 res now I've built and used just for a single Sin City stage.

I think the over 800 was mostly a reference to Mithrala. Getting that level on anyone else requires some serious rolls on RES, which means you're giving up basically everything else. 

OP is totally on point about the way the game has shifted in terms of the Acc/Res balance.

I have been building go-second arena teams for basically my entire Raid career, and they are definitely becoming less viable in higher-end fights...primarily due to Mythicals, but also due to the increasing number of good toons with an Inc Acc buff, and the general lack of good toons with the Inc Res buff.

However, I am fairly committed to the tactic, and I still run two High Res Tanks as part of my 3v3 Defense. They are not as successful as they used to be, but IMO, it is still better than trying to outspeed the high-end teams.  

I have two Def Nukers (Staltus & Harima) in the 550-600 Res range along with a Pythion, Incarnate, Duchess & Freyja in the 600-700 Res range.

I have a Siphi at 829, a Pythion at 819 and my Mithrala is at 1197 with her Passive. Siphi and the higher Res Pythion are 6*/5* awakened.  If I ever get Duchess to 5*, she will have 829 Res as well.

Youd be surprised with all the power creep how "easy" it is.  800+ Res with 280+ speed in Stoneskin isn't unreasonable to see.

Mmm .. I suppose with the extra roll you get with mythical items, plus the relics, eh?

No... you make it sound like it's a new thing with relics lol ok let me help you

60 Res from Aura (not counting increases from blessings) There's other champions with stronger Arena Res auras

40 base Res for most champions 

96 Res from Banner (plus another 29 possible from Ascension)

Then we'll take a conservative 40 Res on every piece of gear plus neck as a Triple Roll (not quad), so that's 280 res (plus another possible 29 ascension on chest). Some people actually run Chests with primary Res FYI which would be even more.

That brings us to 540s without enchants. Enchants is another 7x 14 (16 best case but I'm lowballing for you) for another 90ish so now we're at 630. 

60 Res from Masteries in the Defense Tree (10+50). We're almost at 700 now and that's not getting into set bonuses. 8p Stoneskin and 1p Protection is another 100, so there ya go. 

That's roughly 800 res without quad rolls or mythical rolls (or quad rolls ON mythics) or relics lol.

Hope this helps you understand what actually exists in game, especially arena. Now factoring relics and mythic quads, we're talking 900+ Res

Thanks for the full breakdown. I did just start playing yesterday, after all.

Or did you miss the part about doing all of that with 280 speed?

You said it took mythicals and relics... when it comes to math, you have to show your work. If I just said "800 isn't super rare" that's not helpful. Also I did it with triple rolls and not-full enchants which means speed can also be rolled/added. Heck look at righteous gear. You can do 4p Righteous, 4p Stoneskin and 1p Protection for 130 res and 20% spd. Now you know what's possible and you know more about the game now too so 

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 EDIT: But here, taking the 800 res example above with the righteous gear and a base speed of 100

Conservatively 15 avg speed per piece (with enchants) on 5 pieces is 75 spd, 30 spd on resist banner enchanted, 105. 57 spd on ascended boots, now we're at 162. Plus 20% of 100 is 20. 182. 182+100=282 spd. That's ignoring Lore of Steel and whatnot, so as you can see the 800 res 280 spd isn't super hard to achieve.

Yeah and blessings is a ton too.

5* Siphi.  Not the build I'm using but just an example of how it's "easy" to achieve.  No relic on her and the banner isn't RES ascended.  Could tweak to probably get 900 RES / 300 Speed.

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